Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Dhanyel]

Nobel Peace Prize winners warn of rising risk of nuclear war

https://www.reuters.com/world/nobel-peace-prize-winners-warn-risk-nuclear-war-2024-10-12/

"I fear that we as humankind are on the path to self-destruction. The only way to stop that is to abolish nuclear,"

[JennyM]

11 hours ago, Dhanyel said:

Nobel Peace Prize winners warn of rising risk of nuclear war

https://www.reuters.com/world/nobel-peace-prize-winners-warn-risk-nuclear-war-2024-10-12/

"I fear that we as humankind are on the path to self-destruction. The only way to stop that is to abolish nuclear,"

nice try

[Ostria]

Curious, are people still obsessing over that dooms day clock thing? We're like what, 30 seconds to midnight or something?

[jrnievas]

Just a thought,

 

Our new understanding regarding the soon to be empowered UN, makes me feel that any time soon, maybe 10 to 5 years from now, or maybe in just 1 to 3 years, the Great Tribulation will start or may soon we will be on the Great Tribulation... (IDK, and we don't know, yet)

Remember when Rutherford and the GB announces and deliver the talk regarding the rise of new League of Nation during WWII, after 3 years, United Nations arise....

 

*** w85 10/1 p. 15 par. 9 Peace, Security, and the ‘Image of the Beast’ ***

9 Our identification of this beast is confirmed by some further details given by the angel: “The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction.” (Revelation 17:8) This has already been fulfilled in part. The second world war effectively killed the League of Nations. In 1942, when Jehovah’s Witnesses came to understand this prophecy clearly, it could be said of the League-beast: “It ‘is not.’” But in 1945 it ‘ascended out of the abyss’ as the United Nations organization. Will it succeed in its mission to bring peace and security? The prophecy says no. Rather, it is “to go off into destruction.”
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=1985723&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=12

 

So, this new understanding makes me feel that soon the UN will gain its power (again) and will be empowered came from all the nations... and they will proclaim Peace and Security then later on destruct the Babylon the Great...
 

We will see... I will go back to this comment when this happen...

 

Just to add the countdown haha... 😅

 

https://www.timeanddate.com/counters/fullscreen.html?mode=m&iso=20271005T00&year=2027&month=10&day=5&hour=0&min=0&sec=0&p0=145&msg=Will the Great Tribulation Started%3f

[Richie]

5 minutes ago, jrnievas said:

Just a thought,

 

Our new understanding regarding the soon to be empowered UN, makes me feel that any time soon, maybe 10 to 5 years from now, or maybe in just 1 to 3 years, the Great Tribulation will start or may soon we will be on the Great Tribulation... (IDK, and we don't know, yet)

Remember when Rutherford and the GB announces and deliver the talk regarding the rise of new League of Nation during WWII, after 3 years, United Nations arise....

 

*** w85 10/1 p. 15 par. 9 Peace, Security, and the ‘Image of the Beast’ ***

9 Our identification of this beast is confirmed by some further details given by the angel: “The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction.” (Revelation 17:8) This has already been fulfilled in part. The second world war effectively killed the League of Nations. In 1942, when Jehovah’s Witnesses came to understand this prophecy clearly, it could be said of the League-beast: “It ‘is not.’” But in 1945 it ‘ascended out of the abyss’ as the United Nations organization. Will it succeed in its mission to bring peace and security? The prophecy says no. Rather, it is “to go off into destruction.”
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=1985723&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=12

 

So, this new understanding makes me feel that soon the UN will gain its power (again) and will be empowered came from all the nations... and they will proclaim Peace and Security then later on destruct the Babylon the Great...
 

We will see... I will go back to this comment when this happen...

 

Just to add the countdown haha... 😅

 

https://www.timeanddate.com/counters/fullscreen.html?mode=m&iso=20271005T00&year=2027&month=10&day=5&hour=0&min=0&sec=0&p0=145&msg=Will the Great Tribulation Started%3f

Giving  numbers to the assumption is a bit risky and wild. Very soon os close is made the assumption conservative and keep us away from risk.😊🤗😊

 

By the way, Jehovah's day is very near☺️... very soon to come. 

[Tortuga]

17 minutes ago, jrnievas said:

Just a thought,

For those that are avoiding the Annual Meeting Spoiler and don't want to see anything before it's on the Broadcast, this would have been a good time to close your eyes. 

Edited October 13 by Tortuga

[jrnievas]

3 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

For those that are avoiding the Annual Meeting Spoiler and don't want to see anything before it's on the Broadcast, this would have been a good time to close your eyes.

Aww hahaha Sorry po.. It's just a 'thought'..... 'one thought' hahaha

Edited October 13 by jrnievas

[Andrey]

In the World scenario. The war will end, the eighth king will appear. Then peace and security will be proclaimed.

 

- World War I - League of Nations
- World War II - the United Nations.
- ............................. - The Eighth King, the U.N. 

 

The question remains: Where will the war end?

 

reflection, joke 🤪

Edited October 13 by Andrey

[Andrey]

What issue is most at stake now that conflict (wars) between countries has broken out?

- loss of life during wars?
- religious intolerance?
- national, interracial animosity?
- threat to national security?

- economic crisis?

First World countries, which are countries of economic, military, and political superiority, are concerned that war not spill over into their territory. The loss of life and religious massacres are political manipulations that are used to hold on to power or for electioneering. But, the issue of national security and the economic world crisis we can soon expect is a matter of paramount importance. The leaders of the “Great” powers and empires are more afraid of this. Therefore, the wars that are being waged now are still profitable. But, the Apogee of everything will come. And although there will be no peace, there will be a question of national security and economic devastation, which entailed, quick action, to create a power structure on the world stage, which could solve the issues and desires of most of the Leading countries of the world.

We are waiting for historical events and the birth of a new Leader on the world stage.

Edited October 13 by Andrey

[Andrey]

Another “one thought”. 🤪

 

Jehovah has at all times protected his people (Organization) from destruction and ruin, in general. This is His, the “firstborn son,” in this system of Satan, born in Egypt. Exodus 4:22, 23

 

The destruction of Babylon the Great is most likely a diversion from Jehovah, which He will demonstrate when the words of Daniel 11:40-43 begin to be fulfilled on a larger scale. So that the Organization will not be harmed, Jehovah will put one thought to the world leaders, switch to the religions of the world as the world threat. This is the beginning of the salvation of His people that will end in Armageddon.

Reflections

Edited October 13 by Andrey

[Dhanyel]

UN says Israeli tanks burst through gates of peacekeeper base

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-orders-evacuation-more-southern-lebanese-towns-amid-rising-displacement-2024-10-12/

Any deliberate attack on peacekeepers is a grave violation of international humanitarian law and Resolution 1701," the U.N. force said

[JennyM]

On 10/13/2024 at 12:48 PM, jrnievas said:

Just a thought,

 

Our new understanding regarding the soon to be empowered UN, makes me feel that any time soon, maybe 10 to 5 years from now, or maybe in just 1 to 3 years, the Great Tribulation will start or may soon we will be on the Great Tribulation... (IDK, and we don't know, yet)

Remember when Rutherford and the GB announces and deliver the talk regarding the rise of new League of Nation during WWII, after 3 years, United Nations arise....

 

*** w85 10/1 p. 15 par. 9 Peace, Security, and the ‘Image of the Beast’ ***

9 Our identification of this beast is confirmed by some further details given by the angel: “The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction.” (Revelation 17:8) This has already been fulfilled in part. The second world war effectively killed the League of Nations. In 1942, when Jehovah’s Witnesses came to understand this prophecy clearly, it could be said of the League-beast: “It ‘is not.’” But in 1945 it ‘ascended out of the abyss’ as the United Nations organization. Will it succeed in its mission to bring peace and security? The prophecy says no. Rather, it is “to go off into destruction.”
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=1985723&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=12

 

So, this new understanding makes me feel that soon the UN will gain its power (again) and will be empowered came from all the nations... and they will proclaim Peace and Security then later on destruct the Babylon the Great...
 

We will see... I will go back to this comment when this happen...

 

Just to add the countdown haha... 😅

 

https://www.timeanddate.com/counters/fullscreen.html?mode=m&iso=20271005T00&year=2027&month=10&day=5&hour=0&min=0&sec=0&p0=145&msg=Will the Great Tribulation Started%3f

I hope you are right. No one on earth is living the real life. It is just survival. 

Yea some live more comfortable life but it is only temporary. All get sick and die. 

 

 

However, if the end doesnt come sooner. We know that Jehovah can help us to endure. 

 

Let us pour our heart to him and throw our burdens because He cares. 

 

 

[Dhanyel]

 

Is the Third World War on the horizon? Could 2025 be marked by even more intense conflicts?

[Dustparticle]

2 minutes ago, Dhanyel said:

 

Is the Third World War on the horizon? Could 2025 be marked by even more intense conflicts?

It all depends how much chocolate I eat that year. It can be an internal battle. 

[Datsun_120Y]

12 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

It all depends how much chocolate I eat that year. It can be an internal battle. 

Time to stock up 😆😅

[New World Explorer]

1 hour ago, Dustparticle said:

It all depends how much chocolate I eat that year. It can be an internal battle. 

Will this internal battle produce “explosions and gases?” LOL ☢️😂 

 

[Dustparticle]

1 minute ago, New World Explorer said:

Will this internal battle produce “explosions and gases?” LOL ☢️😂 

 

 Pray for me so it will not happen.

[Tortuga]

22 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

Will this internal battle produce “explosions and gases?” LOL ☢️😂 

 

"May we return to more constructive dialogue here my dear brother? " 

[JennyM]

7 hours ago, Dhanyel said:

 

Is the Third World War on the horizon? Could 2025 be marked by even more intense conflicts?

Pushing seems getting intense. Without angels, holding back the wind of destruction , we would have destroyed ourselves since WW2. The prophecy to gather the great crowd must be fulfilled. 

 

 

 

[New World Explorer]

2 hours ago, JennyM said:

Without angels, holding back the wind of destruction , we would have destroyed ourselves since WW2.

I am not sure if I share your view Jenny, lets pick a date ... cold war or something USSR nukes London (1960) USA nukes Moscow ... then Jehovah would have to step in before that happens ... that means Armageddon would arrive earlier. I don't think Jehovah is extending last days for his point to be proven... In the case of Armageddon arriving in 1960 ... Kingdom preaching and gathering would need to start earlier as well. 

I think that Jehovah perfectly foresaw (world conditions) and when to step in ... namely not before 15 October 2024. 

(holding back the winds of destruction relates to anointed being sealed , not to the world's events and mankind in general) 

 

But good point Jenny, mankind is hopeless in managing affairs of the world. 

[Shawnster]

9 hours ago, JennyM said:

Pushing seems getting intense. Without angels, holding back the wind of destruction , we would have destroyed ourselves since WW2. The prophecy to gather the great crowd must be fulfilled. 

 

 

 

The angels are holding back the winds of Jehovah's destructive force and not nuclear war. 

 

 

*** w13 11/15 p. 13 par. 13 How Can We Maintain “a Waiting Attitude”? ***

13 Read Revelation 7:1-4. While we wait for the fulfillment of 1 Thessalonians 5:3, powerful angels are holding back the destructive winds of the great tribulation. What are they waiting for? One key event is described by the apostle John—the final sealing of the anointed “slaves of our God.”a Once that final sealing has been completed, the angels will unleash the winds of destruction. What will happen then?

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2013844&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=21

 

The angels are holding back the great tribulation 

[Dhanyel]

32 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

The angels are holding back the winds of Jehovah's destructive force and not nuclear war. 

 

 

*** w13 11/15 p. 13 par. 13 How Can We Maintain “a Waiting Attitude”? ***

13 Read Revelation 7:1-4. While we wait for the fulfillment of 1 Thessalonians 5:3, powerful angels are holding back the destructive winds of the great tribulation. What are they waiting for? One key event is described by the apostle John—the final sealing of the anointed “slaves of our God.”a Once that final sealing has been completed, the angels will unleash the winds of destruction. What will happen then?

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2013844&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=21

 

The angels are holding back the great tribulation 

Welcome back Shaw, I missed you, I asked about you and they told me you had commitments but that you were fine, I'm glad!

[JennyM]

2 hours ago, Shawnster said:

The angels are holding back the winds of Jehovah's destructive force and not nuclear war. 

 

 

*** w13 11/15 p. 13 par. 13 How Can We Maintain “a Waiting Attitude”? ***

13 Read Revelation 7:1-4. While we wait for the fulfillment of 1 Thessalonians 5:3, powerful angels are holding back the destructive winds of the great tribulation. What are they waiting for? One key event is described by the apostle John—the final sealing of the anointed “slaves of our God.”a Once that final sealing has been completed, the angels will unleash the winds of destruction. What will happen then?

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2013844&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=21

 

The angels are holding back the great tribulation 

Thanks @Shawnster and @New World Explorer.. I talked based on my memory and it wasnt 100% correct. 

 

Could that be the final sealing of the last batch of the generation that wont pass away 

 

 

Edited October 15 by JennyM

[New World Explorer]

5 hours ago, JennyM said:

Thanks @Shawnster and @New World Explorer.. I talked based on my memory and it wasnt 100% correct. 

 

Could that be the final sealing of the last batch of the generation that wont pass away 

 

 

Any anointed needs to be sealed before Jehovah gives angels command to no longer hold the winds of destruction. (Emphasis on ANY) 

[Sackedbysapp]

17 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

Any anointed needs to be sealed before Jehovah gives angels command to no longer hold the winds of destruction. (Emphasis on ANY) 

Is it safe to say that already done?

Edited October 15 by Sackedbysapp