The odyssey

[halfspanishlee]

Hi all just wondering if anyone has read the odyssey by homer or seen the movie?

[Qapla]

I have never read the book - I also did not know Homer made a movie ...

[Jim Jam]

I watched this cartoon as a kid if that counts

 

 

[Brother NM]

13 hours ago, halfspanishlee said:

Hi all just wondering if anyone has read the odyssey by homer or seen the movie?

I studied The Odyssey as one of my A levels in school as part of Classical Civilisation. That and the Aeneid and the Iliad. 

[Brother NM]

13 hours ago, halfspanishlee said:

Hi all just wondering if anyone has read the odyssey by homer or seen the movie?

It’s rated R for violence and profanity so I won’t be watching the movie. 

[Jim Jam]

I won't be watching it because it's woke

[Ludwika]

I read some of the reviews and they said it's full of violence, which is to be expected, so no, I won't be watching it.

[Hope]

1 hour ago, Jim Jam said:

I won't be watching it because it's woke

 

I struggle to understand what this means.. 🤔

 

What do you think "woke" means?

Edited 20 hours ago by Hope

[LeolaRootStew]

4 hours ago, Hope said:

 

I struggle to understand what this means.. 🤔

 

What do you think "woke" means?

 

👍 Positive use

• “Woke” = aware, compassionate, informed
• Used by people who value social awareness

👎 Negative/critical use

• “Woke” = overly political, performative, or extreme
• Used by critics who feel it goes too far or is forced

[Hope]

I wonder if our considering something "woke" or not edges towards non-neutrality? 🤔

[dljbsp]

A Christian should be on neither side of the woke argument. They need to be neutral. Woke is either social or political. We take no side. John 17:16

 

[Dages]

1 hour ago, Hope said:

I wonder if our considering something "woke" or not edges towards non-neutrality? 🤔

Yeah, so a production that is "woke" = has a social/political agenda, so given our neutrality, we would not feed/entertain with such content

[Hope]

3 minutes ago, Dages said:

Yeah, so a production that is "woke" = has a social/political agenda, so given our neutrality, we would not feed/entertain with such content

 

🤔  It never occurred to me that this film *was* "woke" until @Jim Jam mentioned it.

 

Perhaps making such a determination says more about our own personal thought process than the production? For me "woke" is not a descriptor for anything unless someone else brings it up. And even then, I probably wouldn't agree or be concerned. It's a non-issue for me 🤷🏽‍♀️ 

 

I don't care what racial background any actor is- that usually has little bearing on the character they are playing. My only concern is if they are good in the role. That's why it's called, "acting".

[Beggar for the Spirit]

Here are some other factors we could consider as Christians in evaluating whether or not Jehovah would approve of our entertainment choice of reading or watching the "The Odyssey" 

 

The "divinities" or gods in the the Odyssey

(Info from Encyclopedia Britannica and Stanford University)

 

The “divine” means the Greek immortals (gods/goddesses and other supernatural divine figures) who intervene in human lives—sometimes helping Odysseus, sometimes blocking him, and sometimes demanding punishment/revenge after wrongs.

• Athena — protector/strategic counselor; supports Odysseus and Telemachus
• Poseidon — sea god; Odysseus’s main divine antagonist (especially because of Polyphemus) 
• Zeus — chief god; supreme authority; intervenes to allow Odysseus’s release and later sends storms after appeals 
• Hermes — messenger/facilitator; helps in crisis situations (e.g., mediating for Odysseus’s release) 
• Helios — sun god; avenges his cattle being harmed by sending catastrophic consequences (via Zeus’s storm) 
• Ino (Leucothea) — a sea goddess/supernatural helper who rescues Odysseus at sea

Other immortals/supernatural powers (important in the plot)

• Aeolus — “master of the winds” (a supernatural power who provides winds that are mishandled) 
• Circe — enchantress/different divine-sorceress power who transforms men (clearly a supernatural “immortal-level” figure in the story) 
• Calypso — nymph who keeps Odysseus captive for years; release is secured through divine intervention 

Edited 13 hours ago by Beggar for the Spirit

[Michał]

I read Oddesey (or rather a good summary) because it was one of the set books in primary school. I don’t regret it because I understand better Greek/Roman culture. However I wouldn’t watch a movie (woke or not woke) because I don’t want to feel emotional attachment to the (godless) stories.