Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[New World Explorer]

3 hours ago, Ahuvah said:

I shall ponder my sister. ❤️ 

I humbly think that any framework is irrelevant because for:

1. The framework does not include them handing over the power - no such thing is on the cards. 

2. They do not want to hand over power 

 

Any reform does not include any substance of relinquishing power. 

There is a framework for reform of UN and becoming more efficient but what is recorded in Rev 17:17 purely comes from Jehovah. 

To change things Jehovah will "force it" using his Holy spirit to happen.  (And Jehovah will change it regardless whether the framework exists or not) 

[New World Explorer]

There is a lot of anger in Australia over 25% steel tariffs imposed recently by USA 

The comments from government are encouraging to buy local (therefore not to buy US goods)  

Someone even mentioned to kick out US military bases. 

There is a lot of negative talk about America (a lot) 

Ordinary people float "boycot American goods" 

Conclusion: KOTS is divided now. 

Advice for God's people - Stay neutral.  

Edited 9 hours ago by New World Explorer

[Shawnster]

Woah. I was worried about all of you. 24 hours and not a single post made in this topic. Glad to see everyone is OK. 

[Ahuvah]

4 hours ago, LeslieDean said:

It is 3am here. I just woke up and turned immediately to this post. So strange to awaken clear minded and rested. But what I wanted to say is the last half dozen comments triggered a conversation that I was listening to between  brothers at my old KH in Beverly Hills CA. It was around the year 2001, still new to the truth. I didn't fully understand their words but found it fascinating. One said that everything was already needed to attack religion was already set in place. All 'we' were waiting for was Jehovah to flip the switch in the leaders heart to attack. It all makes sense to me now. It made me think of a home being constructed. Lots of phases. Dig foundation, pour foundation, put up walls, install insulation, install  plumbing,, electric , roof, finishing touches.  Always delays -you never know where they will come from but you definitely know their coming, Then the moment arrives and it looks like everything is a go and boom no lights. Electrician called to check wiring. No problem noted. Then someone finally thinks to check the light bulb and climbs up ladder giving the bulb a slight twist and sudden light floods the room. It was there all along. They just didn't know it. One simple unexpected thing sheds immediate light on everything. That scenario of mine helps me see the situation. All laws are in place to act. So if that is the fact then could we not be seeing the electrician searching the problem they don't even know the answer to,  then out of frustration and last chance effort BOOM let there be light! 

 

 

 

Just read your comment at 2.08 am NZ time. ❤️ 

[LeolaRootStew]

2 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

I humbly think that any framework is irrelevant because for:

1. The framework does not include them handing over the power - no such thing is on the cards. 

2. They do not want to hand over power 

 

Any reform does not include any substance of relinquishing power. 

There is a framework for reform of UN and becoming more efficient but what is recorded in Rev 17:17 purely comes from Jehovah. 

To change things Jehovah will "force it" using his Holy spirit to happen.  (And Jehovah will change it regardless whether the framework exists or not) 

 

I'm not saying framework must be in place ahead of time; it seems reasonable that if they just decided to give their power to the UN, they wouldn't need any lead-up. I'm just saying I don't want to hush people who are watching the UN looking for a possible framework; if that helps them keep on the watch, I'm happy for them.

[Ahuvah]

2 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

 

I'm not saying framework must be in place ahead of time; it seems reasonable that if they just decided to give their power to the UN, they wouldn't need any lead-up. I'm just saying I don't want to hush people who are watching the UN looking for a possible framework; if that helps them keep on the watch, I'm happy for them.

Now this makes sense, but with a caution.

 

As long as it isn't conveyed in a way that waters down n̈ew understanding or causes a distraction that everyone gets false hopes or start pinning meanings to things that arent quite right..

 

I'm very aware of our beautiful treasure chest of brothers and sisters on this site, some are new and some are still grasping the deeper things. I'm also very aware of making sure conversation is speculative only in areas that the Bible is silent on or things aren't clear.

 

As a participant of this conversation it's important that new understandings especially are conveyed exactly as Jehovah’s channel has intended.

 

I think looking at the current structure and events taking place can be very advantageous as they  only confirm we are in the right place and time. But it is so very easy to get excited about things that MAY be some time off yet. (And I say this only to keep everything objective even though I do think we are very very close). 

 

PS: I am not saying anyone is doing that of course, but sometimes clarification is needed to make sure we are all on the same page IF the topic has a clear path. AND it's always good for me to question to make sure MY interpretation is in line with the GB as well. Love this thread and all of you who work hard at giving fascinating and accurate posts.

[LeslieDean]

I just reread what I wrote, geesh, I just wish someone would have told me to roll over and go back to sleep. I was started on antidepressant one week ago and I think they are making me dramatic and long winded. Forgive please. 

[Ahuvah]

11 minutes ago, LeslieDean said:

I just reread what I wrote, geesh, I just wish someone would have told me to roll over and go back to sleep. I was started on antidepressant one week ago and I think they are making me dramatic and long winded. Forgive please. 

Your comment was just fine .... our journeys are unique to each one of us, even though we all have the same truth. I appreciate you sharing part of yours. You are loved very much on here, of that you can be sure.