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On 6/14/2025 at 8:23 PM, SteveAus said:

punched the term 'Day of Jehovah' into Gemini AI and asked it to only use jw.org as a reference. This is the doc it produced.

 

I clicked on the link you included.

 

Candidly, I was surprised at the evenness of their composition.

 

Perhaps the reason was that you specified that only material from JW.org was to be used. 

 

I am not "conversant" with AI (even though I started with computers in 1968 writing line by line programs in COBOL). I am surprised to find out that you could specify which source material they would use.

 

But, I still am very cautious about asking a "worldly" source to give a synopsis of material from Jehovah's organization. I would be MUCH more comfortable going straight to Jehovah's organization for material.

 

We know from things that happened in the previous century that worldly institutions have the ability to manufacture material that appears to be from Jehovah's organization, but is in reality false. There was a program within the past two years on JW.org specifically covering an instance where the USSR (through one of its agencies) falsified a letter supposedly from the Society in Brooklyn that was full of disinformation. After the collapse of the USSR, the Society received a copy of the false letter sent out by the USSR (apparently from brothers to whom the false letter was sent) and was able to specifically identify what was changed and how.

 

Even if we can instruct an AI program to limit its reference sources, we do not know for sure that the limitation of source material will be followed. We cannot trust "promises" of the world. The world is under the control of Satan (1 John 5:19).

 

Jehovah's organization is the only one we can trust to give us accurate information from the Faithful and Discreet Slave (aka The Governing Body).

 

Thanks,

 

Jim

 

P.S. This is the main reason why I have not explored or used AI.  It is not from Jehovah. It is from the world.

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13 minutes ago, jdcarlson said:

 

Cliquei no link que você incluiu.

 

Francamente, fiquei surpreso com a uniformidade da composição deles.

 

Talvez o motivo seja que você especificou que somente material do JW.org deveria ser usado. 

 

Não sou "familiarizado" com IA (embora tenha começado com computadores em 1968, escrevendo programas linha por linha em COBOL). Fiquei surpreso ao descobrir que você conseguiu especificar qual material de origem eles usariam.

 

Mas ainda sou muito cauteloso em pedir a uma fonte "mundana" que me dê uma sinopse de material da organização de Jeová. Eu me sentiria MUITO mais confortável em ir diretamente à organização de Jeová para obter material.

 

Sabemos, por fatos ocorridos no século passado, que instituições seculares têm a capacidade de fabricar material que parece ser da organização de Jeová, mas que na realidade é falso. Nos últimos dois anos, houve um programa no JW.org abordando especificamente um caso em que a URSS (por meio de uma de suas agências) falsificou uma carta supostamente da Sociedade em Brooklyn, repleta de desinformação. Após o colapso da URSS, a Sociedade recebeu uma cópia da carta falsa enviada pela URSS (aparentemente de irmãos a quem a carta falsa foi enviada) e conseguiu identificar especificamente o que havia sido alterado e como.

 

Mesmo que possamos instruir um programa de IA a limitar suas fontes de referência, não sabemos com certeza se a limitação do material de origem será respeitada. Não podemos confiar nas "promessas" do mundo. O mundo está sob o controle de Satanás (1 João 5:19).

 

A organização de Jeová é a única em que podemos confiar para nos dar informações precisas do  Escravo Fiel e Discreto  (também conhecido como Corpo Governante).

 

Obrigado,

 

Jim

 

PS: Esta é a principal razão pela qual não explorei nem usei a IA. Ela não vem de Jeová. Ela vem do mundo.

I agree. It does not have the spirit of Jehovah. So it is a good tool, it can be useful, but it still does not come from Jehovah. It can be a good tool and it can be useful to Satan and his representatives... we have to be careful.  

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Oil prices fall more than 4% on report Iran wants to end hostilities with Israel

Published Sun, Jun 15 20256:10 PM EDTUpdated 2 Min Ago

 

Tehran has told Arab officials that they are open to return to the negotiating table over its nuclear program so long as the U.S. doesn’t join Israel’s air campaign, European and Middle Eastern officials told The Wall Street Journal.

 

Iran wants Saudi Arabia and other Arab nations to message Trump about pressuring Israel for a ceasefire and is offering to restart nuclear deal negotiations, Reuters also reported.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/15/oil-prices-jump-after-israel-strikes-energy-facilities-in-iran.html

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A Battered Iran Signals It Wants to De-Escalate Hostilities With Israel and Negotiate

Messages passed by Tehran through intermediaries seek a return to talks if the U.S. stays out of the fight

 

 

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/a-battered-iran-signals-it-wants-to-de-escalate-hostilities-with-israel-and-negotiate-9feab4ae

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Netanyahu tells ABC he's not ruling out taking out Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei

"They're deliberately targeting our population," Netanyahu told ABC News.

 

ByJonathan Karl and Oren Oppenheim

June 16, 2025, 12:35 PM

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/netanyahu-tells-abc-ruling-taking-irans-supreme-leader/story?id=122868515

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Regarding AI:

I recently asked ChatGPT which sitcom a certain catchphrase came from. It made up an answer because it ‘sounded likely’ and ‘needed to reply promptly’!

I told it to check again and it found the right one after a longer search.

The conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard, is: Fear the true God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole obligation of man. Ec 12:13

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1 hour ago, ChrisC said:

Regarding AI:

I recently asked ChatGPT which sitcom a certain catchphrase came from. It made up an answer because it ‘sounded likely’ and ‘needed to reply promptly’!

I told it to check again and it found the right one after a longer search.

Did you post this by mistake in peace and security topic? 

Man was created as an intelligent creature with the desire to explore and understand :)

 

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11 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

Did you post this by mistake in peace and security topic? 

Scroll up to the top of this page... 

Phillipians 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well-spoken-of, whatever things are virtuous, and whatever things are praiseworthy, continue considering these things. 

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1 hour ago, ChrisC said:

It made up an answer because it ‘sounded likely’ and ‘needed to reply promptly’!

So, I'm not the only one that does that..:whistling:

CAUTION: The comments above may contain personal opinion, speculation, inaccurate information, sarcasm, wit, satire or humor, let the reader use discernment...:D

 

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