Big wildfires in LA area

[Julsey]

12 hours ago, Witness1970 said:

So, they moved all the way across country.  Away from the wildfire area to the Hurricane prone area.  Global warming is not only making the fires worse but also making hurricanes worse.

The Paradise fire was not caused by global warming but by PG&E (Pacific Gas & Electric) failing to clear vegetation around the power lines. How do I know this? The niece of one of my best friends (who is a sister) warned both the CEO and the State about this problem. No one listened to her. That CEO? He went on to head up Centerpoint Energy here in Houston. You know, the company that took months to get the power back on this last summer? You can’t blame everything on “global warming.” More like greed and incompetence.

Edited Sunday at 11:10 PM by Julsey

[Doug]

15 hours ago, SteveAus said:

 

Just before the Eaton fire, surveillance cameras and witnesses spotted arcing powerlines, according to this report

 

Steve, if you can find news reports about a company called Whisker Labs, maybe post it?   Whisker labs monitors the grid and is aware of every fault that happens.  A fault can be from a tree touching the power line, or the power lines swinging in the wind and smacking each other.

The spokesman from Whisker, Bob Marshall,  said there was a sharp increase in faults right before the Eaton, Palisades and Hurst fires.

[Doug]

20 hours ago, Doug said:

 

 Hopefully, I'll see them at the meeting tomorrow.

I went to look at the mobile home.  The tree broke at about 50 feet up. Even up there, it was about 20 inches across.  I can't believe that massive tree came crashing down onto three mobile homes at around 9:45 pm and no one was injured!  A dog was killed, poor thing.

 

Grandma and grandson were at the meeting.  Also, I learned that the CO got permission from the branch to make a shepherding call on the family even though he's serving another congregation this week.  Wasn't that loving?

[SteveAus]

47 minutes ago, Doug said:

 

Steve, if you can find news reports about a company called Whisker Labs, maybe post it?   Whisker labs monitors the grid and is aware of every fault that happens.  A fault can be from a tree touching the power line, or the power lines swinging in the wind and smacking each other.

The spokesman from Whisker, Bob Marshall,  said there was a sharp increase in faults right before the Eaton, Palisades and Hurst fires.

 

"A report identified a surge in power grid faults preceding three Los Angeles wildfires. Using 14,000 sensors, it detected 63 faults near the Palisades fire, 317 near Eaton, and 230 near Hurst—far exceeding the daily average of 2–3 faults. Notably, 18 faults occurred during the hour the Palisades fire ignited."

[Qapla]

Still, the question is, did the power faults cause the fire or did the fire cause the power faults - I would not be too quick to start pointing fingers

 

[Lewis]

16 hours ago, Witness1970 said:

So, they moved all the way across country.  Away from the wildfire area to the Hurricane prone area.  Global warming is not only making the fires worse but also making hurricanes worse.

 

The dry season this winter season coupled with hurricane like strong winds were definitely a contributing factor to these fires spreading as big as they did. Power lines and/or Arson were probably the source of ignition most definetly.

 

I agree Global Warming is causing the climate to change and fueling these disasters for the worst.

[SteveAus]

1 hour ago, Qapla said:

Still, the question is, did the power faults cause the fire or did the fire cause the power faults - I would not be too quick to start pointing fingers

 

 

"surge in power grid faults preceding three Los Angeles wildfires" I read that as the fires followed the faults.

Can we know 100%? No, but on probabilities of "63 faults near the Palisades fire, 317 near Eaton, and 230 near Hurst—far exceeding the daily average of 2–3 faults" I'd lay my money on the faults causing the fires.

 

Edited Monday at 03:38 AM by SteveAus

[Qapla]

Having experienced wildfires personally that we discovered before they were known to authorities - I don't assume anything as to their origin.

[Amygdala]

7 hours ago, Julsey said:

The Paradise fire was not caused by global warming but by PG&E (Pacific Gas & Electric) failing to clear vegetation around the power lines. How do I know this? The niece of one of my best friends (who is a sister) warned both the CEO and the State about this problem. No one listened to her. That CEO? He went on to head up Centerpoint Energy here in Houston. You know, the company that took months to get the power back on this last summer? You can’t blame everything on “global warming.” More like greed and incompetence.

 

They were held accountable for the last fires in 2021, which held them liable for $$++. But would they have not done their due diligence since then?

 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/26/us/pacific-gas-electric-settlement-dixie-fire-california/index.html

 

Are these new fires connected to, or caused by the same incident around Palisades?

 

News claims which are saying California is becoming unliveable. I have to check with my distant relatives living around the State.

[Jimi-L]

It’s my understanding the fire is not yet under control.  I assume there are several congregations in or near the area.
I hope all brothers and sisters are okay. ❤️ Does anyone have any recent information?

 

 

[Witness1970]

18 hours ago, Tortuga said:

I wonder if solar panels made things worse during the fire. It seems it would be easier for sparks to get blown under the panels and ignite the roof. It seems it would be harder for the firemen to get water on and under the panels. I have read that it is more difficult for firemen to use normal firefighting techniques and vent the roof of a burning house because of solar panels. I wonder about the health hazards when the panels burn. Typically, a fireman would wear SCBA but I saw a lot of newscasts, and no one was wearing SCBA.

Interesting thought!  I really don't want solar panels on my roof.  I thought about it and decided not to get them.  But there is a large field of solar panels a couple of miles from my house.  They provide enough energy to keep the power company from having to build new generating facilities.

[Witness1970]

21 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

 

California has been burning for hundreds of years. It's getting worse because of mismanagement. "Fighting climate change" would be incomprehensibly more expensive than the solutions they are already aware of.

 

An article from 2020 complaining about the same things:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/decades-mismanagement-led-choked-forests-now-it-s-time-clear-n1243599

https://www.globalgiving.org/learn/cost-to-end-climate-change/

Estimates of how much money it would take to end global climate change range between $300 billion and $50 trillion over the next two decades. 

Why such a massive range? Because experts disagree about how to stop climate change. While some argue that we need to restore ancient agricultural practices, others believe the answer lies in green technology.

 

This comes out to an average of 15 billion to 2.5 trillion per year to fight climate change. 

https://www.inc.com/reuters/hurricane-helene-damages-range-between-95-110-billion.html 

That is the cost of ONE hurricane.  Stopping climate change would help out around the world.  Preventing droughts and wild weather events.  And how do you calculate the cost of all the deaths around the world?

 

Ending climate change would benefit people worldwide, including California.  Of course, better land management in several areas would be a help.

 

Satan wants to rule the earth.  If he can't rule it, he would be fine with ruining it for human, or any other, habitation.  The nations will apparently go along with that.  They are going along now.  Even those who talk about stopping climate change do very little tp effect real change.

[Witness1970]

11 hours ago, Julsey said:

The Paradise fire was not caused by global warming but by PG&E (Pacific Gas & Electric) failing to clear vegetation around the power lines. How do I know this? The niece of one of my best friends (who is a sister) warned both the CEO and the State about this problem. No one listened to her. That CEO? He went on to head up Centerpoint Energy here in Houston. You know, the company that took months to get the power back on this last summer? You can’t blame everything on “global warming.” More like greed and incompetence.

Greed and incompetence do count.  It is greed and incompetence that also causes climate change.  It all comes down to this system being led by Satan.  We need the new system.

[Tia]

4 hours ago, Witness1970 said:

16 hours ago, Julsey said:

The Paradise fire was not caused by global warming but by PG&E (Pacific Gas & Electric) failing to clear vegetation around the power lines. How do I know this? The niece of one of my best friends (who is a sister) warned both the CEO and the State about this problem. No one listened to her. That CEO? He went on to head up Centerpoint Energy here in Houston. You know, the company that took months to get the power back on this last summer? You can’t blame everything on “global warming.” More like greed and incompetence.

Yes - this was discussed in detail on the news in our area - I have a nephew that works for PG &E in California - he transferred from PSEG in New Jersey- there is a lot circulating!  I have heard various reporting that halting the cutting of underbush in those areas - and of course drought like conditions - lack of rainfall, winds, - I pray for ALL in the affected area(s) I know in my nephew area who is in the truth - power was cut and quite a few friends lost their homes.  So, I guess we will see when our Official report comes out just how many are affected - I know that I will be increasing my donations this month!!!

[exactor]

It was shared with me yesterday. 

[Tortuga]

Not long after midnight on the first day of the new year, firefighters were called to a fire in the Santa Monica Mountains near the southern California community of Pacific Palisades. Believed to have been sparked by New Year's Eve fireworks, it spread slowly amid relatively light 15mph winds, and was contained in less than five hours with no injuries or damage to property. Mop-up operations continued to ensure no flare-ups took place, but locals felt buoyed by the quick response from firefighters, and all was apparently quiet for the next few days. Then, on the morning of Jan. 7, flames erupted in the same area—and this time, devastation ensued, leading to the Palisades Fire, one of a series of fires in Los Angeles that have so far claimed 24 lives and burned more than 12,000 homes.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/palisades-fire-may-have-started-at-site-of-new-year-s-blaze/ar-BB1rlCfY?ocid=socialshare&cvid=3b3d7754f81847418c8f78cfee3eb675&ei=18

[chuck83]

On 1/11/2025 at 5:29 PM, hatcheckgirl said:

Are you ok where you are bro Mike?

 

Thank you! Yes. I'm 20+ miles from each fire. My wife's employer's headquarters is near Altadena and they had to evacuate last week. Thankfully she works from home. I used to work in the same area and a lot of brothers and sisters and ex-coworkers live in Pasadena, Altadena, Sierra Madre, etc. and a lot are affected. Some with just power loss to full on loss. 

Edited Monday at 03:57 PM by chuck83

[trottigy]

9 hours ago, Amygdala said:

 

News claims which are saying California is becoming unliveable. I have to check with my distant relatives living around the State.

 

California is a pretty big state. To put it in perspective - can you imagine the people in Pennsylvania saying they need to move because of the hurricanes in Georgia? Or no one should live in Maryland or West Virginia anymore as those hurricanes in Georgia and South Carolina are too scary? And yet – California would stretch from Georgia to Pennsylvania.

 

We'll just keep praying for those affected - this time in Southern California.

Edited Monday at 04:25 PM by trottigy

[Miss Bea]

6 hours ago, Witness1970 said:

Interesting thought!  I really don't want solar panels on my roof.  I thought about it and decided not to get them.  But there is a large field of solar panels a couple of miles from my house.  They provide enough energy to keep the power company from having to build new generating facilities.

We have solar panels on a portion of our home. The roof is metal. It was a long process, but PG@E is buying excess power the panels produces. 
Aside from the solar panels, we are on an Indian reservation. We live rural. The tribe has been burning up and down our road, and mostly around our house. (A burn is scheduled when the weather is fit. For what has not been burned, below the house) 

This is almost trite news, but it is so good to drive down the road, and see no brush, etc. just the strong trees that survived the burn. 
I’m wondering if we will be doing this type of burn in the new system. 

[Tortuga]

18 hours ago, Julsey said:

You can’t blame everything on “global warming.” More like greed and incompetence.

I think that an exhaustive Root Cause Analysis would show that everyone is to blame. Industry and the consumers that drive industry have contributed to climate change. Population growth has contributed to climate change. There may be ebbs and flows in the blame game, but everyone can be blamed for what happened. It is apparently human nature to individually absolve ourselves by blaming someone else, but ultimately, we should point the finger toward Satan and our own imperfect nature.

[Amygdala]

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California is a pretty big state. 

 

Yes I am just curious how they are doing, and hopefully not affected. I actually don’t know exactly how close they are, since they are distant relatives, but is a good reminder for me to take interest in them, being they are not in the Truth. 

Edited Monday at 05:51 PM by Amygdala

[Tortuga]

12 minutes ago, Amygdala said:

 

Yes I am just curious how they are doing, and hopefully not affected. I actually don’t know exactly how close they are, since they are distant relatives, but is a good reminder for me to take interest in them, being they are not in the Truth. 

Do you know what town they live in or are close to?

[Amygdala]

Actually no. 😇 They keep in touch with my siblings, and they and their families often visit them down there as I see from their Facebook photos. But I am out of touch since they are all worldly. But we have talked in the past, and one even used to study with Witnesses. I just know that a relative owns a seniors home and has a chain of homes throughout CA.

[chuck83]

Not only looting but price gouging rent! This place below was $15k/mon and is now essentially double. Probably took off $1k for some tax loophole.

 

https://laist.com/news/housing-homelessness/los-angeles-palisades-fire-housing-rent-price-gouging-law-california-zillow-listing 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/los-angeles-wildfire-evacuees-price-gouging-predatory-businesses-landlords/

 

For context I pay $2300 for 920 sqft 2bd 2ba and live about 40 miles away from this madness. So what I have there is an easy $3.5k to $4k and probably now $5k to $8k. Sad sad sad.

[BLEmom]

With the way rent prices keep going up, half the country is going to be living in their cars soon…