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Mexico: Jehovah's Witness Family Murdered over 'Dog Fight Gambling Debt' in Ciudad Juarez

www.ibtimes.co.uk/.../jehovah-witness-mexico-fami...‎

 

 

Chihuahua police have arrested two suspects for the killing of a family of eight who was stabbed to death in the northern Mexico border city of Ciudad Juarez.

Jorge Gonzalez Nicolas, general prosecutor for Chihuahua, said that authorities are also looking for a third suspect.

The motive behind the brutal killing is debt for dog fight gambling, according to authorities, although the exact amount of the debt is still unknown.

The two arrested, both employees for a textile factory, were identified as Jesus N. and Edgar N.

Gonzalez confirmed early suggestions that the family knew their killers - in fact they opened the door for them due to a "common friendship".

No signs of forced entry into the house have been found and the knife used for the murder was allegedly from the kitchen. The victims, who included two 4-year-olds (Abril Romero and Valeria Lara Castañeda) and a 6-year-old (Daniel Romero Castañeda), were found with tape over their mouths and their hands tied. The oldest, named as María del Carmen Morales Infante, was aged 60.

In total two men, three women and three children were slaughtered. A three-month-old girl in the house was found alive.

One of the victims, Maximo Martin Romero Sánchez - nicknamed Max - aged 27, sold used cars at his home and may have had cash with him at the time of the killing.

The eight were found on Sunday morning after they did not attend a Jehovah's Witness meeting and congregation members became concerned.

Ciudad Juarez, across the border from El Paso in Texas, was considered the world's most violent city due to a bloody war among drug cartels.

However, the murder rate has declined since President Enrique Pena Nieto was elected last December. According to federal statistics, homicides increased in 2010 to a peak of 3,900 and have dropped to 1,134 in the first nine months of this year.

Around 10,000 people have been killed in the city since 2006.

In September, a gang of gunmen killed 10 people, including a six-year-old girl, in the area.

Ciudad Juarez is also known as Mexico's "city of dogs" with a total of 200,000 stray dogs - German shepherds, Labradors and the poodle - roaming its streets.

Every month, around 700 dogs are found dead on city streets, killed by hunger, car tyres or execution.

 

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Link added - http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/523822/20131120/jehovah-witness-arrested-gambling-ciudad-juarez-mexico.htm

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This just came out 4 hours ago from the San Diego News:

 

Suspect says he participated in Mexico massacre
By N CARLOS LLORCA Associated Press 7:35 a.m.Nov. 20, 2013

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Jehova's Witness church elder Daniel Sierra delivers the eulogy for four of eight family members who were murdered on Sunday at Kingdom Hall in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, Wednesday, Nov. 20, 2013. One of the suspects in the brutal stabbing deaths of a family of eight in this border city told journalists Wednesday that he stood guard outside the home as a second man detained in the case stabbed the victims to death in a dispute over a 1,500-peso ($115) dog-breeding debt. (AP Photo/Juan Carlos Llorca) The Associated Press

CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) — One of the suspects in the brutal stabbing deaths of a family of eight in this border city told journalists Wednesday that he stood guard outside the home as a second man detained in the case stabbed the victims to death in a dispute over a 1,500-peso ($115) dog-breeding debt.

 

The shocking details of Sunday's massacre, and widespread lack of confidence in the justice system of Ciudad Juarez over suspicions that confessions have been tortured from innocent people, led prosecutors to present the two men in custody to the press and allow journalists to ask them questions.

 

Neither appeared physically mistreated, but only one of them, Jesus Mendoza Hernandez, 21, spoke to reporters. He said the other suspect, Edgar Lujan Guevara, 31, was the one who actually carried out the killings.

 

"I was guarding the door, but I didn't kill anybody," Mendoza Hernandez said.  He said the two had gone to the family's home a month ago to collect a debt that he said was owed by Maximo Romero Sanchez, the head of the family, for a stud fee for his dog. At that time, Romero Sanchez said he didn't have the money, Mendoza Hernandez said.

 

When the suspects returned Sunday seeking to collect and Romero Sanchez once again told them he didn't have the money, the family members were stabbed to death, assistant state prosecutor Enrique Villarreal Macias said.

 

Mendoza Hernandez told reporters he heard screaming at one point, went inside and saw Romero Sanchez and one woman dead. He said at that point he took 2,500 pesos ($192) from the pockets and purses of people at the home and then left.

Villarreal Macias said two other suspects, still at large, also participated in the killings, piling the corpses of three young children atop those of five adults on beds in the home.

 

Mendoza Hernandez said that he and Lujan Guevara acted alone.  Earlier in the day, prosecutors suggested the killings were over a debt related to dog fighting, not dog breeding.  There was no clear explanation why the young children were killed, although prosecutors speculated that because the suspects lived nearby and one of them knew the family, they may have feared the children could identify them.

 

Earlier in the day, the chief prosecutor in the northern state of Chihuahua, Jorge Gonzalez Nicolas, said that "the situation got out of control and that's why they killed them." He said the killers took money and three vehicles from the property.  Chihuahua Gov. Cesar Duarte told local media that the government would seek life sentences for the killers if convicted. While life sentences are rare in Mexico, in 2010 the Chihuahua state legislature approved a law introducing life imprisonment for certain murder cases, including multiple murders or torturing victims before killing them.

Dozens of friends and relatives of the two suspects demonstrated late Tuesday outside the prosecutors' offices in Ciudad Juarez, claiming authorities had detained innocent men in their rush to prosecute.

 

"The people you have behind bars are innocent! Do your job!" the crowd chanted.

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Funeral service for only 4 of the 8 - interesting.

No matter what happened, this is terrible news and a stark reminder of who still rules this world. May his reign of terror end soon and God's Kingdom usher in true righteousness!

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Thanks for the clarification Lisa...These murders are horrific, but at least Jehovah's name

is cleared of reproach..it was a business debt, not a gambling debt.,.

Yes, were all glad that Jehovah's name was not reproached.   It was a business deal, but why did they have to butcher the family?  The people are sick, and mentally diseased who did this, and did you read the last part (when they caught two of the murderers) "he did nothing wrong, he stood outside." Well, I don't know how Mexican authorities view this, but its aiding and abiding.  Your just as guilty, cause you knew what they were going to do.  It had to be planned and not a spur of a moment thought.    Just so sad. 

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The people in that city/town have just become so used to and immune to the way of violence - it is a way of life.  They did not want to leave any one behind that could identify them since they were neighbors, but it did not help - they were caught anyway - so Jehovah is not letting them get away with it by allowing the local authorities to catch them.

 

Another reason to not go into debt to people - even though you know them (but especially if you don't know them) for any reason because they can get upset when you don't pay them and it can result in such a tragic end.

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It's demonistic. Talk about senseless violence. This is why we are not to entertain ourselves with it. Because it exists. We have brothers and sisters still in that city. Please be careful. We need to pray for them, and our other dear friends who may be in areas where life has very little value. And we need to continue to pray for the Kingdom to come. That is the only way this craziness will end. The only way.

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