Is time travel possible?

[Tortuga]

Just now, Ostria said:

Just for snizzles and giggles, if you could change something in the past what would you change?

Nothing except I would try to avoid all of the stupid things I have done.

[Ostria]

6 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

Nothing except I would try to avoid all of the stupid things I have done.

understandable, luckily for me the internet is the source for most of my stupidity so i got a 2 for 1 with mine lol 

[Dages]

10 hours ago, dljbsp said:

As others noted, Jesus “died once for all time” (Heb. 10:10), which makes rewinding time—and that moment—unthinkable. Jehovah, being “from time indefinite to time indefinite” (Ps. 90:2), isn’t bound by time, so to him, a prophecy isn’t a guess—it’s a declaration of what will be.

That should be unthinkable even for Jehovah.

Also, the Bible has many announcements by God that did not obtain. Jehovah announces some may and might too. Not all prophecies are absolute and unilateral.

[New World Explorer]

I think “time travel” is greatly subjective and even misrepresented terminology. 
Even Jehovah if he sees future in some sense it does not necessarily translates directly to “time travel” but rather ability to see it. Jehovah does move himself within timestamp as residing there and going back or forward. 
ABILITY is not a time travel in itself. 
I don’t think time travel is possible in a sense we understand it and how it is portrayed in the movies 🎥. 

[Witness1970]

23 hours ago, Dages said:

That's "duration". Not "time". If one want to be philosophical/metaphysical.  

 

Technically, "moving" the whole universe would still be going towards the future. Because the moment "previous" to the "move" would be in the past of such "move"  
 

Our way of measuring time is the movement of objects.  I wasn't trying to be philosophical.  I know what you are saying about the movement of galaxies, stars, planets, etc.  My point was going back in time would require everything being back in the same place as it was previously.  Actually, those exact positions that occurred than are not the same now and may never occur exactly that way again.  My command of the language is insufficient to explain some of these things.  And I certainly have no desire at present to get into a discussion of the Quantum Realm.

[Katty]

If time travel to the past were possible, it seems like there would be at least one Bible account of miraculous time travel to the past. I think Jehovah set up the universe with a few hard and fast rules and no time travel is one of them. The fact that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light is likely a clue to that. (of course nothing with mass is even likely capable of travelling light speed either). 
I'm eagerly awaiting any confirmation as to whether tachyon's actually exist. Of course, the implication that a particle with imaginary mass can time travel still would not likely apply to anything with mass. 

30 minutes ago, Witness1970 said:

Our way of measuring time is the movement of objects.  I wasn't trying to be philosophical.  I know what you are saying about the movement of galaxies, stars, planets, etc.  My point was going back in time would require everything being back in the same place as it was previously.  Actually, those exact positions that occurred than are not the same now and may never occur exactly that way again.  My command of the language is insufficient to explain some of these things.  And I certainly have no desire at present to get into a discussion of the Quantum Realm.

Yes. I believe it's what physicists refer to as entropy. I'll have to check with my husband to be sure.

[Vitor Henrique]

could i be marty mcfly? i love hover boards 😅

[FionaM]

I have not read the thread so am unaware of the comments. (Will get to read them soon).
But I would say no, and least not back in time. The reason I say that is Jesus died for us "one time". Not over and over again

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[Dages]

2 hours ago, Vitor Henrique said:

could i be marty mcfly? i love hover boards 😅

Maybe we will invent them in Paradise  

[Witness1970]

22 hours ago, Katty said:

Yes. I believe it's what physicists refer to as entropy. I'll have to check with my husband to be sure.

I am certainly no expert, but my limited understanding of entropy is different than the movement of bodies through space.  Entropy is a subject I have not yet figured out how to fit into my theories. I am working on that. (Very slowly)

[ucastrobr]

"Jehovah God dwells, not everywhere, but only in heaven. Of course, "the heavens" mentioned in these passages does not refer to the atmosphere surrounding the earth nor to the vast expanse of outer space. The physical heavens cannot contain the Creator of the universe. (1 Kings 8:27) The Bible tells us that "God is a Spirit." (John 4:24) He resides in the spiritual heavens, a realm independent of the physical universe.—1 Corinthians 15:44."

source: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2011572

 

Jehovah and angels dwell in other dimensions different from our 3D dimension. The physics is different than in our dimension.
The biblical event of an angel killing 185,000 Assyrian soldiers is described in 2 Kings 19:35 and Isaiah 37:36. We don't know, but maybe the angel killed everyone in a minute. 

About Joshua stopping the sun. Jehovah doesn't need to stop time for it; maybe he just used refraction.
"God could, as Creator, if he wished, stop the motions of the whole solar system. Or, he could stop the motion of only the earth so that sun and moon appeared to remain in the same position as viewed from the earth. On the other hand, it is possible that the sun, moon and earth all continued on in their regular movements, but that the light from sun and moon ceaselessly shone by some form of refraction that we do not now understand. "
source: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/pc/r1/lp-e/1200020006/216/2

 

 

 

[Gimestr]

Time travel is real, but not in the way science fiction makes it out to be. It’s based on physics — specifically, Einstein’s theory of relativity. The faster you move, the slower time passes for you compared to someone who’s standing still. So technically, traveling into the future is possible.

Traveling back in time, however, isn’t. According to physics, it would require infinite energy, which makes it impossible for humans or even demons to accomplish. Jehovah, being almighty, wouldn’t be limited by that — but we certainly are.

In fact, we experience a tiny form of time travel every day without realizing it. Our phones rely on satellites orbiting Earth at around 8,700 mph, and those satellites experience time dilation — their clocks tick about 38 microseconds faster per day than clocks on Earth. Because of this, programmers have to correct for the time difference on both the satellites and our phones. It may not sound impressive, but it’s real, measurable time travel.

If humans could ever travel at or near the speed of light, we’d experience extreme time dilation — effectively jumping into the future. But again, going backward in time would require energy beyond anything we can ever generate. So while forward time travel is possible and already happening in small ways, backward time travel is out of reach — at least for us.

[Tortuga]

15 minutes ago, Gimestr said:

So while forward time travel is possible and already happening in small ways, backward time travel is out of reach — at least for us.

I read a sci-fi story where someone traveled backwards in time, then discovered they couldn't travel back to their original timeline because it was now their future. They were stuck in the past which was their present. That would be weird.

[LeolaRootStew]

On 5/12/2025 at 9:52 AM, dljbsp said:

I was thinking more about how Jehovah lives outside of time.

 

I don't think Jehovah necessarily lives "outside" of time, I think He and other spirit beings are not subject to the effects of time, such as decay. It's like how we do well breathing air, but a fish would die. We are both "inside" the air, but suffer have different effects. Similarly, spirits and humans are both "inside" time, but with different effects. 

 

On 5/12/2025 at 6:10 AM, Andrey said:

According to the Bible, Jehovah has the ability to reproduce from memory anything he wants. Our lives before Jehovah are like a reel of film that can be unwound and viewed. Jehovah can even reproduce it so that we can see the entire history of both ours and others. If humans can do this with photographs and videos, it will not be difficult for Jehovah.

 

This is how I view "time travel" with Jehovah. Since the passage of time is only measured by the decay of the physical universe, Jehovah can "pause" time by freezing the physical universe in place and "rewind" time by reversing the decay process. In that instance, I don't think it would be time travel, but time reversal. We wouldn't have to worry about parallel universes or paradoxes with this method.

 

I don't think Jehovah would use this time reversal to further His purpose only because He is wise enough to get it right the first time. And I don't think the demons could do it because they aren't powerful enough to reverse the whole universe. They would need to 1) have a perfect memory of all objects 2) the ability to reverse the decay of all objects 3) the ability to wipe the memories of all beings or else they would be technically reversing through time with the demons.

 

I need some more time to think on it, but I think if Jehovah used time reversal after A&E sinned so that He could somehow prepare them for Satan, it would violate His principles somehow. Maybe it's about respecting free will, I don't know, but it seems instinctually wrong. If He ever needed to reverse something that was so important it would prevent His will from being accomplished, why didn't He see it ahead of time? Alternatively, couldn't He just pivot and find another solution down the road to compensate?

[Cool.As.Ice]

On 5/12/2025 at 10:41 AM, Ostria said:

 

Just for snizzles and giggles, if you could change something in the past what would you change?

Back to the Garden of Eden.

 

I would’ve yelled at Eve. “NOOOO! STOP!”

 

If I was too late to catch her, I would’ve done a flying rugby tackle on Adam when Eve gave him the fruit. History would’ve been completely different right there.

[ucastrobr]

1 hour ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

Back to the Garden of Eden.

 

I would’ve yelled at Eve. “NOOOO! STOP!”

 

If I was too late to catch her, I would’ve done a flying rugby tackle on Adam when Eve gave him the fruit. History would’ve been completely different right there.

Consistency Paradox/Grandfather Paradox:

This occurs when a time traveler's actions in the past directly contradict the events that led to their own existence, creating a logical contradiction. For example, if someone travels back in time and kills their own grandfather, they would never have been born in the first place, thus making their own time travel impossible. 

You cannot be born if you travel time since your existence depends on Eve having sex at precisely timed intervals and bearing offspring following. 

 If Eve hadn't sinned and for example had children an hour later, the real history, the whole history would change, and no one would be here.

[Dages]

8 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

This is how I view "time travel" with Jehovah. Since the passage of time is only measured by the decay of the physical universe, Jehovah can "pause" time by freezing the physical universe in place and "rewind" time by reversing the decay process. In that instance, I don't think it would be time travel, but time reversal. We wouldn't have to worry about parallel universes or paradoxes with this method.

 

I don't think Jehovah would use this time reversal to further His purpose only because He is wise enough to get it right the first time. And I don't think the demons could do it because they aren't powerful enough to reverse the whole universe. They would need to 1) have a perfect memory of all objects 2) the ability to reverse the decay of all objects 3) the ability to wipe the memories of all beings or else they would be technically reversing through time with the demons.

 

I need some more time to think on it, but I think if Jehovah used time reversal after A&E sinned so that He could somehow prepare them for Satan, it would violate His principles somehow. Maybe it's about respecting free will, I don't know, but it seems instinctually wrong. If He ever needed to reverse something that was so important it would prevent His will from being accomplished, why didn't He see it ahead of time? Alternatively, couldn't He just pivot and find another solution down the road to compensate?

But the rewinding would not be "past", as it's occuring AFTER. We have to take Time as a metaphysical entity, to stay logical
Because, even if Jehovah "rewinded" to be back "before" the creation of Jesus moment, the creation would already have happened before the rewinding. God isn't able to "undo" the creation. It's part of the story forever.

 

[Cool.As.Ice]

5 hours ago, ucastrobr said:

If Eve hadn't sinned and for example had children an hour later, the real history, the whole history would change, and no one would be here.

What if we all were here, just all faithful and perfect? If Eve hadn’t sinned, no one would have died, and we would enjoying Paradise right now. The question is if all of us would be naked…🤔

 

5 hours ago, Dages said:

But the rewinding would not be "past", as it's occuring AFTER. We have to take Time as a metaphysical entity, to stay logical
Because, even if Jehovah "rewinded" to be back "before" the creation of Jesus moment, the creation would already have happened before the rewinding. God isn't able to "undo" the creation. It's part of the story forever.

 

Nothing is impossible with a God who can destroy an immortal creature.

[Dages]

31 minutes ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

5 hours ago, Dages said:

 

Nothing is impossible with a God who can destroy an immortal creature.

God can't make a married bachelor though... 

[Andrey]

I'm about to write, something, but I want to ask you not to attack me with math, chemistry and physics formulas. We're just going to try to visualize this as a real action that, in the near future, each of us will experience. And it may not be a fictional myth, a fairy tale. Let's try to develop this line of thought.  

 

We all know, from the school program, this is the least that we have of knowledge, about the Universe, Galaxies, Solar System, the movement of time does not go the same way. Each planet, satellite, star, has its own time, as rotation around its axis, and around the suns and stars. The rotation of galaxies and super galaxies has its own time. These are the laws established by Jehovah. Accordingly, traveling through the universe, will be time-differentiated. If I want to visit somewhere on some planet and then return home to Earth, it will take hundreds or even 100 thousand years, which will be counted on Earth. By flying away or moving, I will leave my family and friends behind, here on Earth. There may even be a few generations that I won't be able to trace, being a universe traveler, absent from Earth. And when I return, I will have missed a great deal, because time has passed, “it can't be brought back”. I won't be able to see how that generation grew up, developed, formed families, produced anything. It will be in the past. The only thing I will be able to see, after I return, is the result of their life, as such, the present. 

 

On the other hand, if we develop planets and settle them, then families or individuals living on these planets will have their own time of calculation, very different from the Earth time. And if I wanted to visit them, I'd have to break the time barrier again.

 

What I want to conclude is that we humans, whether we like it or not, will have to travel through time. Moving or going back to somewhere we will, move or go back to the past or the future, but it will most likely be the present to see events that will happen for us and for others. We will definitely want to see these events even if we are 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 light years or more away from each other, but without overcoming the time barrier, this is not possible. Overcoming distances, we will travel through time, past or future, to return to where we are expected or where we will be working. Time is calculated differently in different places.

 

Jehovah, is able to do it. 

 

(that's my reasoning) 

Edited May 16 by Andrey

[ucastrobr]

10 hours ago, Dages said:

But the rewinding would not be "past", as it's occuring AFTER. We have to take Time as a metaphysical entity, to stay logical
Because, even if Jehovah "rewinded" to be back "before" the creation of Jesus moment, the creation would already have happened before the rewinding. God isn't able to "undo" the creation. It's part of the story forever.

 

God is able "undo" but is easier Re-creation all things in future in His perfect way.

 

5 hours ago, Cool.As.Ice said:

What if we all were here, just all faithful and perfect? If Eve hadn’t sinned, no one would have died, and we would enjoying Paradise right now. The question is if all of us would be naked…🤔

 

Not at all; other flawless offspring (children) would have been created if Eve hadn't sinned.

If my parents had sex a millisecond earlier or later, could someone else exist instead of me?

As a matter of fact, if your parents had sex just a single minute later (realistically, a single second), you would not have ever existed, because testicles are constantly producing and replacing sperm by virtue of the process of spermatogenesis.

If your parents engaged in sexual activity a day before birth, you would not exist. That born individual would be someone else entirely, with different consciousness (meaning someone else controls the body and mind). Similarly, if your parents had sex later (say your dad was tired from work and not in the mood for sex when they mated, thereby resulting in a non-existent zygote), then you also wouldn’t exist.

Therefore, their meetings are not the only condition necessary for their existence. Timing is also crucial. 

 

 

Imagine, for instance, if just Eve had sinned and not Adam; probably Jehovah God would create another perfect woman for Adam. Other perfect offspring were also born.
I am here now because my father, mother, grandmother, and grandfather... they dated at exactly the right moment. 

I think even if time travel were possible, Jehovah wouldn't allow anyone to do it. 

[LeolaRootStew]

On 5/15/2025 at 8:03 PM, Dages said:

But the rewinding would not be "past", as it's occuring AFTER. We have to take Time as a metaphysical entity, to stay logical
Because, even if Jehovah "rewinded" to be back "before" the creation of Jesus moment, the creation would already have happened before the rewinding. God isn't able to "undo" the creation. It's part of the story forever.

 

 

That's why I put "rewind" in air quotes. It's like cleaning up the potted plant your cat tipped over; you can undo the effects, but it's still part of history. Jehovah could technically wipe people's memories in addition to reversing the effects and it would accomplish essentially the same thing as time travel, but He would know that the challenge in the Garden happened and He would be hiding it, which is against His character. I don't think Jehovah would use "time reversal".

[Shawnster]

On 5/15/2025 at 6:27 PM, Cool.As.Ice said:

If I was too late to catch her, I would’ve done a flying rugby tackle on Adam when Eve gave him the fruit. History would’ve been completely different right there.

If Adam and Eve do not sin, then you have no reason to go back in time to stop them from sinning. Therefore, you do not go back in time and they do sin. So you decide to go back and... 

 

 

On 5/16/2025 at 2:06 AM, Cool.As.Ice said:

What if we all were here, just all faithful and perfect? If Eve hadn’t sinned, no one would have died, and we would enjoying Paradise right now. The question is if all of us would be naked…🤔

 

 

Then it would not be us. 

 

My father was married and divorced before he met my mother, for example. Had there never been sin, there would be no divorce and, therefore, I would not have been conceived. 

 

The same is true for each and every one of us. All of us are here because, somewhere in the past, someone remarried aftet divorce or death, someone was conceived out of wedlock, our ancestors migrated to a new location to escape war, poverty, disease, or famine, and so forth. 

 

The human race would exist, just not us as individuals. 

[minister159]

On 5/15/2025 at 11:06 PM, Cool.As.Ice said:

Nothing is impossible with a God who can destroy an immortal creature

This is an oxymoron.

[Witness1970]

On 5/15/2025 at 8:10 PM, ucastrobr said:

Consistency Paradox/Grandfather Paradox:

This occurs when a time traveler's actions in the past directly contradict the events that led to their own existence, creating a logical contradiction. For example, if someone travels back in time and kills their own grandfather, they would never have been born in the first place, thus making their own time travel impossible. 

You cannot be born if you travel time since your existence depends on Eve having sex at precisely timed intervals and bearing offspring following. 

 If Eve hadn't sinned and for example had children an hour later, the real history, the whole history would change, and no one would be here.

I was trying to figure out how to say what you said, but you said it better.  Now I don't have to worry about saying it.

 

What if I could copy what you said, go back in time, and say it first.  JK.

 

Doctor Who said, "First things first, but not necessarily in that order."