Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Dustparticle]

8 minutes ago, Ahuvah said:

With each other? Or are they uniting?

 

 With each other sis.

[Dolce vita]

16 minutes ago, Ahuvah said:

With each other? Or are they uniting?

Yes, with each other.

[Ahuvah]

Isn't nice to be amongst grown ups, because we know the truth? All I see are school yard bullies with too much power, money and dangerous toys. I don't see any adult behavior. 

I'm so over bully tactics and tantrums and no thought about anyone else but themselves. I'm tired too, but fighting to not tire out. We are almost there.

[New World Explorer]

Current issues that relate to PS are …

War in Ukraine 

War in Gaza

Iran talks …. (About nukes, and it could result in a major war if not satisfactory) 

Lack of Economic security

Climate change 

 

The world is facing unprecedented times. 

[sania]

Tensions between India and Pakistan are escalating now over the recent J&K terrorist attack on tourists... 

[Dustparticle]

6 minutes ago, sania said:

Tensions between India and Pakistan are escalating now over the recent J&K terrorist attack on tourists... 

 

 For the sake of many lives. I hope the escalation dies out. 

[navco]

not to be off topic a have a question which  Jehovah hasnt revealed yet if people can jump in and take Jehovah side up to armaggeddon which is a good thing which will more than likely  save millions what about wicked apostates who might jump on Jehovah side for wicked reasons just to save their hide not for remorse which i know some apostates could have?

[Tortuga]

2 minutes ago, navco said:

not to be off topic a have a question which  Jehovah hasnt revealed yet if people can jump in and take Jehovah side up to armaggeddon which is a good thing which will more than likely  save millions what about wicked apostates who might jump on Jehovah side for wicked reasons just to save their hide not for remorse which i know some apostates could have?

Who are they fooling? Jehovah?

Jehovah can read hearts, no one is going to fool him.

[Jwanon]

8 minutes ago, navco said:

what about wicked apostates who might jump on Jehovah side for wicked reasons just to save their hide

 

struck dead like Anannias and Sapphira

[Doug]

2 hours ago, sania said:

Tensions between India and Pakistan are escalating now over the recent J&K terrorist attack on tourists... 

 

Stuff I didn't know ~  

 

India, Pakistan and China are the only three-way nuclear junction in the world.

China and Pakistan are strong allies.

US and India are strong allies.

 

In response to the massacre of tourists, India has suspended the Indus Water Treaty, which governs the free-flow of six rivers into Pakistan.. If India restricts the water it would have a devastating impact on agriculture. Pakistan says it would consider any restrictions of water an "act of war".

[computerwiz]

11 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

The world is facing unprecedented times. 

 

That word is used far too much.    No offense, just a pet peeve of mine.    It's more based in sensationalism than reality.

 

 

Because in reality, there is nothing new.  Perhaps to our generation.  But I think those that have lived through WW1 or WW2 and/or the Great Depression would say "we haven't seen anything yet".  As far as warfare is concerned, definitely not the worst we've seen.  Even COVID compared to past pandemics, has not been as bad.  So indeed, there is past precedent to look at.

 

Don't get me wrong, that does not in any way diminish the signs of the times.  The culmination of many signs, even if to a lesser degree than previously, points to where we are in the stream of time.  And especially the characteristics of people, as 2 Timothy 3 points out, is a clearer sign than anything else.

 

All that just to say I really don't like the word "unprecedented".  It's used incorrectly 95% of the time.  

 

If there has been anything similar that has happened before, we have "precedent".  What we do see is "historic" events (record breaking, something noteworthy in our history, or unusual for our time/area).  Or another similar word....I'm sure a thesaurus can help.  

 

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But no need to listen to me.  I'm just ranting cuz I'm bored at work right now.  Carry on...  

 

[New World Explorer]

9 minutes ago, computerwiz said:

 

That word is used far too much.    No offense, just a pet peeve of mine.    It's more based in sensationalism than reality.

 

 

Because in reality, there is nothing new.  Perhaps to our generation.  But I think those that have lived through WW1 or WW2 and/or the Great Depression would say "we haven't seen anything yet".  As far as warfare is concerned, definitely not the worst we've seen.  Even COVID compared to past pandemics, has not been as bad.  So indeed, there is past precedent to look at.

 

Don't get me wrong, that does not in any way diminish the signs of the times.  The culmination of many signs, even if to a lesser degree than previously, points to where we are in the stream of time.  And especially the characteristics of people, as 2 Timothy 3 points out, is a clearer sign than anything else.

 

All that just to say I really don't like the word "unprecedented".  It's used incorrectly 95% of the time.  

 

If there has been anything similar that has happened before, we have "precedent".  What we do see is "historic" events (record breaking, something noteworthy in our history, or unusual for our time/area).  Or another similar word....I'm sure a thesaurus can help.  

 

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But no need to listen to me.  I'm just ranting cuz I'm bored at work right now.  Carry on...  

 

Do you feel the same way about word "critical?" 😉

[computerwiz]

21 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

Do you feel the same way about word "critical?" 😉

 

No, because it accurately describes the times.   

[johnnyjw01]

Modern society feels like a beautiful house built on weak foundations. On the surface, we enjoy comfort, technology, and global connection. But underneath, there are serious cracks: social inequality, climate change, political instability, mental health struggles, and a growing sense of disconnection. These are not just personal problems—they are signs that the system itself is fragile. Even though we’re not living in the worst time in history, the combination of global crises makes us feel like we’re standing on the edge of collapse…

[Shawnster]

21 minutes ago, computerwiz said:

 

No, because it accurately describes the times.   

 

And these times are critical. More critical, I'd say, than in the past. 

 

Yes, I understand (and sometimes agree) that unprecedented is overused. You cited three major moments in the past that are equivalent to now. However, the life of the average person is way more stressful now than then. During WWI and WWII, for example, most families were single income in the US. Even after those wars and through the 50s up to the early 70s dad worked, mom stayed home, and the nuclear family was normal. 

 

Starting about the 70s to now it's different. The norm seems to be broken homes. Both parents (if there are two) work. Even teenagers need to get a job if they want clothes. Drug abuse is common. Alternate lifestyles, porn, and LGBT culture is overwhelming. The moral decay and bankruptcy is blatant and overwhelming. 

 

Political crisis have always been shocking. Now, in addition, we have the complete collapse of the family and the ability to meet our basic needs. These are truly critical times. 

[Tortuga]

1 hour ago, New World Explorer said:

Do you feel the same way about word "critical?" 😉

As in "Why is he being so critical"?

[computerwiz]

6 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

the life of the average person is way more stressful now than then.

 

Indeed.  Though the funny/ironic part is it could be way less stressful than before (for most) if one just disconnected.  So much stress comes from the news, social media, caring too much about the opinion of others, etc. that much stress is self-inflicted.  A lot even comes from the higher intellect we have these days...

 

My wife & I just started this new things about a week ago: "What would a 'dumb' person do?" for any situation that stresses us.  And it works!   Case in point: she had an assignment for our recent assembly.  Brother texts her the contact of the brother that is her oversight.  No further info.  "Do I need to contact him?  What is my exact assignment?  When do I need to show up?"  All thoughts running through her head.  So then we put it to practice: "What would a 'dumb' person do?"  The answer: just shrug & show up.  Figure it out as we go.  What happened: The brother contacted her the night before.  All her questions were answered.  She just needed patience.

 

But that silly question is helping eliminate some stress.  

 

14 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

The moral decay and bankruptcy is blatant and overwhelming. 

14 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Now, in addition, we have the complete collapse of the family and the ability to meet our basic needs.

 

Yeah this is the big one that could have some unprecedented elements.  Especially with regards to the trans movement.  But again....Sodom & Gomorrah?  It is hard to call anything truly "unprecedented", by the very definition of the word.  

 

16 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

These are truly critical times. 

 

No argument here!

 

And even if we can find our peace (as mentioned above about the "mostly" self-inflicted stress [see also 1 Tim 6:8 & Matt 6:25]), seeing all our dear brothers & sisters going through so much will certainly impact us, no matter what.  

[Ahuvah]

14 hours ago, navco said:

not to be off topic a have a question which  Jehovah hasnt revealed yet if people can jump in and take Jehovah side up to armaggeddon which is a good thing which will more than likely  save millions what about wicked apostates who might jump on Jehovah side for wicked reasons just to save their hide not for remorse which i know some apostates could have?

Everyone will be tested, even those who genuinely turn to Jehovah in the last moments. They will still have to stand up for Jehovah. If there are some apostates who want to save their skin, they won't have the qualities needed from Jehovah to do so. 

 

It takes faith, accurate knowledge and a deep love to move one to stand up for truth. It's been pictured in artwork that angels will be present on our behalf. Jehovah will only direct his spirit on behalf of those who truly belong to him. 

 

As the previous post said  there is no fooling Jehovah.