Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[fix it shop]

8 minutes ago, vern said:

They play dumb.

 

They know what they are doing.

Dumb Dumb

[fix it shop]

5 minutes ago, vern said:

"They receive authority as kings without a kingdom"

Burger King were  kids are king !  You get the humor , I get their stupidity   ,   Jehovah says DONE !THE End !!  Our God don't see there humor or achievements  , just foolishness and stupidity  ,!

[Dages]

Hezbollah may have been decapitated now. Nasrallah was probably in the building they bombed earlier today.
May they claim peace and security, so we can move on

[New World Explorer]

40 minutes ago, Dages said:

Hezbollah may have been decapitated now. Nasrallah was probably in the building they bombed earlier today.
May they claim peace and security, so we can move on

Not yet, Iran is still “alive” and close to getting nuclear weapon. Israel will never tolerate this. I think  greater “mess” is still coming. BTW, Israeli prime minister described UN as a “joke” yesterday. Very interesting times we are living in. 

[Tortuga]

Just a thought.

We generally think of the UN receiving authority from the kings of the earth specifically to immediately attack BTG, but do the scriptures indicate that is all that will happen? We have learned over the years that bible prophecy doesn't give us every detail, so is it possible that the UN will receive authority from the kings of the earth and accomplish a lot of good things for the world? Is it possible the UN may have that authority for long time before it uses it to destroy BTG? One possible scenario that I was thinking about is that the UN brings peace and security to the world and then a new religious conflict erupts. Does that sound reasonable?

[fix it shop]

5 hours ago, Ysaias said:

It'll be World War Last!

 

—‘I promise you that this will be the final war—the war to end all wars.’—Woodrow Wilson, U.S. President (1913-21).

     This proved to be false when WW2 happened.

 

—“We have had our last chance. If we do not devise some greater and more equitable system, Armageddon will be at our door.”—U.S. General Douglas MacArthur (1945).

     I guess this is the sentiment still present in the world, that if they fail to prevent another global conflict, it'll be the end. They're kinda right, ¿don't you think?

I do not want to think of this , I want to start walking to the new system , no offense, that is what I think. Not upset of your thoughts . Just....... want to go .     Bye friend

[fix it shop]

5 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

Just a thought.

We generally think of the UN receiving authority from the kings of the earth specifically to immediately attack BTG, but do the scriptures indicate that is all that will happen? We have learned over the years that bible prophecy doesn't give us every detail, so is it possible that the UN will receive authority from the kings of the earth and accomplish a lot of good things for the world? Is it possible the UN may have that authority for long time before it uses it to destroy BTG? One possible scenario that I was thinking about is that the UN brings peace and security to the world and then a new religious conflict erupts. Does that sound reasonable?

YES

[Dhanyel]

  

someone could summarize what he is saying just for better understanding for those who do not have English as their first language, I would appreciate it.

 

 

[Dolce vita]

58 minutes ago, Dhanyel said:

 

  

someone could summarize what he is saying just for better understanding for those who do not have English as their first language, I would appreciate it.

 

 

If I understood correctly, dear @Dhanyel  (real English speakers please correct me): he evokes a historic reconciliation between the Arab world and Israel, Islam and Judaism, Mecca and Jerusalem, saying that if Israel is determined to achieve peace Iran and its proxies are determined to break this peace. To, in a way, pull the rug from under Iran's feet, we absolutely must achieve this peace, a peace which would be the foundation of an expansion of Abraham's allies (I am not at all sure about this) like the United States, Saudi Arabia, the Arab countries friends of peace. The outcome of this Middle East peace would bring enormous benefits to the rest of the world. With the help and leadership of the USA, this peace could really exist, he thinks, and even sooner than one might think, he adds. He ends by saying that as Prime Minister he will do everything in his power to make this happen. This is an opportunity that Israel and the entire world should not miss.

[vern]

They always speak like this.  Never usually do anything?

[fix it shop]

2 minutes ago, vern said:

They always speak like this.  Never usually do anything?

See post 8 to 9 up  picture  thanks

[Dolce vita]

9 minutes ago, vern said:

They always speak like this.  Never usually do anything?

True, but the prophecy tells us that one day, the turn will be taken 180°. They will not do more but they will say it in a way to impress the world but this time, snap snap, the trap will close on their mouths before they have time to say yhe last words. It will then be up to Jehovah to play and bring out THE hand that writes on the walls: Tekel Tekel it's over...

[fix it shop]

1 minute ago, Dolce vita said:

True, but the prophecy tells us that one day, the turn will be taken 180°. They will not do more but they will say it in a way to impress the world but this time, snap snap, the trap will close on their mouths before they have time to say yhe last words. It will then be up to Jehovah to play and bring out THE hand that writes on the walls: Tekel Tekel it's over...

YES.  YES.  YES !!!!!!!!!!

[bogartd]

5 hours ago, WD-40 said:

Has anyone seen my Shark vacuum

[Richie]

5 hours ago, navco said:

https://x.com/redstreamnet/status/1839664141595750558

un member states walk out on isreal does this mean anything i dont know

It shows that Israel is humiliated by the majorities action. 

[fix it shop]

29 minutes ago, bogartd said:

At least it's not a Kirby!!!!!!!!!!  

[just1-4all]

4 hours ago, Tortuga said:

Just a thought.

We generally think of the UN receiving authority from the kings of the earth specifically to immediately attack BTG, but do the scriptures indicate that is all that will happen? We have learned over the years that bible prophecy doesn't give us every detail, so is it possible that the UN will receive authority from the kings of the earth and accomplish a lot of good things for the world? Is it possible the UN may have that authority for long time before it uses it to destroy BTG? One possible scenario that I was thinking about is that the UN brings peace and security to the world and then a new religious conflict erupts. Does that sound reasonable?

It doesn't sound beyond the realm of possibility ... (imo)

[Dhanyel]

He, Benjamin Netanyahu, in his speech, was he referring to this Abraham Accords that they created?

 

https://www.aapeaceinstitute.org/

 

[Doug]

6 hours ago, Tortuga said:

 is it possible that the UN will receive authority from the kings of the earth and accomplish a lot of good things for the world? Is it possible the UN may have that authority for long time before it uses it to destroy BTG? One possible scenario that I was thinking about is that the UN brings peace and security to the world and then a new religious conflict erupts. Does that sound reasonable?

 

A real possibility.

 

I listened to the news conference Shannon posted again.   I guess the theme for the UN's Annual Meeting was "Summit for the Future".   The big deal is the "Pact for the Future", which is a treaty, or a contract, that the UN has proposed.

 

To quote Mr. Antonio Guterres, "I propose that the General Assembly provide the Secretary General and the United Nations' system with a standing authority to convene and operationize automatically an emergency platform in the event of a future complex global shock of sufficient scale, severity and reach."

 

The proposal is born from the pandemic, where a central command was lacking.  The proposal would change the nature of the UN from a mediator of nations to an "International Governing Body for Global Governance".

 

The pact (treaty, contract) authorizes the UN to assume command in the event of a complex global shock, as determined by the WHO or UN. They would have no need to ask for consensus. Examples of what they are talking about are:  Another Pandemic,  Climate or Environmental Crisis,  Cyber Emergency,  Financial Crisis, Gun Violence Emergency,  Global Disruption of Goods,  Black Swan Event or some other High Impact Event.

 

The wording is broad, plus the determination of an event meeting the criterion of "sufficient scale, severity and reach" rests with the WHO and UN.

 

If this pact is adopted as a feature of the UN charter,  we could say it's a fulfillment of Rev. 17:12,13.  The nations will have entered into a legally binding treaty to subordinate their national authority to the UN's central authority.

 

As Richard mused, this may not result in the immediate attack on false religion.  In fact, there may be some positive things accomplished.  The nations may be proud of themselves for seeing the value of a central command.  Yes, they may even start thinking P&S is within reach.

 

But, with their new, sanctioned authority, the UN is then in the perfect situation to use that power against the biggest troublemaker, causing all kinds of problems ~ false religion!!!!

[jrnievas]

29 minutes ago, Doug said:

 

A real possibility.

 

I listened to the news conference Shannon posted again.   I guess the theme for the UN's Annual Meeting was "Summit for the Future".   The big deal is the "Pact for the Future", which is a treaty, or a contract, that the UN has proposed.

 

To quote Mr. Antonio Guterres, "I propose that the General Assembly provide the Secretary General and the United Nations' system with a standing authority to convene and operationize automatically an emergency platform in the event of a future complex global shock of sufficient scale, severity and reach."

 

The proposal is born from the pandemic, where a central command was lacking.  The proposal would change the nature of the UN from a mediator of nations to an "International Governing Body for Global Governance".

 

The pact (treaty, contract) authorizes the UN to assume command in the event of a complex global shock, as determined by the WHO or UN. They would have no need to ask for consensus. Examples of what they are talking about are:  Another Pandemic,  Climate or Environmental Crisis,  Cyber Emergency,  Financial Crisis, Gun Violence Emergency,  Global Disruption of Goods,  Black Swan Event or some other High Impact Event.

 

The wording is broad, plus the determination of an event meeting the criterion of "sufficient scale, severity and reach" rests with the WHO and UN.

 

If this pact is adopted as a feature of the UN charter,  we could say it's a fulfillment of Rev. 17:12,13.  The nations will have entered into a legally binding treaty to subordinate their national authority to the UN's central authority.

 

As Richard mused, this may not result in the immediate attack on false religion.  In fact, there may be some positive things accomplished.  The nations may be proud of themselves for seeing the value of a central command.  Yes, they may even start thinking P&S is within reach.

 

But, with their new, sanctioned authority, the UN is then in the perfect situation to use that power against the biggest troublemaker, causing all kinds of problems ~ false religion!!!!

And we need to wait for the Governing Body to tell us if this will be the fulfilment of the Rev. 17:17 or not....

 

For now, we need to be alert .... on how things will unfold ....

[Richie]

1 hour ago, Doug said:

The proposal would change the nature of the UN from a mediator of nations to an "International Governing Body for Global Governance".

This sounds interesting... If becoming true Rev 17:17 and others prophecy will fulfill this passage... 

[Datsun_120Y]

11 hours ago, WD-40 said:

At least it's not a Kirby!!!!!!!!!!  

lol Kirby 😆 🤣 memories

[New World Explorer]

The Israeli military claims that Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah was killed in Friday’s airstrike in Beirut, Lebanon. Following the announcement, the army chief warned this is “not the end of our toolbox.” Israel has been escalating its attacks on Hezbollah.

Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei sent a message of assurance to Hezbollah on Saturday, saying that “all regional resistance forces” are standing with the group.

In his first message since the Israeli military claimed the killing of Hezbollah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah, Khamenei said that Israel was “too small to cause significant damage” to the Lebanese group. The fate of the region, he said, “will be determined by the resistance forces, at the top of which is a victorious Hezbollah.”

“It is obligatory for all Muslims to stand proudly with the people of Lebanon and Hezbollah with their resources and help it in confronting the usurping, cruel and evil regime,” the written statement said.https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-09-28-24?t=1727548833028

[Sofia]

21 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

The Israeli military claims that Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah was killed in Friday’s airstrike in Beirut, Lebanon. Following the announcement, the army chief warned this is “not the end of our toolbox.” Israel has been escalating its attacks on Hezbollah.

Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei sent a message of assurance to Hezbollah on Saturday, saying that “all regional resistance forces” are standing with the group.

In his first message since the Israeli military claimed the killing of Hezbollah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah, Khamenei said that Israel was “too small to cause significant damage” to the Lebanese group. The fate of the region, he said, “will be determined by the resistance forces, at the top of which is a victorious Hezbollah.”

“It is obligatory for all Muslims to stand proudly with the people of Lebanon and Hezbollah with their resources and help it in confronting the usurping, cruel and evil regime,” the written statement said.https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-09-28-24?t=1727548833028

Maybe… just maybe 🤔 the KOTN will reach its end before we expect 

KOTS will be the supreme power till Armagedom 

23 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

“It is obligatory for all Muslims to stand proudly with the people of Lebanon and Hezbollah with their resources and help it in confronting the usurping, cruel and evil regime,” t

This is not good for BTG

[New World Explorer]

Hezbollah has confirmed the death of its leader Hassan Nasrallah, after Israel said he was killed in an airstrike in Beirut on Friday.https://edition.cnn.com/