Stock Market

[trottigy]

I think we will get another bounce upward in the market when they cut interest rates.

[computerwiz]

1 minute ago, trottigy said:

I think we will get another bounce upward in the market when they cut interest rates.

 

Small bounce, yes.  But the amount they will cut will probably be too small to be meaningful.  They have to speed things up if they want to avoid a recession...

[Tortuga]

 

The cat was just pretending to be dead...

[computerwiz]

4 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

 

The cat was just pretending to be dead...

 

Patience my friend.  

 

[New World Explorer]

Temporary slip....? 🤣

[Tortuga]

19 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

Temporary slip....? 🤣

Hey! leave my family out of this!

[hatcheckgirl]

I’ve been reading an analysis of the recent worldwide stock market drop a couple of weeks ago. It was titled “Global financial markets are back to near-record highs. Did we learn nothing from this month's mini-crash?”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-20/financial-markets-meltdown-stock-price-economy-interest-rates/104242168?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=safari

“Three potentially lethal storms of doubt collided, convincing many that a new global financial crisis was upon us.

In short order, they were that the world was on the cusp of recession, stocks were horribly overvalued and, once again, an obscure trading strategy had suddenly come unstuck, threatening to unravel the cord binding currency, money and stock markets.

But it ended as quickly as it started and, in the nanosecond attention span of finance, now is but a distant memory.”

 

I know that many financially savvy brothers didn’t think much of this in the bigger scheme of investments over time. There is always going to be the ups and downs. But I can see it is tied in with “security” of the cry of “peace and security”. These market convulsions happen because of the instability and speculative nature of investments, and of course greed leading to panic. We will see the commercial system come to lament the fall of BtG - Rev 18:11-19. And even though the commercial system will still be in some way still operating, it will be limping because of this fall. They won’t recover.

 

The analysis continues: “Globally, stock markets are again sitting just below record highs. They are priced for a magical elimination of inflation, continued strong economic growth, and an outbreak of global diplomacy and world peace.

Not much margin for error.”

 

Even economic analysts don’t hold much hope, as of course the world is further from peace than ever before. So, in my mind anyway, how the stock market reacts is definitely linked to how peace and security is perceived. 

 

Edited August 19, 2024 by hatcheckgirl

[Tortuga]

Stocks are skipping the ‘Santa Claus rally’ again this year. That doesn’t bode well for January.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/stocks-are-skipping-the-santa-claus-rally-again-this-year-that-doesn-t-bode-well-for-january/ar-AA1wIpsj?ocid=socialshare&cvid=36c2ae94604f476188db34d818bfe02c&ei=16

[computerwiz]

3 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

Stocks are skipping the ‘Santa Claus rally’ again this year. That doesn’t bode well for January.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/stocks-are-skipping-the-santa-claus-rally-again-this-year-that-doesn-t-bode-well-for-january/ar-AA1wIpsj?ocid=socialshare&cvid=36c2ae94604f476188db34d818bfe02c&ei=16

 

Yes if you know how to read charts, you would know this was meant to happen. And January will be bad until Trump takes office. Maybe even a little afterwards too. 

 

Saw it coming, but it's not bad enough to bail out and be concerned. 

[New World Explorer]

Superannuation investment in Australia finished on +11.5% for violate 2024. (Still not bad) 

[Tortuga]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-s-tariffs-send-stock-market-falling/ar-AA1ykMey?ocid=socialshare&cvid=b295655e73a444ddd0206cb43f2c9b1d&ei=111

 

The Trump tariffs are causing the stock market to drop.

Apparently, Trump is trying to fix a broken economic system and expects some pain. The stock market will drop, prices will go up and everyone will be angry.

And apparently the theory is that it's like a doctor setting a broken bone, there is some initial pain but then everything heals. It seems time will tell if he is setting the bone or breaking it.

 

[computerwiz]

Expect everything to be poopy doopy until around August.

[Cool.As.Ice]

2 hours ago, Tortuga said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-s-tariffs-send-stock-market-falling/ar-AA1ykMey?ocid=socialshare&cvid=b295655e73a444ddd0206cb43f2c9b1d&ei=111

 

The Trump tariffs are causing the stock market to drop.

Apparently, Trump is trying to fix a broken economic system and expects some pain. The stock market will drop, prices will go up and everyone will be angry.

And apparently the theory is that it's like a doctor setting a broken bone, there is some initial pain but then everything heals. It seems time will tell if he is setting the bone or breaking it.

 

Funny. A few years ago, during the 35-day gov’t shutdown, a relative of his told struggling, unpaid, federal workers on furlough: “It’s just a little bit of pain”.

 

Meanwhile, these people were on the brink; unable to keep up with bills, and not knowing when their situation would end.

 

These tariffs, however, threaten to do far more damage to millions more people. It could even be a repeat of the Great Recession, if allowed to continue.

 

The situation however, is very fluid. Trump recently held back on Mexico for 30 days while they send troops to their northern border. Canada is still determined not to back down, as is China. 
 

Seems to me that the markets are going to take a roller coaster ride.

Edited February 3 by Cool.As.Ice

[bobby]

well, the bible does say food would cost more 

[Witness1970]

I was in the stock market several years ago.  I got out of it and, since I am retired, I don't plan to get back into it.  I used to be very aggressive and didn't mind investing in risky stocks that had the possibility of large gains.  Now I prefer to remain conservative in my investments.  An index fund is plenty for me.  I certainly don't worry enough about money to have sleepless nights worrying.  With my money mostly in safe investments (guaranteed small income), those index funds were enough of a drag to bring my 401K down from Thursday, January 30 to Monday, February 3 by a noticeable amount.

[Tortuga]

Trumps Tariffs are affecting the stock markets. My YTD is 1.3% as of 3/4/25. It hasn't been a good year for for the stock market.

[computerwiz]

6 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

Trumps Tariffs are affecting the stock markets. My YTD is 1.3% as of 3/4/25. It hasn't been a good year for for the stock market.

 

It amazing how you can see something terrible was coming on the monthly charts.  You just don't know what it is until we get there...

 

Yellow lines are my predicted path for the stock market.

 

 

 

[Dages]

13 hours ago, computerwiz said:

 

It amazing how you can see something terrible was coming on the monthly charts.  You just don't know what it is until we get there...

 

Yellow lines are my predicted path for the stock market.

 

 

 

Yeah, that's going down for a while, the MACD is clear.
I'm checking the EURJPY and USDJPY regularly as it's directly related to my income and I'm not happy with the USD  Good thing the EUR is going back up

[Witness1970]

https://jwtalk.net/topic/54988-all-things-personal-finance/?do=findComment&comment=1028980

I said that 2 months ago.  Too bad I did not take my own advice.  Actually, I have about 26% of my retirement saving in the stock market and none of my regular savings in the stock market.  I should have gotten all out of the stock market weeks ago.  Settling in for long term losses in the stock market.

[Tortuga]

On 3/11/2025 at 4:29 AM, Witness1970 said:

https://jwtalk.net/topic/54988-all-things-personal-finance/?do=findComment&comment=1028980

I said that 2 months ago.  Too bad I did not take my own advice.  Actually, I have about 26% of my retirement saving in the stock market and none of my regular savings in the stock market.  I should have gotten all out of the stock market weeks ago.  Settling in for long term losses in the stock market.

Some investment advisors say that this is a good time to invest, however most of the advice that I have read over the years is to make small, regular investments and leave it alone. The market will average a gain over time. Small, regular investments over time seem to do better than an "all in" or "all out" strategy.

[computerwiz]

1 hour ago, Tortuga said:

Small, regular investments over time seem to do better than an "all in" or "all out" strategy.

 

[Witness1970]

2 hours ago, Tortuga said:

Some investment advisors say that this is a good time to invest, however most of the advice that I have read over the years is to make small, regular investments and leave it alone. The market will average a gain over time. Small, regular investments over time seem to do better than an "all in" or "all out" strategy.

I agree that buying in when the price is low is the best strategy.  To do that I should have gotten out in early January and gotten back in about now. I got out of the stock market early in the COVID pandemic.  I got back in after COVID became endemic.

 

I don't make contributions to my retirement account anymore.  I haven't since I retired.  The 26% I said that I have in the stock market is determined by professionals.  It is called an income fund because it is supposed to be fairly safe investments. 

 

Making small regular investments didn't work very well around 1939.  We may see a similar scenario in the future!!

[pnutts]

Shall see what the "War" against Houthis does to stock market.

Need to improve economy &/or leader's approval rate - start a war-  take out an enemy, real or perceived.

How many currently ongoing wars started that way?

[bobby]

Many years ago, i got into buying stock without a broker

I started out with Exxon Mobil and got their stock right for the company 

[Witness1970]

On 3/15/2025 at 11:30 AM, Tortuga said:

Some investment advisors say that this is a good time to invest, however most of the advice that I have read over the years is to make small, regular investments and leave it alone. The market will average a gain over time. Small, regular investments over time seem to do better than an "all in" or "all out" strategy.

I have done well by using the "all in" or "all out" strategy.  It saved me from large losses during the pandemic because I got out early on and got back in when COVID reached the endemic stage.  The other thing is that my wife gets absolutely ballistic when she finds out I am in the stock market when it is dropping.  I don't mind losing a small amount of money to keep peace at home.

 

I actually decided to get out of the stock market in mid-March, all of my retirement savings in my 401K is now in the "Growth" fund.  It is just an income fund and is actually making decent money.  I will probably stay there at least through April.  I will make decisions on changing it on a day-by-day basis.

 

Whatever I do will be for probably at least a month or even longer if things go well.  Right now, I am a bear.  No bull.

Edited March 27 by Witness1970