insight on the scriptures Insight on the Scriptures

[SteEis]

The book Insight on the Scriptures (it-1 [5411-1] / it-2 [5411-2]) is not available any more in English.

[Alexa]

I hope audio will come afterwards brother stefan  

[PJDriver]

40 minutes ago, SteEis said:

The book Insight on the Scriptures (it-1 [5411-1] / it-2 [5411-2]) is not available any more in English.

How do you know? I wonder why?

[SteEis]

Just now, Pjdriver said:

How do you know? I wonder why?

jw.org

[PJDriver]

How do you know?

I wonder why?

[mserskine]

It's still on JW Library and on the online library.

[PJDriver]

6 minutes ago, mserskine said:

It's still on JW Library and on the online library.

i think it just means that it's no longer available for download on jw.org

[jayrtom]

With an update at 2015 would be strange to be discontinued... 

[Tortuga]

2 hours ago, SteEis said:

The book Insight on the Scriptures (it-1 [5411-1] / it-2 [5411-2]) is not available any more in English.

Stefan, one of your tags is 'order', do you mean the hard copies are not available to be ordered?

[trottigy]

32 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

Stefan, one of your tags is 'order', do you mean the hard copies are not available to be ordered?

Yes, it is "currently not available" to order.

 

In my opinion - this is yet another way of cutting costs. We all have it electronically on our phones, tablets PCs and on wol.jw.org. Do we really need to give new students a paper copy?

Edited February 26, 2017 by trottigy

[Tortuga]

1 hour ago, Pjdriver said:

i think it just means that it's no longer available for download on jw.org

I think it means the hard copies are no longer available because it is available on JW.Org. 

Although I haven't checked yet...

[mserskine]

6 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

I think it means the hard copies are no longer available because it is available on JW.Org. 

Although I haven't checked yet...

It's NOT on JW.org. Just in JW Library, Watchtower online library and on the WT library DVD

[trottigy]

15 minutes ago, mserskine said:

It's NOT on JW.org. Just in JW Library, Watchtower online library and on the WT library DVD

Just a thought - isn't wol  a JW.org address? So, if it's available thru the Watchtower Online Library at jw.org doesn't that make it "on jw.org"?

 

Perhaps you mean - it isn't available as a PDF download any longer.

Edited February 26, 2017 by trottigy

[ChrisC]

42 minutes ago, trottigy said:

Yes, it is "currently not available" to order.

 

In my opinion - this is yet another way of cutting costs. We all have it electronically on our phones, tablets PCs and on wol.jw.org. Do we really need to give new students a paper copy?

 

What about the pictures and charts?

(I have them as PDFs in Documents 5 on my iPad. If anyone wants the links I will try to retrace my steps! 1988 printing.)

 

edit:

Maybe Brother Herd has nearly finished updating them. 

Edited February 26, 2017 by ChrisTheConfused

[ArthurW]

20 minutes ago, trottigy said:

Perhaps you mean - it isn't available as a PDF download any longer.

I don't recall them to have been ever available as a PDF download on JW.org

[James the Less]

7 minutes ago, ArthurW said:

I don't recall them to have been ever available as a PDF download on JW.org

Correct, the Insight volumes were never available to download from jw.org in the first place. I gather Stefan means that the hard copies are no longer available to request through the congregation. Again, though, this is nothing new - a letter to all congregations in November 2015 said that the Insight volumes would soon become unavailable to request once stock has been depleted at the branch. Apparently, stock of the Insight volumes has just been depleted. The letter went on to say, however, that if the items later become available, congregations will be notified by letter. So, we may at some time in the future see a return of the printed copies of the Insight volumes if the demand for them becomes particularly strong or for some other reason the branch sees fit.

[mserskine]

32 minutes ago, trottigy said:

Just a thought - isn't wol  a JW.org address? So, if it's available thru the Watchtower Online Library at jw.org doesn't that make it "on jw.org"?

 

Perhaps you mean - it isn't available as a PDF download any longer.

 

It is a JW.org address but what I meant is you can't download a copy in any format.

[Tortuga]

8 minutes ago, jscotchie said:

So, we may at some time in the future see a return of the printed copies of the Insight volumes if the demand for them becomes particularly strong or for some other reason the branch sees fit.

Yes, the brothers need time to add all of the information from the new scrolls. ...

[On the huh]

The 2015 update was never available as a printed hard copy.  I reckon there are copies around somewhere - in literature cupboards at KHs.  We have 2 sets in stock, not new - returned ones, good as new though so we kept them in case someone wanted a copy.  Nobody has requested a copy.   If they have a set already or use a digital one.  I think these were returned because the brothers simply didn't make use of them, only using digital versions.

 

Would like to see the JW Library / WT Library version updated with pictures and charts, and/or official PDF edition. 

Its like the 1984 Reference Bible.  Its still a good bible to use - footnotes, references etc that are not available anywhere else.  But no printed editions anymore - only digital.

 

Even commercial encyclopaedias are not In printed format anymore.   Britannica stopped it printed edition in 2012, even its DVD edition was stopped in 2015.  Now its online only.

[vern]

in the past the publications that fit the needs like the "Aid" book and the "Insight books' were replaced every 20 years or so...  I've been expecting them to do a replacement soonish for a few years.  being that we had a year of no publication.. maby this year will be a bigger convention release year?...  shrugs.... who knows...  they could change things up and just release stuff anytime they want without an assembly or convetion to do it with kingdom hall real time tie ins.  8D

[carlos]

Another thought: "Currently not available" is not the same as it will never be available again. Maybe the brothers are preparing a new edition with completely updated info, whether a printed edition or a complete digital edition with all pics and charts.

[Sepie93]

For a long long time (I don't know how it is now, but) only Volume 1 of Insight could be ordered in Dutch. I think because this one was still in stock..

It was possible to order Volume 2, but because Volume 2 became more like a "collectors item", I heard they stopped printing Volume 2.

So sometimes someone had to wait months or maybe a year to get a copy, (if the branch didn't cancel the order earlier)

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[dvds]

I think they could be updating the books, and for some time they're not available..