Gage Fleegle: Jehovah Organises His People

[Parale]

Gage Fleegle: Jehovah Organises His People

 

This is a new video that replaces the previous video (with Anthony Morris) in Lesson 54 of the Enjoy Life Forever! book!

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/StudioTalks/pub-lffv_545_VIDEO

 

For more information see also:

https://jwtalk.net/topic/52083-cbs-enjoy-life-forever/page/8/#comment-936602

 

 

Transcript: Gage Fleegle: Jehovah Organises His People

Jehovah Organises His People Gage Fleegle - Governing Body Have you ever heard someone say: “I’m not religious, but I am spiritual” or “I don’t need to belong to a religion; I worship God in my own way”? Many people believe that they don’t need to be associated with a specific religious organisation — that it’s good enough simply to have a personal relationship with God. It’s not surprising that they feel that way. Many religious organisations have promoted false worship. They’ve mistreated their followers or demanded large sums of money from them and tolerated or even promoted conduct that the Bible condemns. Of course, it’s the fruitage of those organisations that’s bad, not the fact that they are organised. But we might still ask, ‘Does Jehovah want his people to be organised?’ What does his Word say? The Bible reveals that the early Christians were organised. Consider what’s recorded in Acts chapter 15. An issue arose — an issue involving doctrine, or belief, that caused disagreement among those in the congregation. How would they settle that issue? Did they conclude that it was enough for each Christian to have his own relationship with God and for each person to believe what he personally wanted? No. That would have divided the young Christian congregation, which at this point was less than 20 years old. At Acts 15:2, we read: “But after quite a bit of dissension and disputing by Paul and Barnabas with them, it was arranged for Paul, Barnabas, and some of the others to go up to the apostles and elders in Jerusalem regarding this issue.” The apostles and elders in Jerusalem made a decision that resolved the issue. Thereafter, they made their decision known to the congregations. This helped to restore peace and unity. That wasn’t an exceptional case. Sometime later, the apostle Paul and Timothy visited the congregations. What did they accomplish? Acts 16:4 says: “As they traveled on through the cities, they would deliver to them for observance the decrees that had been decided on by the apostles and the elders who were in Jerusalem.” The apostles and elders in Jerusalem consistently provided spiritual food, direction, and practical help for God’s people in the first century. They acted as a governing body. What was the result of such organisation? Note the next verse. It says: “Then, indeed, the congregations continued to be made firm in the faith and to increase in number day by day.” That organisation in the first century helped the early Christians to be united, productive, and happy. In like manner, Jehovah’s people today are organised. This reflects Jehovah’s personality. First Corinthians chapter 14, verses 33 and 40 says in part: “God is a God not of disorder but of peace... Let all things take place decently and by arrangement.” Think about it: Organisation really helps us to fulfill Jehovah’s requirements for true worship. Consider five examples. First, we must be organised to meet together for worship. How could we do so if we didn’t know one another, didn’t have designated places and times to gather together, and didn’t have a scheduled program for each meeting? Second, we must be organised to be united in belief. All of us receive the same instruction at congregation meetings, assemblies, and conventions, and we’re helped to understand the Scriptures through Bible-based publications and videos. These provisions require organisation, and they help us to worship unitedly and, as 1 Corinthians 1:10 counsels us, to “speak in agreement.” Third, we must be organised to form a worldwide brotherhood. First Peter 2:17 reminds us that we belong to an “association of brothers.” If we weren’t organised, how could we even identify those who are truly part of our spiritual family? Fourth, we must be organised to preach the good news to people of different nations, tribes, and languages. How could we possibly declare the Kingdom message thoroughly and effectively if we weren’t associated with an organisation? Fifth, we must be organised to provide disaster relief. Just as the early Christians had an arrangement to supply financial aid to their needy brothers and sisters in other lands, so we are organised to help our brothers and sisters as soon as possible after a disaster, disease outbreak, or other emergency. As was the case in the first century, the Governing Body today provides spiritual food, direction, and practical help for God’s people around the world. Jesus has appointed that Governing Body to be “the faithful and discreet slave.” How grateful we are that Jehovah, through our Leader, Jesus Christ, has organised us so that we can do God’s will as a united brotherhood!

 

Edited July 27, 2023 by Parale

[Parale]

Reposted, as there seems to be an issue with 'dark-mode'

 

Jehovah Organises His People Gage Fleegle Governing Body Have you ever heard someone say: “I’m not religious, but I am spiritual” or “I don’t need to belong to a religion; I worship God in my own way”? Many people believe that they don’t need to be associated with a specific religious organisation — that it’s good enough simply to have a personal relationship with God. It’s not surprising that they feel that way. Many religious organisations have promoted false worship. They’ve mistreated their followers or demanded large sums of money from them and tolerated or even promoted conduct that the Bible condemns. Of course, it’s the fruitage of those organisations that’s bad, not the fact that they are organised. But we might still ask, ‘Does Jehovah want his people to be organised?’ What does his Word say? The Bible reveals that the early Christians were organised. Consider what’s recorded in Acts chapter 15. An issue arose — an issue involving doctrine, or belief, that caused disagreement among those in the congregation. How would they settle that issue? Did they conclude that it was enough for each Christian to have his own relationship with God and for each person to believe what he personally wanted? No. That would have divided the young Christian congregation, which at this point was less than 20 years old. At Acts 15:2, we read: “But after quite a bit of dissension and disputing by Paul and Barnabas with them, it was arranged for Paul, Barnabas, and some of the others to go up to the apostles and elders in Jerusalem regarding this issue.” The apostles and elders in Jerusalem made a decision that resolved the issue. Thereafter, they made their decision known to the congregations. This helped to restore peace and unity. That wasn’t an exceptional case. Sometime later, the apostle Paul and Timothy visited the congregations. What did they accomplish? Acts 16:4 says: “As they traveled on through the cities, they would deliver to them for observance the decrees that had been decided on by the apostles and the elders who were in Jerusalem.” The apostles and elders in Jerusalem consistently provided spiritual food, direction, and practical help for God’s people in the first century. They acted as a governing body. What was the result of such organisation? Note the next verse. It says: “Then, indeed, the congregations continued to be made firm in the faith and to increase in number day by day.” That organisation in the first century helped the early Christians to be united, productive, and happy. In like manner, Jehovah’s people today are organised. This reflects Jehovah’s personality. First Corinthians chapter 14, verses 33 and 40 says in part: “God is a God not of disorder but of peace... Let all things take place decently and by arrangement.” Think about it: Organisation really helps us to fulfill Jehovah’s requirements for true worship. Consider five examples. First, we must be organised to meet together for worship. How could we do so if we didn’t know one another, didn’t have designated places and times to gather together, and didn’t have a scheduled program for each meeting? Second, we must be organised to be united in belief. All of us receive the same instruction at congregation meetings, assemblies, and conventions, and we’re helped to understand the Scriptures through Bible-based publications and videos. These provisions require organisation, and they help us to worship unitedly and, as 1 Corinthians 1:10 counsels us, to “speak in agreement.” Third, we must be organised to form a worldwide brotherhood. First Peter 2:17 reminds us that we belong to an “association of brothers.” If we weren’t organised, how could we even identify those who are truly part of our spiritual family? Fourth, we must be organised to preach the good news to people of different nations, tribes, and languages. How could we possibly declare the Kingdom message thoroughly and effectively if we weren’t associated with an organisation? Fifth, we must be organised to provide disaster relief. Just as the early Christians had an arrangement to supply financial aid to their needy brothers and sisters in other lands, so we are organised to help our brothers and sisters as soon as possible after a disaster, disease outbreak, or other emergency. As was the case in the first century, the Governing Body today provides spiritual food, direction, and practical help for God’s people around the world. Jesus has appointed that Governing Body to be “the faithful and discreet slave.” How grateful we are that Jehovah, through our Leader, Jesus Christ, has organised us so that we can do God’s will as a united brotherhood!

 

[Hope]

interesting...

[Parale]

For those wishing to print out the transcript - here is a PDF, formatted to be printed as an A5 booklet using A4 paper, or simply full-size on A4 paper, if you like a larger text size

 

The A5 booklet works well size-wise to slip into the Enjoy Life Forever! publication

 

Jehovah Organises His People.pdf

 

 

Edited July 28, 2023 by Parale

[Hope]

are there any differences in the talk?

[Parale]

31 minutes ago, Hope said:

are there any differences in the talk?

 

The new talk is somewhat shorter at 6 minutes and 18 seconds, compared to 9 minutes 23 seconds, and IMHO more direct.

 

The original talk, as given my Anthony Morris, was originally published in July 2017 - probably before the Enjoy Life Forever! book was planned? Therefore it was 'fittted' into the new book, where as the new talk, as given by Gage Fleegle, appears to have especially written and filmed specifically for use in this Lesson of the Enjoy Life Forever! publication. Though, rather than actual content, I suspect that it is more an issue with the speaker - understandably: In a lesson dealing with 'the faithful and discreet slave' AKA the Governing Body - it was evidently felt to be better, and more appropriate, to replace the original video featuring a former member of the Governing Body with a new video featuring a current member of the Governing Body. (And the original video is still available on jw.org, it's just been replaced for this specific lesson).

 

Original Video: Anthony Morris: We Need an Organization

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/pub-lffv_542_VIDEO

 

TRANSCRIPT:

We Need an Organisation.pdf

 

 

In addition Anthony Morris' talk is also available on JW.org in a longer 13 minute and 54 second version here:

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/StudioTalks/pub-jwb_201707_2_VIDEO

 

And in it's original setting of the July 2017 JW Monthly Broadcast here:

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/StudioTalks/pub-jwb_201707_2_VIDEO

 

 

Edited July 28, 2023 by Parale

[Jwanon]

17 hours ago, Parale said:

In addition Anthony Morris' talk is also available on JW.org in a longer 13 minute and 54 second version here:

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/StudioTalks/pub-jwb_201707_2_VIDEO

 

And in it's original setting of the July 2017 JW Monthly Broadcast here:

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/StudioTalks/pub-jwb_201707_2_VIDEO

 

 

You posted the same link twice

[Parale]

On 7/29/2023 at 1:41 PM, Jwanon said:

You posted the same link twice

 

Opps, sorry. Here is the link on JW.org of the complete July 2017 JW Monthly Broadcast as hosted by Bro Anthony Morris which includes his talk "We Need an Organisation."

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/StudioMonthlyPrograms/pub-jwb_201707_1_VIDEO

[pholmes38]

On 7/27/2023 at 6:38 PM, Parale said:

Gage Fleegle: Jehovah Organises His People

 

This is a new video that replaces the previous video (with Anthony Morris) in Lesson 54 of the Enjoy Life Forever! book!

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/StudioTalks/pub-lffv_545_VIDEO

 

For more information see also:

https://jwtalk.net/topic/52083-cbs-enjoy-life-forever/page/8/#comment-936602

 

 

With chapter 54 imminent for the congregation study, that is perhaps why we have been directed to ensure we have the very latest book update (July 2023 edition)

[sis little]

On 7/27/2023 at 5:17 PM, Parale said: