Religion in the news

[BLEmom]

On 6/28/2024 at 11:11 PM, Watching and Waiting said:

 

Oklahoma (USA) state superintendent orders schools to teach the Bible in grades 5-12

 

Described as the latest effort by conservatives to incorporate religion into classrooms.

 

Opposing quotes from the Council on American-Islamic Relations and Americans United for Separation of Church and State

Well this gives great opportunities for the young ones to give a witness!  They can volunteer to write a speech about the trinity, hellfire etc. Then maybe the powers that be will freak out and change the law again.  😂

[Thomas Walker]

1 hour ago, BLEmom said:

Well this gives great opportunities for the young ones to give a witness!  They can volunteer to write a speech about the trinity, hellfire etc. Then maybe the powers that be will freak out and change the law again.  😂

 

Well, see: That's the fatal flaw in teaching religion in schools. A JW student gives a speech about why the Trinity isn't supported, or Hellfire doesn't exist, and they get flunked by their teacher for 'getting the answer wrong'.

[GeordieGirl]

10 hours ago, chuck83 said:

Vatican excommunicates former US ambassador Vigano, declares him guilty of schism

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/vatican-excommunicates-former-us-ambassador-113619520.html

....... excommunication is considered a “medicinal” penalty and is declared in hope those who incurred it would repent and come back into communion. 

 

I wonder if the court in Norway will have anything to say about 'disfellowshipping' in the Catholic Church!!

Oh wait! Disfellowshipping and excommunication are totally different!! 🙄

[Parale]

‘Looney Tunes Jesus’ picture pulled from Sydney exhibition after protests

 

The mayor of Liverpool Council ordered the removal of an artwork, one of the finalists in the Blake Prize for religious or spiritual art, because the Christian community had taken offence “at Jesus Christ being portrayed as a Looney Tunes character”.

 

The removal followed a brief but intense campaign orchestrated by Charlie Bakhos, founder of Christian Lives Matter (CLM), a group of conservative Catholics who have led protests against same-sex marriage, abortion and transgender issues.

 

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/looney-tunes-jesus-picture-pulled-from-sydney-exhibition-after-protests-20240707-p5jrq3.html

 

 

 

Artwork featuring Christ overlaid with Looney Tunes characters removed by Sydney council after threats of violence

A Sydney council has removed a “playful” artwork of Jesus Christ overlaid with Looney Tunes characters after a torrent of online abuse.

Sydney artist Philjames’ work, Jesus Speaks to the Daughters of Jerusalem, was removed from the Blake Art Prize exhibition at the Casula Powerhouse Arts Centre after fierce criticism was directed at the artist and gallery on Friday, just two days before the eight-week exhibition ended.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/article/2024/jul/08/artwork-featuring-christ-overlaid-with-looney-tunes-characters-removed-by-sydney-council-after-threats-of-violence-ntwnfb

[ChrisW]

‘Some folks need killing’: North Carolina Lt. Gov takes Christian nationalism to dangerous low

Mark Robinson’s newly explicit calls for killing perceived enemies show how seamlessly Christian nationalists can glide into promoting real violence.

 

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/mark-robinson-north-carolina-killing-trump-rcna160433

[Lee49]

37 minutes ago, ChrisW said:

Mark Robinson’s newly explicit calls for killing perceived enemies show how seamlessly Christian nationalists can glide into promoting real violence.

"the church’s pastor, defended Robinson."   🙄  

[Dustparticle]

 I’m not advocating any violence. If anybody gets near my chocolate, then they will pay a heavy price for it.

[ChrisW]

Satanists to volunteer in Florida schools in protest at DeSantis religious bill

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/08/florida-satanic-temple-ron-desantis

[ChrisW]

I just am casually going through headlines and the decline of this world is just unreal. 

[Lee49]

Church gives away AR-15 as part of Fourth of July raffle

 

 A church in Tennessee held a raffle over Fourth of July weekend to give away an AR-15.

 The River of Tri-Cities Church in Johnson City said the raffle was a part of holiday celebrations, according to a report from WJHL.

 Pastor Todd Holmes told WJHL that the AR-15 was just one of many giveaways at the church, and he thought it was appropriate since it was in honor of Independence Day.   🤷‍♀️

https://www.wsmv.com/2024/07/08/church-gives-away-ar-15-part-fourth-july-raffle/

 

[chuck83]

Making A Messiah: Allies Cast Trump As Divine Commander Following Assassination Attempt
 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/making-a-messiah-allies-cast-trump-as-divine-commander-following-assassination-attempt/ar-BB1qeqTO

They call it political Christianity. Still sounds like Christian Nationalism to me. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[Mike047]

It doesn't sound like Christian anything to me

[Michał]

Well, it’s in the same boat with „Christian atheism”. Such a thing exists but how I have no idea.


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[Honeyflake]

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-shuts-down-islamic-center-hamburg/a-69747298
 

That's how quickly it can happen. The property became state property and the assets were confiscated.

[Ahuvah]

On 7/24/2024 at 11:44 PM, Honeyflake said:

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-shuts-down-islamic-center-hamburg/a-69747298
 

That's how quickly it can happen. The property became state property and the assets were confiscated.

And hello ... we are back on zoom. 

[ChrisW]

Trump tells Christians they won't have to vote after this election

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tells-christians-they-wont-have-vote-after-this-election-2024-07-27/

[Sheep]

46 minutes ago, ChrisW said:

Trump tells Christians they won't have to vote after this election

 

 

Quote

It was not clear what the former president meant by his remarks, in an election campaign where his Democratic opponents accuse him of being a threat to democracy. . .

That figures. Some think he intends to turn the USA into a dictatorship, with himself as dictator. Nobody votes for dictators, do they? They won't need to; he'll be a permanent president.

[Sofia]

2 hours ago, Sheep said:

 

 

That figures. Some think he intends to turn the USA into a dictatorship, with himself as dictator. Nobody votes for dictators, do they? They won't need to; he'll be a permanent president.

This looks like it

[LeolaRootStew]

The whole quote: 

 

Quote

Trump said: "Christians, get out and vote, just this time. "You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians."

 

He added: "I love you Christians. I'm a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don't have to vote again, we'll have it fixed so good you're not going to have to vote," Trump said.

 

Seems like the typical grandiose speech he usually gives.

[Ahuvah]

1 hour ago, LeolaRootStew said:

The whole quote: 

 

 

Seems like the typical grandiose speech he usually gives.

Thing is, I think being a Narcissist is a requirement for any Politician... the question is though, do they become Overt or Covert Narcissists? (Rhetorical question here, its a fleeting pondering as we can't diagnose individuals,  but an interesting brain exercise nonetheless)

[Jwanon]

On 7/8/2024 at 10:35 AM, Parale said:

‘Looney Tunes Jesus’ picture pulled from Sydney exhibition after protests

 

The mayor of Liverpool Council ordered the removal of an artwork, one of the finalists in the Blake Prize for religious or spiritual art, because the Christian community had taken offence “at Jesus Christ being portrayed as a Looney Tunes character”.

 

The removal followed a brief but intense campaign orchestrated by Charlie Bakhos, founder of Christian Lives Matter (CLM), a group of conservative Catholics who have led protests against same-sex marriage, abortion and transgender issues.

 

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/looney-tunes-jesus-picture-pulled-from-sydney-exhibition-after-protests-20240707-p5jrq3.html

 

 

 

Artwork featuring Christ overlaid with Looney Tunes characters removed by Sydney council after threats of violence

A Sydney council has removed a “playful” artwork of Jesus Christ overlaid with Looney Tunes characters after a torrent of online abuse.

Sydney artist Philjames’ work, Jesus Speaks to the Daughters of Jerusalem, was removed from the Blake Art Prize exhibition at the Casula Powerhouse Arts Centre after fierce criticism was directed at the artist and gallery on Friday, just two days before the eight-week exhibition ended.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/article/2024/jul/08/artwork-featuring-christ-overlaid-with-looney-tunes-characters-removed-by-sydney-council-after-threats-of-violence-ntwnfb

 

Why does it look like AI

[Ahuvah]

I have to subscribe to read it. 

[Sheep]

Yeah, me too.

[Mike047]

People make fun of what they don't understand, and to cover their ignorance.

[Dolce vita]

Liverpool Mayor Ned Mannoun called for the painting to be removed in the face of what he called "numerous complaints from many residents who were disgusted and offended by Liverpool City Council displaying this work of art." .

“The Christian Messiah and the Muslim Messiah Jesus have no connection with the cartoon character Goofy,” he said in a statement.

Charlie Bakhos, the founder of the conservative Catholic group Christian Lives Matter, told his supporters on social media that the "offensive and disrespectful art" had been removed.

“It’s a new attack on Christianity that we managed to stop thanks to everyone’s support. Let us continue to defend our faith with respect and we will get results because Jesus is on our side. »

Liverpool City Council's acting chief executive Jason Breton said the artwork was removed in response to the mayor's stance, safety concerns and community response.

Although Philjames said he was “absolutely happy to prioritize safety,” he was concerned the incident could set a precedent for limits on free speech.

“This is the most problematic for me: the mayor asked for the photo to be removed, putting politics before freedom of expression. Where does it stop? »

Mannoun said the right to freedom of expression must be balanced with the right to practice one's religion without fear, persecution or ridicule.

“Liverpool is one of the most religious LGAs in Sydney. Religious art must be respectful and unifying, and not a source of division and disrespect. »

He said he would make the same calls about art he considered anti-Semitic or derogatory to a religion.

Police were contacted to advise of potential disturbances around the artwork, the council confirmed.

The award is open to believers and non-believers and the prizes are strictly non-denominational. Philjames, whose work has been described as Kafkaesque and surreal, said he grew up attending Sunday school but was not religious.

“I find it all a bit absurd, it was a playful work. I like to incorporate cartoon characters into it, they deal with human issues,” he said.

“To be honest, there wasn’t really any meaning behind this work. It’s just a picture – choose your own adventure. »

The artist has absurdly treated many subjects, including Queen Elizabeth II, Donald Trump and Christopher Reeve. He is represented by the Chalk Horse gallery in Darlinghurst and has participated “numerously” in the Blake Prize.

He said he received an outpouring of support from the arts community over the weekend.

The organizers of the Blake Prize are no strangers to controversy. In 2011, artist Luke Roberts' triptych of depictions of the crucifixion featured an intersex woman wearing only a pink thong and nipple pom-poms.

This prompted the Anglican Bishop of South Sydney, Rob Forsyth, to say the works were "something he wouldn't be happy with", but that did not mean they should be banned.

In 2007, two Blake Prize works attracted criticism from John Howard and Kevin Rudd. One depicted the Virgin Mary wearing a Muslim burqa and the other merged an image of Osama bin Laden with that of Jesus Christ.

“The choice of such a work of art is gratuitously offensive to the religious beliefs of many Australians,” Howard told News Ltd newspapers at the time.blockquote widget