Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Ysaias]

5 hours ago, JennyM said:

Maybe this is our campaign this September... My first reaction to it is maybe this is it!  Lets just keep on the watch!

"During the month of September 2026, there will be a worldwide campaign featuring the Enjoy Life Forever! brochure. We will endeavor to place this brochure with all interested people in our territory with the goal of starting Bible studies." --Announcements and Reminders, April.

Although the focus will be the brochure and Bible studies, the wp26.1 will be in the "Teaching Toolbox" during Sept-Oct. 

[Watchful Sentinel]

7 hours ago, ucastrobr said:

BlackRock CEO Larry Fink has warned that financing the trillions of dollars required to build AI data centers and necessary power grids will increasingly need to come from everyday Americans' savings and pension accounts.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/larry-fink-warns-americans-pensions-113500059.html

 

 

All American citizens should have to pay it. That seems only fair.

It's easy to say it's fair that Americans need to pay for it when it doesn't have the potential to affect you. It’s one thing for tax dollars being used for things that are actually beneficial, like hospitals, fire departments, the police, and public schools. But based on what I know about these data centers and the intent behind them, it won't really help Americans, or anyone, very much. I read the article you pasted, and it looks like many who’ve spent decades investing for retirement may end up paying for a system that will take away jobs from their children and grandchildren.

[shali]

After hearing the announcement last night at our midweek meeting that JW.org will now have a presence on certain social media platforms (Instagram and TikTok I think) for the "press" - makes me think we are closer than ever to the GT.  I have always felt that the fastest way to get that message out that the end is near is through social media and news outlets - this would make it almost immediate and worldwide.  

[LeolaRootStew]

20 minutes ago, shali said:

After hearing the announcement last night at our midweek meeting that JW.org will now have a presence on certain social media platforms (Instagram and TikTok I think) for the "press" - makes me think we are closer than ever to the GT.  I have always felt that the fastest way to get that message out that the end is near is through social media and news outlets - this would make it almost immediate and worldwide.  

 

I hope this pilot program is successful and they start sharing magazines and articles next. 

[ucastrobr]

Ivanka Trump Plans an Off-the-Grid Island Retreat for Herself and Jared

Located in the Mediterranean, the island covers about 1,400 hectares and currently has no electricity.

“The architecture must be fully integrated with the natural environment.”

Is this an apocalypse bunker in the making?

Meanwhile, Trump reportedly wants the new White House ballroom to include a massive bunker underneath.

Peter Thiel, the co-founder of Palantir Technologies, has reportedly moved abroad to Argentina, and now Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump are establishing themselves outside the United States as well?

Coincidence, or do they see something coming?

[Michał]

3 hours ago, shali said:

After hearing the announcement last night at our midweek meeting that JW.org will now have a presence on certain social media platforms (Instagram and TikTok I think) for the "press" - makes me think we are closer than ever to the GT.  I have always felt that the fastest way to get that message out that the end is near is through social media and news outlets - this would make it almost immediate and worldwide.  

Yes! I imagined that flooding (pun intended!) newsfeeds on social media during GT will be one of many ways to make known Jehovah’s name at that time. 
(I’m also improving sound system in my car to be ready to go through town as a sound car 😆)

Edited yesterday at 06:24 PM by Michał
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[trottigy]

 

3 hours ago, ucastrobr said:

Ivanka Trump Plans an Off-the-Grid Island Retreat for Herself and Jared

Located in the Mediterranean, the island covers about 1,400 hectares and currently has no electricity.

“The architecture must be fully integrated with the natural environment.”

Is this an apocalypse bunker in the making?

Meanwhile, Trump reportedly wants the new White House ballroom to include a massive bunker underneath.

Peter Thiel, the co-founder of Palantir Technologies, has reportedly moved abroad to Argentina, and now Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump are establishing themselves outside the United States as well?

Coincidence, or do they see something coming?

 

Ivanka Trump 'swam' to a 1,400-Hectare Mediterranean island. Now she and Jared Kushner are building a $1.5 billion resort there - The Economic Times

 

This article said it was going to be a resort, not a home. Most small islands don't have a "grid".

 

They do all have a lot in common - how to make even more money, but that is what real-estate developers do, eh.

[Sofia]

6 hours ago, shali said:

After hearing the announcement last night at our midweek meeting that JW.org will now have a presence on certain social media platforms (Instagram and TikTok I think) for the "press" - makes me think we are closer than ever to the GT.  I have always felt that the fastest way to get that message out that the end is near is through social media and news outlets - this would make it almost immediate and worldwide.  

Imagine reading in Instagram Jw press page “the great tribulation has started!”

[LeolaRootStew]

4 hours ago, Sofia said:

Imagine reading in Instagram Jw press page “the great tribulation has started!”

 

I never thought about that before. Would we announce to the world that the GT has started? I guess I always imagined we would say that Armageddon is coming soon, but I never thought about explaining the GT to people. Is it weird that that seems like private information? 😅

[Shawnster]

1 hour ago, LeolaRootStew said:

Would we announce to the world that the GT has started

 

Why not? 

 

1 hour ago, LeolaRootStew said:

I guess I always imagined we would say that Armageddon is coming soon,

 

Haven't we been doing this since 1879?  

 

1 hour ago, LeolaRootStew said:

Is it weird that that seems like private information?

 

Aren't Jesus words public? He's the one who first mentioned it. 

[Dages]

9 hours ago, Sofia said:

Imagine reading in Instagram Jw press page “the great tribulation has started!”

Most viral instagram post ever  

Please Jehovah

[JennyM]

Its coming! 

[LeolaRootStew]

9 hours ago, Shawnster said:

 

Why not? 

 

 

Haven't we been doing this since 1879?  

 

 

Aren't Jesus words public? He's the one who first mentioned it. 

 

I think you are missing the spirit of what I said

[computerwiz]

Had some shower thoughts about how the end will come about.  🤔  Just an idea....but follow this thinking:

 

Question posed to AI:

 

Spoiler

When Jehovah brought about the 12 plagues on Egypt, he picked specific plagues to humiliate the Egyptian gods. When Babylon got overthrown, it was their own stupid fault for leaving the gates open and not paying attention. When Alexander the Great met his demise, it was from a disease delivered by a silly little mosquito. When Jehovah takes down the haughty, he does so with style and in a way that seems to humiliate them. Any other examples like this from the scriptures?

 

I know the "mosquito" example may not have come from Jehovah, but just keep following the thought process for now...

 

AI's response:

 

 

Spoiler

Yes. A recurring theme in the Scriptures is that Jehovah often uses the very thing people trust in, boast about, or misuse as the instrument of their downfall. The result is not merely defeat—it exposes their arrogance and demonstrates that no human, nation, false god, or military power can stand against him.

Here are several examples:

Goliath was beheaded with his own sword

Goliath came out armed like an unstoppable champion. He mocked Jehovah and trusted completely in his size, armor, and weapons.

Yet Jehovah allowed a shepherd boy with a sling to bring him down. Then David used Goliath's own sword to cut off his head. (1 Samuel 17:50, 51)

The giant's prized weapon became a trophy of his humiliation.

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Haman died on the stake he built

Haman constructed a 50-cubit-high stake intending to publicly disgrace Mordecai.

Instead, the king ordered Haman himself to be executed on that very stake. (Esther 7:9, 10)

The instrument of his planned triumph became the instrument of his disgrace.

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Pharaoh's army drowned in the sea they thought they had conquered

Pharaoh saw the parted sea as an opportunity to finish off Israel.

The Egyptians followed Israel into the seabed, convinced victory was within reach. Then the waters returned and destroyed them. (Exodus 14:23-28)

The path that appeared to guarantee success became their grave.

---

Absalom was caught by the thing that made him famous

Absalom was renowned for his handsome appearance and magnificent hair. (2 Samuel 14:25, 26)

During his rebellion against David, his head became entangled in a large tree, leaving him hanging helplessly while his mule ran on. (2 Samuel 18:9)

The feature that contributed to his pride became associated with his downfall.

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Sisera was defeated by someone he never considered a threat

Sisera commanded 900 iron war chariots and terrorized Israel for years.

After fleeing the battlefield, exhausted and vulnerable, he sought refuge in a tent. There he was killed by Jael, using an ordinary tent peg. (Judges 4:17-22)

A feared general was brought down not by another general but by a woman using household tools.

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Nebuchadnezzar became like a beast

Nebuchadnezzar II stood on his palace roof admiring "Great Babylon" and crediting himself for its greatness. (Daniel 4:30)

Immediately afterward, he lost his sanity and lived like an animal until he acknowledged Jehovah's sovereignty. (Daniel 4:31-33)

The king who exalted himself above everyone else was reduced below ordinary human society.

---

Belshazzar lost Babylon while celebrating Babylon's greatness

Belshazzar held a lavish feast, drank wine from vessels taken from Jehovah's temple, and praised Babylonian gods.

That same night Babylon fell. (Daniel 5:1-5, 30)

The celebration of his security became the setting for his judgment.

This one especially fits your observation. Babylon's walls were legendary. Its rulers felt untouchable. Yet while they feasted, the enemy entered the city.

---

Herod accepted divine honors and was struck down

Herod Agrippa I delivered a speech, and the crowd shouted: "The voice of a god, and not of a man!"

Instead of correcting them, he accepted the praise. Immediately he was struck and later died. (Acts 12:21-23)

The moment of maximum public glory became the moment of judgment.

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The Assyrian army was destroyed without a battle

Sennacherib mocked Jehovah and boasted that no god had been able to stop Assyria.

Rather than a great military showdown, a single angel struck down 185,000 Assyrian soldiers in one night. (2 Kings 19:35)

The empire that specialized in military intimidation was defeated without a battle.

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The pattern

A pattern emerges throughout Scripture:

• Pharaoh trusted Egypt and its gods.
• Goliath trusted weapons and strength.
• Haman trusted political power.
• Absalom trusted his appearance.
• Nebuchadnezzar trusted his achievements.
• Belshazzar trusted Babylon's defenses.
• Herod trusted public admiration.

Jehovah often chooses a method that exposes the emptiness of the very thing they trusted in.

That seems consistent with the principle found at Proverbs 16:18:

"Pride is before a crash, And a haughty spirit before stumbling."

The crash is often more than a defeat—it becomes a lesson that reveals exactly where the proud person's confidence was misplaced.

 

 

 

So...we have the pattern.  We have the precedence.

 

With that in mind...here's MY thought:

 

Spoiler

Mankind's greatest achievement: Artificial Intelligence

If the pattern seen throughout Scripture continues, it would not be surprising if humanity's greatest source of confidence became a source of humiliation.

 

Today many place extraordinary trust in artificial intelligence, automation, surveillance systems, and advanced robotics, believing that human ingenuity can solve virtually any problem. If Jehovah chooses to expose the limits of human rulership, he could do so in a way that demonstrates that even the most sophisticated technology is powerless to preserve a system he has judged. Much like Babylon's walls, Egypt's gods, or Goliath's weapons, the very things people trust in most could end up highlighting how completely human efforts fall short when confronted with Jehovah's purpose.

 

Being an achievement that is WORLDWIDE, it is a fitting choice to be what Jehovah uses to humiliate the human race (those alienated from God) and showing the failure of humans trying to live apart from God.

 

The extent of that humiliation remains to be seen.  But I think that's the path humanity is going to walk down... 🤔

 

And to have the wicked wiped out by their own machines?.....quite poetic, methinks.

 

 

 

Guess we'll just have to wait and see....  

 

[Dages]

Jehovah using AI would be convenient, AI has no free will so Jehovah can control it very easily without any moral issue

[JennyM]

22 minutes ago, computerwiz said:

Had some shower thoughts about how the end will come about.  🤔  Just an idea....but follow this thinking:

 

Question posed to AI:

 

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When Jehovah brought about the 12 plagues on Egypt, he picked specific plagues to humiliate the Egyptian gods. When Babylon got overthrown, it was their own stupid fault for leaving the gates open and not paying attention. When Alexander the Great met his demise, it was from a disease delivered by a silly little mosquito. When Jehovah takes down the haughty, he does so with style and in a way that seems to humiliate them. Any other examples like this from the scriptures?

 

I know the "mosquito" example may not have come from Jehovah, but just keep following the thought process for now...

 

AI's response:

 

 

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Yes. A recurring theme in the Scriptures is that Jehovah often uses the very thing people trust in, boast about, or misuse as the instrument of their downfall. The result is not merely defeat—it exposes their arrogance and demonstrates that no human, nation, false god, or military power can stand against him.

Here are several examples:

Goliath was beheaded with his own sword

Goliath came out armed like an unstoppable champion. He mocked Jehovah and trusted completely in his size, armor, and weapons.

Yet Jehovah allowed a shepherd boy with a sling to bring him down. Then David used Goliath's own sword to cut off his head. (1 Samuel 17:50, 51)

The giant's prized weapon became a trophy of his humiliation.

---

Haman died on the stake he built

Haman constructed a 50-cubit-high stake intending to publicly disgrace Mordecai.

Instead, the king ordered Haman himself to be executed on that very stake. (Esther 7:9, 10)

The instrument of his planned triumph became the instrument of his disgrace.

---

Pharaoh's army drowned in the sea they thought they had conquered

Pharaoh saw the parted sea as an opportunity to finish off Israel.

The Egyptians followed Israel into the seabed, convinced victory was within reach. Then the waters returned and destroyed them. (Exodus 14:23-28)

The path that appeared to guarantee success became their grave.

---

Absalom was caught by the thing that made him famous

Absalom was renowned for his handsome appearance and magnificent hair. (2 Samuel 14:25, 26)

During his rebellion against David, his head became entangled in a large tree, leaving him hanging helplessly while his mule ran on. (2 Samuel 18:9)

The feature that contributed to his pride became associated with his downfall.

---

Sisera was defeated by someone he never considered a threat

Sisera commanded 900 iron war chariots and terrorized Israel for years.

After fleeing the battlefield, exhausted and vulnerable, he sought refuge in a tent. There he was killed by Jael, using an ordinary tent peg. (Judges 4:17-22)

A feared general was brought down not by another general but by a woman using household tools.

---

Nebuchadnezzar became like a beast

Nebuchadnezzar II stood on his palace roof admiring "Great Babylon" and crediting himself for its greatness. (Daniel 4:30)

Immediately afterward, he lost his sanity and lived like an animal until he acknowledged Jehovah's sovereignty. (Daniel 4:31-33)

The king who exalted himself above everyone else was reduced below ordinary human society.

---

Belshazzar lost Babylon while celebrating Babylon's greatness

Belshazzar held a lavish feast, drank wine from vessels taken from Jehovah's temple, and praised Babylonian gods.

That same night Babylon fell. (Daniel 5:1-5, 30)

The celebration of his security became the setting for his judgment.

This one especially fits your observation. Babylon's walls were legendary. Its rulers felt untouchable. Yet while they feasted, the enemy entered the city.

---

Herod accepted divine honors and was struck down

Herod Agrippa I delivered a speech, and the crowd shouted: "The voice of a god, and not of a man!"

Instead of correcting them, he accepted the praise. Immediately he was struck and later died. (Acts 12:21-23)

The moment of maximum public glory became the moment of judgment.

---

The Assyrian army was destroyed without a battle

Sennacherib mocked Jehovah and boasted that no god had been able to stop Assyria.

Rather than a great military showdown, a single angel struck down 185,000 Assyrian soldiers in one night. (2 Kings 19:35)

The empire that specialized in military intimidation was defeated without a battle.

---

The pattern

A pattern emerges throughout Scripture:

• Pharaoh trusted Egypt and its gods.
• Goliath trusted weapons and strength.
• Haman trusted political power.
• Absalom trusted his appearance.
• Nebuchadnezzar trusted his achievements.
• Belshazzar trusted Babylon's defenses.
• Herod trusted public admiration.

Jehovah often chooses a method that exposes the emptiness of the very thing they trusted in.

That seems consistent with the principle found at Proverbs 16:18:

"Pride is before a crash, And a haughty spirit before stumbling."

The crash is often more than a defeat—it becomes a lesson that reveals exactly where the proud person's confidence was misplaced.

 

 

 

So...we have the pattern.  We have the precedence.

 

With that in mind...here's MY thought:

 

  Hide contents

Mankind's greatest achievement: Artificial Intelligence

If the pattern seen throughout Scripture continues, it would not be surprising if humanity's greatest source of confidence became a source of humiliation.

 

Today many place extraordinary trust in artificial intelligence, automation, surveillance systems, and advanced robotics, believing that human ingenuity can solve virtually any problem. If Jehovah chooses to expose the limits of human rulership, he could do so in a way that demonstrates that even the most sophisticated technology is powerless to preserve a system he has judged. Much like Babylon's walls, Egypt's gods, or Goliath's weapons, the very things people trust in most could end up highlighting how completely human efforts fall short when confronted with Jehovah's purpose.

 

Being an achievement that is WORLDWIDE, it is a fitting choice to be what Jehovah uses to humiliate the human race (those alienated from God) and showing the failure of humans trying to live apart from God.

 

The extent of that humiliation remains to be seen.  But I think that's the path humanity is going to walk down... 🤔

 

And to have the wicked wiped out by their own machines?.....quite poetic, methinks.

 

 

 

Guess we'll just have to wait and see....  

 

Make sense. Ai really is intellegent. Amazing.

 

Hmmm. Will I use it for personal study? But i will stick to insight of the scriptures and jw library 

 

 

I hope we have AI jw library. 

 

[Dages]

56 minutes ago, JennyM said:

I hope we have AI jw library. 

You can ask AI to use only JW.org and the WOL as a global rule.