Jehovah’s Witnesses File Copyright Lawsuit in Response to Blundering Christmas Album

[Musky]

https://torrentfreak.com/jehovahs-witnesses-file-copyright-lawsuit-in-response-to-blundering-christmas-album-201225/

 

Interesting article. Sounds like a convoluted legal mess.

[Pjdriver]

A Christmas album?  Now that’s irony for ya.

I’m surprised they weren’t offended by the word “obey” in the title. 

 

 

[Sister Twister]

Imagine our lovely song played in a Cathedral.

[Qapla]

    

[carlos]

This is the consequence of this story:

https://jwtalk.net/topic/46977-aled-jones-listen-obey-and-be-blessed-merged/

 

1 hour ago, Musky said:

Interesting article. Sounds like a convoluted legal mess.

BMG used a copyrighted song after being denied a license to use it. It seems quite straightforward.

[Musky]

 

 

This is the consequence of this story: https://jwtalk.net/topic/46977-aled-jones-listen-obey-and-be-blessed-merged/

 

BMG used a copyrighted song after being denied a license to use it. It seems quite straightforward.

 

I was thinking that this part could get complicated. It's "he said, she said" 

 

"In a response from BMG UK, the company said that it had been given permission to use it by German rights society GEMA, another entity known for its own copyright infringement lawsuits.

Despite the claims from both music outfits, Watch Tower insists it never approved licenses"

 

 

 

 

[New World Explorer]

1 hour ago, Maria Keerie said:

Imagine our lovely song played in a Cathedral.

And priest saying ...for more fine spiritual material please visit jw.org where this songs comes from ....what are you waiting for... get out from here and Jehovah will take you in LOL 

[friendlyone]

Fifteen pages of PDF in the Complaint against the Rights Management Company. It appears the lawyers are been very thorough, as we'd expect them to be.

 

 

[TrueTomHarley]

18 hours ago, Pjdriver said:

 

I’m surprised they weren’t offended by the word “obey” in the title. 

 

 

Yeah, I’m surprised, if they were going to rip off a song, that they would choose that one.

 

Listen, obey, and be Blessed” as a interdenominational song? Obey what? Obey the religious call to give the election to Trump? Obey the religious call to promote choice?  Obey the religious call to defy authorities and pack out your church, Covid notwithstanding? Obey the religious call to protest the police? And suggest that you will be “blessed” regardless of who, how, what you obey? No way. Make a buck on our song? For Christmas? No.

[Sister Twister]

16 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

And priest saying ...for more fine spiritual material please visit jw.org where this songs comes from ....what are you waiting for... get out from here and Jehovah will take you in LOL 

Well I guess that would work !

[Sylv]

18 hours ago, Musky said:

 

 

 

I was thinking that this part could get complicated. It's "he said, she said" 

 

"In a response from BMG UK, the company said that it had been given permission to use it by German rights society GEMA, another entity known for its own copyright infringement lawsuits.

Despite the claims from both music outfits, Watch Tower insists it never approved licenses"

 

 

 

 

They will need to show something in writing. Verbal consent won't hold up in court, as far as I know.

[Luisabola]

Yeah surely if watchtower gave their consent, then there must be something in writing. When it’s found that there isn’t, the case will surely be given to us.

[Lee49]

Listen, obey, and be blessed, as we pass the plate to further our interest. 

[sunshine]

Ridiculous.  Probably we would be a soft touch and concede.

[friendlyone]

I find it amazing that despite prior notice from the organization that the song wouldn't be allowed to be used the management company still chose to go ahead, ignoring the warning.

 

I wonder how much Jones himself knew of the situation. It's hard to think that he wouldn't have been told of the notification from the organization, but I suppose that's all for the lawyers to sort out.

 

At least it should help any Witnesses who might have possibly been stumbled by this album to understand more clearly what's gone on. And for those in the world who accused us of being hypocritical, engaging in interfaith etc, some will be put straight, others will believe what they want anyway.

 

Bottom line, leave it to Jehovah's organization to resolve matters, and exercise patience.

 

 

[LoneWanderer]

On 12/29/2020 at 6:24 AM, friendlyone said:

At least it should help any Witnesses who might have possibly been stumbled by this album to understand more clearly what's gone on. And for those in the world who accused us of being hypocritical, engaging in interfaith etc, some will be put straight, others will believe what they want anyway.

I was surprised how in-depth the article on Torrentfreak was. The article mentioned how this issue had been discussed on various JW forums, and I was like "There's hardly any real forums for people who actually are Witnesses"  Few people today know, or sadly even care, enough so as to be informed that we refuse to engage in anything with connections to interfaith. So I do think that any stirring of the pot would mostly be in the interests of former Witnesses who really have nothing better to do with their lives.

 

I  wonder how many "real" Witnesses even knew about the whole debacle. I for one would never have heard about this "freak incident" if it wasn't for JWTalk, but then again I am not particularly extroverted either. I think very few people who aren't influenced by the bitter hate of disfellowshipped/disassociated ones would lose their sleep over how the Organization was going to solve the matter. We all know to trust the Slave. But then again Br. Morris in a recent Broadcasting did talk to parents who were aghast because of the "violence" featured in our productions, so I guess there are Karens/Kevins among our brothers and sisters, too