Applause for proposal to strip tax exempt status from religions which aren’t pro LGBT. Tictictic.

[BenJepthah]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/10/beto-orourke-strip-catholic-church-tax-exemptions/

       This one actually says it. I wonder how many , of in power, would actually do it?

[Dages]

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He also vowed to make it a “priority” to “stop” such religions and even individuals.

Wow... nice. If the religion topic would enter the discussion... verrrry nice

[BenJepthah]

1 hour ago, Dages said:

Wow... nice. If the religion topic would enter the discussion... verrrry nice

The “ individuals “ thing really set off bells and whistles.

[Dages]

Beto won't be chosen for the Dem, I guess, but it's an interesting entry of the topic in the US elections... even if I'd rather hear this call from another beast  

[BenJepthah]

11 minutes ago, Dages said:

Beto won't be chosen for the Dem, I guess, but it's an interesting entry of the topic in the US elections... even if I'd rather hear this call from another beast  

I tend to agree about his chances but the fact that with these thoughts openly expressed he is able to get any platform at all much less his rather substantial popularity tells much about the direction the rest of the pack is already going. 

[JennyM]

So he is pro LGBT.. Catholic is pro -LGBT.... muslims arent pro-LGBT... they will be gone first then 

[Zephyr]

Some may lose it. 
 

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/nation-world/orourke-religious-institutions-should-lose-tax-exempt-status-if-they-oppose-gay-marriage

[Tortuga]

Keep in mind that this is just a politician looking for votes. 

Edited October 12, 2019 by Bro Richard

[Sheep]

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There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break, for anyone or any institution, any organization in America, that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every single one of us.

I don't know how this could apply to Jehovah's Witnesses (or any other religion for that matter). Whose human rights are we denying? Whose human rights are any religion denying? If anyone doesn't agree with the teachings of a religion, then they don't become members of that religion. If someone becomes gay or lesbian and wants to live and act as one, then they just leave the religion so they can do what they want. Simple as that! So whose rights are being denied?

[Shawnster]

11 hours ago, Bro Richard said:

Keep in mind that this is just a politician looking for votes. 

How much power does the US President have to implement such a move? 

[Zephyr]

In a society where even the Boy Scouts now accepts girls, guys with wigs can enter and sit on a toilet next to your daughter...yeah...it’s a good possibility that JWs will be penalized is some way for not marrying LGBTQs, or allowing them to be members or participate in some way during the meetings. It might not be under Beto’s watch but it will be a popular movement that I see it hard for JWs to not be affected. Hopefully the GT comes before. 

[BenJepthah]

9 hours ago, Zephyr said:

In a society where even the Boy Scouts now accepts girls, guys with wigs can enter and sit on a toilet next to your daughter...yeah...it’s a good possibility that JWs will be penalized is some way for not marrying LGBTQs, or allowing them to be members or participate in some way during the meetings. It might not be under Beto’s watch but it will be a popular movement that I see it hard for JWs to not be affected. Hopefully the GT comes before. 

In actuality LGBTQ persons are welcome to be present at and have limited participation in our meetings. They , in effect , are treated equally to any other person who is not yet an unbaptized publisher. 

[BenJepthah]

18 hours ago, Shawnster said:

How much power does the US President have to implement such a move? 

Very little at present. It would require a constitutional change. The Congress would have to vote to actively amend the US Constitution  then a bill would have to pass through both the house and the senate. Then legal challenges would be made against that Bill through the federal courts up to the SCOTUS.  

    It would , in fact, take more than one 8 year term to get it completely done.  

    The fact that a politician might have popular support for such a move demonstrates just how far popular opinion on the value of religious freedom has withdrawn. 

[cricket246]

I wonder if this could just be the beginning? 1st, they start stripping the rights of different religions by saying they have to support LGBT rights or lose tax exempt status... Then the next thing they try is to take away other rights such as - A religion has to allow gays to be members of their organization or they won't be allowed to publicly practice their religion?... hmmm..

[JennyM]

6 minutes ago, cricket246 said:

I wonder if this could just be the beginning? 1st, they start stripping the rights of different religions by saying they have to support LGBT rights or lose tax exempt status... Then the next thing they try is to take away other rights such as - A religion has to allow gays to be members of their organization or they won't be allowed to publicly practice their religion?... hmmm..

I hope it could be. 

[Nirex]

1 hour ago, cricket246 said:

I wonder if this could just be the beginning? 1st, they start stripping the rights of different religions by saying they have to support LGBT rights or lose tax exempt status... Then the next thing they try is to take away other rights such as - A religion has to allow gays to be members of their organization or they won't be allowed to publicly practice their religion?... hmmm..

There's also this going on https://www.newsweek.com/politician-catholic-church-abuse-warning-signs-1464619

[McKay]

On 10/13/2019 at 8:00 PM, cricket246 said:

I wonder if this could just be the beginning? 1st, they start stripping the rights of different religions by saying they have to support LGBT rights or lose tax exempt status... Then the next thing they try is to take away other rights such as - A religion has to allow gays to be members of their organization or they won't be allowed to publicly practice their religion?... hmmm..

 

On 10/13/2019 at 8:06 PM, JennyM said:

I hope it could be. 

 

On 10/13/2019 at 9:12 PM, Nirex said:

There's also this going on https://www.newsweek.com/politician-catholic-church-abuse-warning-signs-1464619

Our publications have been clear (as does Revelation 17 for that matter) that the attack on BtG will not be a gradual process but a sudden attack that no one will see coming. We're not there yet. However, what this DOES show is that more and more people are becoming hostile toward religion in general and that IS significant because when the attack does come it will be interesting to see what forces, if any, will care enough to stop it. By then, the "waters" around Babylon will be low enough for the nations to manage.

[JennyM]

On 10/14/2019 at 9:12 AM, Nirex said:

There's also this going on https://www.newsweek.com/politician-catholic-church-abuse-warning-signs-1464619

Seems like politicians are starting to go against religious institutions.. Jehovah will just open their mouth. 

[jayrtom]

On 10/12/2019 at 7:12 PM, Sheep said:

I don't know how this could apply to Jehovah's Witnesses (or any other religion for that matter). Whose human rights are we denying? Whose human rights are any religion denying? If anyone doesn't agree with the teachings of a religion, then they don't become members of that religion. If someone becomes gay or lesbian and wants to live and act as one, then they just leave the religion so they can do what they want. Simple as that! So whose rights are being denied?

You're right

Unless they wont to force us to change our doctrines that doesn't make sense... we don't make protests about gays nor do we try to force any ideas on others about LGBT so we nothing to do with this..No one can  force a religion to acept this or that... Imagine a religions of Atheysts being forced to accept god believing members... That doesn't make sense...

 

On 10/14/2019 at 1:00 AM, cricket246 said:

I wonder if this could just be the beginning? 1st, they start stripping the rights of different religions by saying they have to support LGBT rights or lose tax exempt status... Then the next thing they try is to take away other rights such as - A religion has to allow gays to be members of their organization or they won't be allowed to publicly practice their religion?... hmmm..

As a matter of fact, gays can be JW's. The fact is that if they start learning about Jehovah and his laws they must cease to practice immorality being that with a same sex person or a different sex person. A practicing gay is jus as a sinner as an adulterous or fornicator heterossexual.

 

 

A religion has the right of having their own statutes. and has the right to acpet or not an individue into the ranks

That's the same with any club. Now the government will obligate any club to accept any member, ignoring its requirements?

No, I don't think this has any legs to go forward...

 

Edited October 16, 2019 by jayrtom

[Guri]

Hm.. Moral standards have dropped down indeed and that is called the wickedness in The Bible. We know that’s how it should be according 2 Timothy 3:13: “Wicked men and impostors will advance from bad to worse, misleading and being misled”.I wonder how far would they go? 

[Tortuga]

Beto O'Rourke has dropped out of the 2020 presidential race.

[BenJepthah]

1 minute ago, Bro Richard said:

Beto O'Rourke has dropped out of the 2020 presidential race.

Yes , saw this today. Still, the applause itself indicates the leaning of hearts of people.