2 American Mormons detained in Russia

[New World Explorer]

Moscow (CNN)Two US citizens have been detained in the southern Russian city of Novorossiysk, the Russian Foreign Ministry told CNN on Wednesday.

"We can confirm information about the detention of a few US citizens," Maria Zakharova said in response to a question about reports of the detention of two members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/06/europe/us-citizens-detained-russia-intl/index.html

[Thesauron]

That’s sad. I hope they won’t get treated like we are.

[campanula]

US citizens never had been treated like Russian citizens. 

[Hannah]

Did they think they were Jehovah's witnesses ?

[Lee49]

Well at least they can call home more than twice per year under their new rules for missionaries! The old rule only allowed  them 2 calls home/yr.😉

[Thesauron]

US citizens never had been treated like Russian citizens. 

I don’t think Russia really cares about that. Brother Christensen is Danish.

[Raven]

Well we are the canaries of human rights.

[campanula]

8 hours ago, Thesauron said:

I don’t think Russia really cares about that. Brother Christensen is Danish.

Yes, but as far as I know he was not tortured. That means he is treated differently.

Edited March 7, 2019 by campanula

[Thesauron]

Yes, but as far as I know he was not tortured. That means he is treated differently.

Most arrested Russians were not tortured either. We’ll see about the legal outcome of the cases where the brothers were tortured. If signals come from Kremlin that it’s alright, then we might see it more widely used.

[Dustparticle]

Crazy!  Next it is Girl Scouts

[Lewis]

2 hours ago, Dustparticle said:

Crazy!  Next it is Girl Scouts

And then Vegans!! 🥗

[campanula]

On 3/7/2019 at 7:24 AM, Thesauron said:

Most arrested Russians were not tortured either. We’ll see about the legal outcome of the cases where the brothers were tortured. If signals come from Kremlin that it’s alright, then we might see it more widely used.

Sorry, but

I'm not speaking about future, I'm speaking about past. Russian citizens were tortured, foreigner - was not.

I'm also not speaking about quantity.  I'm speaking about simple fact that they are treated diffetently.

That's it.

[carlos]

3 hours ago, campanula said:

Sorry, but

I'm not speaking about future, I'm speaking about past. Russian citizens were tortured, foreigner - was not.

I'm also not speaking about quantity.  I'm speaking about simple fact that they are treated diffetently.

That's it.

That's true, in most dictatorial countries foreigners are treated differently to save face with the international community. That's why it's surprising what the Russian authorities are doing with brother Christensen. The usual thing would have been to deport him.

[EccentricM]

On 3/6/2019 at 8:21 PM, Lee49 said:

Well at least they can call home more than twice per year under their new rules for missionaries! The old rule only allowed  them 2 calls home/yr.😉

 

Best make it good in that situation then! Russia will only offer the 50/50 after that "renounce or have persecution".

Edited March 8, 2019 by EccentricM

[EccentricM]

12 hours ago, carlos said:

That's why it's surprising what the Russian authorities are doing with brother Christensen. The usual thing would have been to deport him.

Perhaps it's all to do with prophecy, and really living up to being the King of the North, to cause friction with the South and its associates.

[Katty]

Idk if I mentioned it here, but I always tell people ""Christian groups are kicking themselves in the heel by not caring about the persecution of the Witnesses!" I guess they think they're being freed from something, but when Jehovah's Witnesses lose their human rights and are persucuted, other groups aren't to far to follow.

[Thesauron]

Idk if I mentioned it here, but I always tell people ""Christian groups are kicking themselves in the heel by not caring about the persecution of the Witnesses!" I guess they think they're being freed from something, but when Jehovah's Witnesses lose their human rights and are persucuted, other groups aren't to far to follow.

As I mentioned before, the brothers are a litmus test when it comes to the state of human rights in an area...

[Bek]

On 3/8/2019 at 4:26 PM, carlos said:

That's true, in most dictatorial countries foreigners are treated differently to save face with the international community. That's why it's surprising what the Russian authorities are doing with brother Christensen. The usual thing would have been to deport him.

I think they cannot deport him while the criminal proceedings are under way. The charges against are serious and if he got deported, that would encourage other foreign "extremists" to come, especially the real ones with bombs.  

 

The two Mormons will be deported. 

 

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-deport-us-mormons-novorossiisk/29810041.html