DISCUSS COURT CASE HERE JW.org - Jehovah’s Witnesses Mobilize Global Response to Threat of Ban in Russia

[campanula]

1 minute ago, Samira said:

16:32   Novakov recalls that the representative of the Ministry of Justice accused Jehovah's Witnesses in cynicism in his debates. "I'll tell you what cynicism is," Novakov said. When the Ministry of Justice in the court on an MPO first says that the rights of the CA are not affected, and then these decisions are presented as the basis for eliminating the CA. Or when the Ministry of Justice perceives much more harsh statements against Jehovah's Witnesses as "ordinary criticism", while calling "extremism" those statements that are far from extremism. When, contrary to the available data, the Ministry of Justice dismisses reports of falsification, it does not dare to cite cases when falsification is clearly fixed on the video. "That's what cynicism is!" Concludes Novakov.

Bravo!

[Gi-Gi]

Please tell me we won!!!!!! 

[Skye]

Such a powerful closing! Like Paul standing in the midst of the Areopagus! 

[Alexa]

16:40 A representative of Cherepanov begins his speech in the debate. He believes that if the court leaves Jehovah's Witnesses in the legal field, Russia will not only not suffer damage, but on the contrary will improve its reputation both inside the country and on the international arena. Decisions against Jehovah's Witnesses have been appealed to the ECHR and the UN Human Rights Committee.
16:45 "We have had good cooperation with the Justice Ministry for decades," says Cherepanov. "I think the Justice Ministry should feel in a sense our defender, he registered us!" Addressing to the representatives of the Ministry of Justice, Cherepanov said: "Let's be friends! Do not become a punitive body. We do not want to sue you, we ask that you help us, and do not look for a reason to close us. "

[sunshine]

Oh my, just caught up reading.... the brothers have taken off their gloves - if they go down they will go down swinging.  Powerful stuff.

 

Edited April 20, 2017 by sunshine

[Daniela]

So much I would like to be there, to hear these courageous Brothers fighting for the truth!!!

[Dages]

We have some very nice speeches here. Yearbook material for sure !

[Alexa]

16:47 Cherepanov talks about the problem of denigrating the good name of Jehovah's Witnesses in the media. Attributed to various atrocities, for example, "weaning apartments." Proving the falsity of this myth, Cherepanov recalls the biblical commandment "Do not covet someone else's".
16:50 "The strength of a powerful state is precisely to protect the interests of the minority, because the majority will stand for itself."

Full text of the speech by Sergey Cherepanov (PDF, 105 KB)

[Skye]

Cherepanov's words are truly touching- not words an enemy would utter. Only a loving person would say such words to someone not wishing them well. Truce! All JW in Russia want is the freedom to worship their God in peace. We are not interested in suing the MoJ.

 

"Let's be friends! Do not become a punitive body. We do not want to sue you, we ask that you help us, and do not look for a reason to close us." 

[EccentricM]

This experience is one for the history books. Makes me wonder about the "new scrolls" in paradise... 

 

Imagine if all of our "last days experiences" and struggles are written about in a similar fashion to how other biblical accounts are written. "Accounts of the last days and New Jerusalem".   

 

Though we won't "recall" perhaps just the pains we will not recall, but the experiences of Jehovah's people written down as an important part of the histories.  

[Adelin]

1 hour ago, Irving. said:

Here is the full speech of what was said if anyone want to read it.

 

Full text of the speech by Viktor Zhenkov (PDF, 171 KB)

 

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=3&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://jw-russia.org/sites/default/files/preniya_zhenkova.pdf&usg=ALkJrhgxZVYxFQzQST1PL5ziy5OVsE29fg

 

thanks much for this 

I would appreciate very much if you could post links for all the other transcripts

Thanks ;)

[Daniela]

10 minutes ago, Dages said:

We have some very nice speeches here. Yearbook material for sure !

Also jw broadcasting for sure!

 

I hope the Brothers  recorded everything for our spiritual heritage!

Edited April 20, 2017 by Daniela

[Alexa]

16:55 Respondent representative Kalin: "Unreasonable and reckless accusation of the Ministry of Justice not only degrades itself and its functions, but humiliates the entire state in the eyes of the international community. If a respected representative of the Ministry of Justice has personal convictions that Jehovah's Witnesses are extremists, I'm very sorry. If the representative of the Ministry of Justice was a victim of the circumstances in which he fell into, and is forced to perform just the role of accuser, I am also sorry. But in either case you will have to answer before your own conscience. "
15:56 Kalin recalls responsibility before God and says: "I take this opportunity to issue a warning to the Prosecutor General's Office and the Ministry of Justice. Please, come to your senses!Please, come to your senses!"

Full text of the speech of Vasily Kalin (PDF, 46 KB)
17:00 The parties exchange replicas.

Edited April 20, 2017 by Alexa

[Irving.]

Here is the full speech of what was said.

Full text of Maxim Novakov's speech (PDF, 125 KB)

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=5&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://jw-russia.org/sites/default/files/preniya_novakova.pdf&usg=ALkJrhjgpSOLlv_YgSG6nsz05GpwXHrUpA

[SUNRAY]

Wow! What a witness to all of the people of other organizations .. especially on human rights .. who are following this trial! 

[Foxes53]

Whatever the judgement of the court a very fine witness has been given. Jehovah has won this one whatever the earthly courts decide !

[sunshine]

I think we will have a verdict today or tomorrow. 

 

It was a very VERY courageous thing for the Brothers to call out the representative of Ministry of Justice personally.  I love that they have decided to end on a spiritual note calling them to recognize their actions before Jehovah.  I feel sure the angels applauded when these brothers finished.  I am very proud of them.

Edited April 20, 2017 by sunshine

[Bluebell]

17:00 The parties exchange replicas.

 

???? what does this mean???

[surfergirl]

1 hour ago, Alexa said:

They did not have any posters and they did not come out to protest the lawsuit that began in the Supreme Court on April 5, 2017. They went out to clean up the garbage that had accumulated over the winter. So who are these people? Extremists or good Christians?

Wow....Love this. What a comparison to Protestors of the world. 

 

I have loved every page.

been following through my emails. 

I pray Jehovah makes the Minister of "Justice"... be reasonable & show what true Justice means.

 

Thanks for all the posts friends.

[Dages]

Пожалуйста, одумайтесь

(pozhaluysta, odumaytes)

Please, come to your senses...

 

I like this.

Edited April 20, 2017 by Dages

[booboo]

2 minutes ago, sunshine said:

 

I think we will have a verdict today or tomorrow. 

 

I know Jehovah's got this, but I am anxious for the revealing of the outcome. 

Edited April 20, 2017 by booboo

[surfergirl]

4 minutes ago, Foxes53 said:

Whatever the judgement of the court a very fine witness has been given. Jehovah has won this one whatever the earthly courts decide !

Amen!!

[Bluebell]

17:09	Court retire to the deliberation room.

[Dages]

This is it, friends !

[Jf800]

live video!!!