New World Translation (2013 revision) in additional languages

[Thesauron]

What’s your first impressions of the new German Bible?

[Thesauron]

5 hours ago, Bek said:

Wow, great news! Happy for our German‐speaking brothers.
 
Was "Die Bibel" before on the cover or did it just say nwt holy scriptures on German?
 
 

It’s the common name on newer editions, these days. The Swedish Edition is called the New World Translation of the Bible, which circumvents the argument from some that we do not call our translation a Bible.


 

Edited February 2, 2019 by Thesauron

[ChocoBro]

45 minutes ago, Thesauron said:

What’s your first impressions of the new German Bible?

 

Wonderful how the passages were simplified into a more fluent, modern language.

[KingDavid]

Gerrit Lösch: "Reading the Daily Text is not the same as reading the Bible. It's just reading the Daily Text. What does it mean to read the Bible daily? It means reading the Bible daily"

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[Skye]

3 hours ago, ChocoBro said:

The best part, by the way, was "Ezekiel, 19"

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[KingDavid]

Gerrit Lösch (I hope I translated him understandably):

"Suppose a smoker wants to smoke his goodnight cigarette in bed in the evening, but finds that there is none left. What does a good smoker do then? Would he say to himself, "Then I'll smoke an additional cigarette tomorrow"? No, he dresses and goes to a shop or a vending machine. That's how we should handle Bible reading."

"Falling asleep while smoking can be fatal, by the way. Falling asleep while reading the Bible is not a big problem. As long as it doesn't happen every day. It's not a sign of little appreciation, Jehovah won't hold it against us. It is a sign that we really tried!"


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[Thesauron]

Gerrit Lösch: "Reading the Daily Text is not the same as reading the Bible. It's just reading the Daily Text. What does it mean to read the Bible daily? It means reading the Bible daily"

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A lot of people here in Sweden are just now coming off their first one year bible reading schedule, and it’s amazing to see how a Bible that is easier to understand changes people. They finally get some really difficult passages, and it affects them positively.

[Thesauron]

 
Wonderful how the passages were simplified into a more fluent, modern language.

Do you have any good examples?

[Bek]

28 minutes ago, KingDavid said:

Gerrit Lösch (I hope I translated him understandably):

"Suppose a smoker wants to smoke his goodnight cigarette in bed in the evening, but finds that there is none left. What does a good smoker do then? Would he say to himself, "Then I'll smoke an additional cigarette tomorrow"? No, he dresses and goes to a shop or a vending machine. That's how we should handle Bible reading."

"Falling asleep while smoking can be fatal, by the way. Falling asleep while reading the Bible is not a big problem. As long as it doesn't happen every day. It's not a sign of little appreciation, Jehovah won't hold it against us. It is a sign that we really tried!"


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Very good illustrations! 

 

The first one drives it home for me since I used to smoke and I remember going out at night in search of a bedtime cig. The addiction is so strong that you are not your own man. 

 

So he is suggesting in a positive way that we should become addicted to Bible reading.

 

[KingDavid]

Very good illustrations! 
 
The first one drives it home for me since I used to smoke and I remember going out at night in search of a bedtime cig. The addiction is so strong that you are not your own man. 
 
So he is suggesting in a positive way that we should become addicted to Bible reading.
 

Addicted to Bible reading, well said Brother Lösch said he smoked himself a long time ago.

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[BenGo]

We started with our daily family bible reading right away.

I didn't know my 8 year old daughter enjoys so much reading the bible herself! 🙂

 

She had shining eyes when she got her very own bible today!

 

[Rochelle]

What a happy crowd...

[Thesauron]

Have you looked up your favourite scriptures yet to get a whiff of the new language?

[ChocoBro]

4 hours ago, Thesauron said:

Do you have any good examples?

The Bible reading from this years 3-day-convention immediately springs to mind. Much nicer to hear the words than to read along, it was simply more fluid.

 

One that I can remember Brother Lösch mentioned is

 

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Denn er selbst kennt unser Gebilde wohl, ist eingedenk dessen, daß wir Staub sind.

Is now

Quote

Denn er kennt unsere Beschaffenheit nur zu gut, er denkt daran, dass wir Staub sind.

Long words like "er selbst" ("he himself") have been shortened to "he"

 

Nobody would ever say he is "eingedenk dessen", ("it is beknownst to him") it's antiquated beyond limits, nobody would ever use that expression in Germany. "Er denkt" simply means "He knows"

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Long words like "er selbst" ("he himself") have been shortened to "he"
 
Nobody would ever say he is "eingedenk dessen", ("it is beknownst to him") it's antiquated beyond limits, nobody would ever use that expression in Germany. "Er denkt" simply means "He knows"

Did they get rid of the 'Scharfes S'? (zum beispiel dass?)

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[Skye]

My favorite verse compared in the old and new versions....it is waaaaay simpler!

 

 

[Skye]

The redundant wording is gone! It is simpler for non-native German speakers (like me) to understand the reading.

[KingDavid]

Did they get rid of the 'Scharfes S'? (zum beispiel dass?)

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After a short vowel follows, according to the new German spelling rules from 1996, now a double s (ss), instead of a sharp S (or Eszett / ß).
For example: Fluss, nass, dass (In the case it means "so that". But the article "das" (means "the") remains an exception )

After a long vowel or a double sound (au, äu, ei, eu) follows a sharp S. So it didn't fall away.
For example: Spaß, Fleiß...

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[ChocoBro]

4 hours ago, TonyWenz said:

Did they get rid of the 'Scharfes S'? (zum beispiel dass?)

Just Older
 

This is due to several spelling reforms that took place in the past years, I guess that's an additional reason the revised version took a little longer.

 

Some words, words with a short vowel, no longer have the ß

Examples: daß => dass ; Schloß = Schloss ; Maße = Masse (mass)

 

Words that have a long, drawn out vowel are still written with ß

Examples: Schoß ; groß ; Maße = Maße (dimensions)

 

You'd think the Germans, with their history, would never go back to bringing back the SS

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[Skye]

2 minutes ago, ChocoBro said:

You'd think the Germans, with their history, would never go back to bringing back the SS 

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[KingDavid]

 
You'd think the Germans, with their history, would never go back to bringing back the SS

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[KingDavid]

I guess that's an additional reason the revised version took a little longer.

But there would fit many ss on 300 pages

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After a short vowel follows, according to the new German spelling rules from 1996, now a double s (ss), instead of a sharp S (or Eszett / ß).
For example: Fluss, nass, dass (In the case it means "so that". But the article "das" (means "the") remains an exception )

After a long vowel or a double sound (au, äu, ei, eu) follows a sharp S. So it didn't fall away.
For example: Spaß, Fleiß...

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I went to school in Austria in the 60's. So I remember the old way. We used the Eberfelder Bible with the old style characters and writing. I can still read it, but the language is soooo old and out of date... (bit like me...)

Tschuss

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[The Outcast]

Two Pictures with our new Bible.

[KingDavid]

I went to school in Austria in the 60's. So I remember the old way. We used the Eberfelder Bible with the old style characters and writing. I can still read it, but the language is soooo old and out of date... (bit like me...)

Tschuss

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Wow, you got a lot of exciting stories to tell. When did you leave Austria? The Elberfelder Bible was also in use for a long time in eastern Germany, because it contained the name of Jehovah in many places and was more easily available.

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