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33 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

Except raining money.

Except raining chocolate 😉

 

Anyway, all of this is certainly making me and many others actually feel less secure not more.

 

I do hope an end is soon - both to this needless killing and .... Well, all needless killing as the Kingdom has taken full control of all of Earth's affairs :pray:

 

May it come soon!

Plan ahead as if Armageddon will not come in your lifetime, but lead your life as if it will come tomorrow (w 2004 Dec. 1 page 29)

 

 

 

 

Soon .....

 

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10 minutes ago, trottigy said:

Except raining chocolate 😉

 

Anyway, all of this is certainly making me and many others actually feel less secure not more.

 

I do hope an end is soon - both to this needless killing and .... Well, all needless killing as the Kingdom has taken full control of all of Earth's affairs :pray:

 

May it come soon!

Yes, no raining chocolate 😅. Well said, the suffering world wide is horrible, heart breaking and extremely upsetting. May Jah's Kingdom come soon. 😃

 

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1 hour ago, Sofia said:

Not peace 

but a stronger KOTN .

It is clear that they support each other, and strengthen their "opposition" to the King of the South. 

Truly KOTN and it's allies press hard for world dominance. 

 

Having said that, Peace and Security will be proclaimed, and sudden change of events can trigger this unexpectedly and faster than we think.  

 

Nothing is constant and stable in this system.

What is her today, is gone tomorrow. 

 

Man was created as an intelligent creature with the desire to explore and understand :)

 

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“MAKE SURE OF ALL THINGS”

15. How can we avoid being fooled by misinformation and demonic propaganda? (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

15 In the near future, God’s opposers will in some sense declare: “Peace and security!” (1 Thess. 5:3) Demon-inspired propaganda will fill the earth, misleading most. (Rev. 16:13, 14) What about us? We will not be fooled if we “make sure of [or, “test”] all things.” (Read 1 Thessalonians 5:21; see study notes.) The Greek word rendered “make sure of” was used in connection with testing precious metals. Thus, we need to test what we hear or what we read to determine whether it is genuine. That was important for the Thessalonians, and it will be even more important for us as the great tribulation approaches. Instead of naively accepting what others say, we use our thinking ability to compare what we read or what we hear with what the Bible and Jehovah’s organization say. In doing so, we will not be fooled by any demonic propaganda or trickery.—Prov. 14:15; 1 Tim. 4:1.

16. What sure hope do we have, and what are we moved to do?

16 As a group, God’s servants will survive the great tribulation. Individually, though, we do not know what tomorrow will bring. (Jas. 4:14) Still, whether we live through the great tribulation or die before then, we will be rewarded with everlasting life if we remain faithful. The anointed will be with Christ in heaven. The other sheep will be on a paradise earth. May we all focus on our wonderful hope and keep ready for Jehovah’s day!

 

Quoted from W study edition june/23 study article #26

Eph. 3:20 “Now to the one who can, according to his power that is operating in us, do more than superabundantly beyond all the things we ask or conceive”

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Let's keep preaching the good news, and warning people of what will happen, let's not believe in political promises , we are not going to intimately support some political side that uses demonstrations for their interests, we are not going to believe in the declaration or declarations of peace and security, it is not up to man to direct his own pace, let's stay focused on the Kingdom of God 

Kenneth Cook, Jr.: Avoid Deception, and Follow the Kingdom (Jer. 10:23)

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/VODPgmEvtMorningWorship/pub-jwb-092_14_VIDEO

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4 hours ago, Loyal said:

Let's keep preaching the good news, and warning people of what will happen, let's not believe in political promises , we are not going to intimately support some political side that uses demonstrations for their interests, we are not going to believe in the declaration or declarations of peace and security, it is not up to man to direct his own pace, let's stay focused on the Kingdom of God 

Kenneth Cook, Jr.: Avoid Deception, and Follow the Kingdom (Jer. 10:23)

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/VODPgmEvtMorningWorship/pub-jwb-092_14_VIDEO

That talk sounds like the declaration of peace and security is so near to me. 

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On 3/22/2023 at 9:10 AM, Loyal said:

 

In the Daily Mail today, it's reported that Xi and Putin have negotiated a safe haven for Putin in the event he is deposed.

 

"It is suspected that should he be deposed the Russian leader would shelter in China with a non-extradition agreement in place, meaning China would not send him abroad to face trial over charges of war crimes committed during his invasion.

Some analysts have also interpreted the meeting as a demonstration that Xi has greater power in the relationship, with Beijing having helped bail Russia out from under Western sanctions imposed on Moscow's economy following the invasion."

 

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People had strokes and heart attacks before vaccine

BTW, Those in Bethel had vaccine, therefore by your calculations half of them, including members of GB would be out of action right now. 
Is this a case though? 


Hm, in the German Bethel Selters a speaker said in a Meeting: „we have had some deaths in the past… And they are suddenly and not to be expected.“
For the original Text, I must check back, but the words suddenly and not to be expected are definitely in the speach.
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We have marveled at how timely our Watchtowers and AWAKES! can be  -  subjects that are current headlines in the mainstream media.

 

Well, I'm thinking about the latest breaking news regarding Trump.  For the first time, a former President will be arrested and stand trial.  It is considered by many sensible people to be a persecution, not a prosecution.

 

With that drama going on,  how timely of us to be inviting the public to the special talk : You Can Face the Future With Confidence!

 

The chariot !!!!!

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Doug said:

Well, I'm thinking about the latest breaking news regarding Trump.  For the first time, a former President will be arrested and stand trial.  It is considered by many sensible people to be a persecution, not a prosecution

That is a huge issue for the world but its minutiae for us. It's just part of a bigger issue that we already know about. 

CAUTION: The comments above may contain personal opinion, speculation, inaccurate information, sarcasm, wit, satire or humor, let the reader use discernment...:D

 

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2 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

That is a huge issue for the world but its minutiae for us. It's just part of a bigger issue that we already know about. 

 

My point.    (tu)     They need to know they can face the future with confidence as they watch their world go off the cliff.

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I don't think it's big. Politicians being arrested and having a criminal file? It's quite usual in the resume here in France :D

 

As we say, in France, it's ok for politicians to have an immoral lifestyle but beware if you are rich and misuse money. And in America, it's the opposite :D

 


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5 hours ago, Tortuga said:

That is a huge issue for the world but its minutiae for us. It's just part of a bigger issue that we already know about. 

I would not even call this big issue. 

Here in Australia we have read the news, shook the head and moved on. 
No issue that impacts our daily life. 
You have summed up nicely … that it is a part of “ bigger issue” that human ruleship simply does not work, and it’s tainted by corruption. (Added my comments to your quote) 


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Man was created as an intelligent creature with the desire to explore and understand :)

 

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He has the potential to cause a ruckus, as his minions who follow him blindly have shown on Jan 6. I think that is something that’s quite important to note.

 

So far, in democratic lands, there hasn’t been a storming of the seat of government that I can remember. Even if it doesn’t happen with Trump supporters going wild at his “persecution”/prosecution, they’ve shown what can be done. And we know how quickly things can change in this secular world as it fulfils prophecy - a lot more “agitation of the sea” before the end.

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This is interesting: https://www.dw.com/en/russia-adopts-new-anti-west-foreign-policy-strategy/a-65198660

 

Putin Reassured USA as a formal enemy 

Putin as reassured China and India as formal allies

 

The document also clearly states for the first time that the Russian Federation is in fact the "legal heir" of the Soviet Union.

This has several implications, like reasuring it´s legal right to be part of UN and Security Council; also it´s not strange if The russian federation decides to assume as their territory more independent countries Ex-URSS like Bielorussia.

Eph. 3:20 “Now to the one who can, according to his power that is operating in us, do more than superabundantly beyond all the things we ask or conceive”

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1 hour ago, Sofia said:

Putin as reassured China and India as formal allies

If we examine diplomatic dealings of India in relation to Russia or previous Soviet Union.

We find that both "supported each other" for decades. 

So no surprise there :)

 

In 1956, for example, India refrained from publicly condemning the Soviet Union’s violent suppression of the Hungarian revolution – this despite India’s then Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru being critical of Moscow’s actions in private.

More than a decade later, in 1968, when Soviet forces invaded Czechoslovakia to crush the Prague Spring, then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi gave a disapproving speech in the lower house of the Indian parliament but refrained from criticising Moscow on an international platform. India abstained from a subsequent vote on a resolution condemning the invasion.

When the Soviet Union entered Afghanistan in 1979 to prop up the new pro-Soviet regime, many in India – including Prime Minister Charan Singh – strongly opposed the invasion. However, having been the beneficiary of many Soviet vetoes across the decades, India once again abstained from voting in the UN General Assembly resolution condemning the Soviet Union. It was the only non-aligned country to do so.https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/3/14/why-is-istandwithputin-trending-in

 

 

 
 

Man was created as an intelligent creature with the desire to explore and understand :)

 

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The generation wont pass away when the great tribulation comes.  Bro Franz was the youngest of the first generation. 

He died in 1992 at age  of 99.  

Some of the 2nd group of the generation have already died.. We are not far when the peace and security will be declared. 


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It's impressive how the world is in a big mess, there are many disorders, many fights, several events that frighten, as crime has increased, food is very expensive,being with the brothers in the preaching and meetings is a relief, it is a real protection, may the Kingdom come quickly 

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