Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Dustparticle]

3 minutes ago, chuck83 said:

I guess nobody wanted to hedge into BTC(Bitcoin). Smart. Very smart.

 

No government backing. Unlike stocks, if it collapse you will not get a cent from the government.

[chuck83]

11 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

 

No government backing. Unlike stocks, if it collapse you will not get a cent from the government.

 

Interesting you say that, I wonder if the government has Chapter 11 bankruptcy for itself. He's had to restructure 6 different companies. Time will tell.

[trottigy]

18 hours ago, Dhanyel said:

Trump signs sweeping new global tariffs

https://edition.cnn.com/business/live-news/tariffs-trump-news-04-02-25/index.html

 

I noticed Russia is missing. 

 

"U.S. total goods trade with Russia were an estimated $3.5 billion in 2024. "

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/russia-and-eurasia/russia

 

Russia must be treating the US very well 

 

 

Edited April 3 by trottigy

[Sofia]

1 hour ago, trottigy said:

 

I noticed Russia is missing. 

 

"U.S. total goods trade with Russia were an estimated $3.5 billion in 2024. "

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/russia-and-eurasia/russia

 

Russia must be treating the US very well 

 

 

KOTN and KOTS seem to

be “together” now for a short period of time.(?)

last time it happened god s people was released from 75 years persecution in Soviet Union (1991/2)

and the time before that (1945) both set in place the United Nations 

Now lets hope that these “truce” mean they will give power to United Nations and fullfill more prophecies 

[Sofia]

1 hour ago, trottigy said:

 

I noticed Russia is missing. 

 

"U.S. total goods trade with Russia were an estimated $3.5 billion in 2024. "

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/russia-and-eurasia/russia

 

Russia must be treating the US very well 

 

 

This can crash world economy real bad 

which can be a reason for given power to UN to rule the world and to confiscate all riches from BTG.

🤔

[Dustparticle]

1 hour ago, Sofia said:

This can crash world economy real bad 

which can be a reason for given power to UN to rule the world and to confiscate all riches from BTG.

🤔

 

 Good points sis. Plus, you can read my mind too.  It was U.S. that  cause the market to crashed in 2008, with the housing market. Talking about people looking at U.S. as a good model to look up to. HA!

[Áine]

5 hours ago, chuck83 said:

Off-topic: With all this tariff trade war stuff, investors are hedging to gold for stability. XAUUSD is trading at over $3100/ounce. If you have any gold you don't mind selling, I don't know maybe it'll give you a little "peace" to your financial "security" temporarily. 

 

I guess nobody wanted to hedge into BTC(Bitcoin). Smart. Very smart.

I think that fairly soon people will be wondering if they can afford to buy tea as well as sugar etc…. There are very few people who are rich enough in Jehovahs organisation to buy gold etc

 

 These tariffs could very well send the world economy into a severe financial depression the like that will see ‘food shortages’ not because food isn’t available as such but because many will be watching every single thing they spend…

 

it’s certainly not smart to start storing up gold etc… that’s like polishing the brass on a sinking ship

5 hours ago, chuck83 said:

Edited April 3 by Áine
My internet is having a moment

[Sofia]

1 hour ago, Áine said:

it’s certainly not smart to start storing up gold etc… that’s like polishing the brass on a sinking ship

It may become a very valuable item but the Bible warns:

Ez. 7:19 “They will throw their silver into the streets, and their gold will become abhorrent to them. Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to save them in the day of Jehovah’s fury.u They* will not be satisfied, nor will they fill their stomachs, for it* has become a stumbling block causing their error”

[chuck83]

2 hours ago, Áine said:

I think that fairly soon people will be wondering if they can afford to buy tea as well as sugar etc…. There are very few people who are rich enough in Jehovahs organisation to buy gold etc

 

 These tariffs could very well send the world economy into a severe financial depression the like that will see ‘food shortages’ not because food isn’t available as such but because many will be watching every single thing they spend…

 

it’s certainly not smart to start storing up gold etc… that’s like polishing the brass on a sinking ship

 

May I kindly ask where I said anything about buying gold or storing it, for you and I? 😊

Edited April 4 by chuck83

[Shawnster]

1 hour ago, Sofia said:

It may become a very valuable item but the Bible warns:

Ez. 7:19 “They will throw their silver into the streets, and their gold will become abhorrent to them. Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to save them in the day of Jehovah’s fury.u They* will not be satisfied, nor will they fill their stomachs, for it* has become a stumbling block causing their error”

 

The application is this aboit their not being able to buy salvation. This isn't referring to an economic downturn, recession, depression, or a literal economic crisis. 

[Dhanyel]

Putin calls up 160,000 men to Russian army in latest conscription drive, at crucial moment in Ukraine war

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/02/europe/putin-russia-spring-conscription-ukraine-intl/index.html

 

[JennyM]

16 hours ago, JennyM said:

China has military drill near taiwan 

Philippines is preparing for war too  . It may affect the country. 

Part of prophecy. King of North will invade many lands . And military leader in Philippines is already preparing. My country might join the war. Philippines is near Taiwan.. 

[trottigy]

Add on to that the turmoil in the global financing. We say it's a house of cards waiting for someone to pull a card and see it tumble - well, I think someone pulled a card.

[Hope]

22 hours ago, trottigy said:

 

I noticed Russia is missing. 

 

"U.S. total goods trade with Russia were an estimated $3.5 billion in 2024. "

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/russia-and-eurasia/russia

 

Russia must be treating the US very well 

 

 

"...and do not harm the vodka and the caviar.."  🙄😒

[Old]

On 4/3/2025 at 9:17 AM, Dustparticle said:

 

No government backing. Unlike stocks, if it collapse you will not get a cent from the government.

I am not aware of any government support for stock losses, savings accounts do  have federal insurance.

[Áine]

21 hours ago, chuck83 said:

 

May I kindly ask where I said anything about buying gold or storing it, for you and I? 😊

You said that investors were hedging towards buying gold… I didn’t mean you personally! Sorry if it came across that way

 

 there are some within the organisation who have stocks and shares and work the market… I just think it’s a very volatile way to live 

[Tortuga]

1 minute ago, Áine said:

 there are some within the organisation who have stocks and shares and work the market… I just think it’s a very volatile way to live 

I guess it could be a volatile way to live depending on what they are doing. I have some money in the stock market and it's like having a savings account in the bank collecting interest.

[BLEmom]

1 hour ago, Tortuga said:

I guess it could be a volatile way to live depending on what they are doing. I have some money in the stock market and it's like having a savings account in the bank collecting interest.

Yes from how I understand it, doing the normal 401k type of investing will lead to a long term return of 10% per year overall?  I haven’t invested too much time on how it all works. I stick money in there now that I work in corporate and they do matching. 

[Tortuga]

5 minutes ago, BLEmom said:

Yes from how I understand it, doing the normal 401k type of investing will lead to a long term return of 10% per year overall?  I haven’t invested too much time on how it all works. I stick money in there now that I work in corporate and they do matching. 

I thought it was 5% but Google says you are right.  That's better than a bank savings account and the matching funds the company gives you is growing too. 

Edited April 4 by Tortuga

[hatcheckgirl]

Regarding the economic fallout, this opinion piece explains:

 

"Making America great again entails a shift from a consumption-driven economy to a production-driven economy.

"The logical corollary here is that American living standards are going to have to be lower as consumption is taxed (via tariffs) to provide an implicit subsidy to domestic producers."

 

And regarding whether dismantling of the current global economic order can be restored:

 

"And the idea that, let's say, four years'' time, Donald Trump's replaced by, for example, a Democrat, that's not going to change the outcome.

"I mean, once all this is gone, it's gone. And all the decades of work that took to build it up will not be able to be replicated."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-05/trump-tariffs-upend-80-year-old-world-economic-order/105139464?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=safari

 

Yep, this is going to be very messy. Our trust is in Jehovah, and we can hold our heads up as we see our deliverance getting nearer.

[Dhanyel]

 

The term that some media outlets are using is: "A new global economic order is emerging." 💣

 

[JennyM]

Trade war is a part of pushing from KOTS vs KOTN. We are living in a very different times. 

[chuck83]

2 hours ago, Dhanyel said:

 

The term that some media outlets are using is: "A new global economic order is emerging." 💣

 

At WEF (World Economic Forum) in 2021, I believe UN, IMF, and WEF talked about a Global Reset due to Covid and all countries needing to be on the same page. That’s why Pact of the Future makes sense. Crypto was huge talking point. 
 

It’s probably actually happening now. 

[Sofia]

13 hours ago, hatcheckgirl said:

Regarding the economic fallout, this opinion piece explains:

 

"Making America great again entails a shift from a consumption-driven economy to a production-driven economy.

"The logical corollary here is that American living standards are going to have to be lower as consumption is taxed (via tariffs) to provide an implicit subsidy to domestic producers."

 

And regarding whether dismantling of the current global economic order can be restored:

 

"And the idea that, let's say, four years'' time, Donald Trump's replaced by, for example, a Democrat, that's not going to change the outcome.

"I mean, once all this is gone, it's gone. And all the decades of work that took to build it up will not be able to be replicated."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-05/trump-tariffs-upend-80-year-old-world-economic-order/105139464?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=safari

 

Yep, this is going to be very messy. Our trust is in Jehovah, and we can hold our heads up as we see our deliverance getting nearer.

Looks like GT is just around the corner 

[Doug]

14 hours ago, BLEmom said:

Yes from how I understand it, doing the normal 401k type of investing will lead to a long term return of 10% per year overall?  

 

It's not too bad if you don't need the money and play the long game.  But, if you need the money for a car, wedding, health emergency, divorce or whatever, you will have heavy penalties.  Probably walk away with less than if it was in a savings account.

Having access to your investments is a big consideration.  And, I suppose, a big temptation as well.