DISCUSS COURT CASE HERE JW.org - Jehovah’s Witnesses Mobilize Global Response to Threat of Ban in Russia

[Raven]

2 minutes ago, sunshine said:

I agree brother David, but I'm alone in my flat so I must admit I shouted at my computer ...just a little  I have no doubt if I were in court the spirit would have calmed me down.  That and the brother or sister with me could have pinched me hard  

 

If you were in that court room, Jehovah would have calmed you.

[New World Explorer]

2 minutes ago, Zacchaeus The Short said:

I will stop copying the report using the Google translator.

 

Although here are the both links in case anyone like to use it:

 

https://jw-russia.org/pages/17040614-132.html#0406

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fjw-russia.org%2Fpages%2F17040614-132.html%230406&edit-text=&act=url

Don't stop ...  your petition is dismissed 

Continue please.. 

Edited April 6, 2017 by Gregexplore

[BibleSteve]

Zacchaeus the short please continue reporting, yours are the ones I am reading and many thanks to you for doing this


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[sunshine]

16"00  Question: What is the MPO?  Anyone?

[countrykaren]

6 minutes ago, sunshine said:

I agree brother David, but I'm alone in my flat so I must admit I shouted at my computer ...just a little  I have no doubt if I were in court the spirit would have calmed me down.  That and the brother or sister with me could have pinched me hard  

I would be so petrified I would have passed out

[Bluebell]

Just now, sunshine said:

16"00  Question: What is the MPO?  Anyone?

Congregations?

[LindaViktoria]

4 minutes ago, Zacchaeus The Short said:

I will stop copying the report using the Google translator.

 

Although here are the both links in case anyone like to use it:

 

https://jw-russia.org/pages/17040614-132.html#0406

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fjw-russia.org%2Fpages%2F17040614-132.html%230406&edit-text=&act=url

I appreciate your contribution brother. So kind of you to update us:)

 

thanks for the links!

[Raven]

4pm

Lawyers are unsuccessfully trying to find out exactly what human rights violations are meant. Females are trying to clarify the point "the failure to take effective measures to prevent extremist activity." He asked whether the Ministry of Justice knew about the timely letters sent by the center of Jehovah's Witnesses to all MROs about the inclusion of certain materials in the FSEM? The Ministry of Justice knows. The next question: what, in the opinion of the Ministry, would be an effective measure? The Ministry of Justice does not know the exact answer to this question. The lawyer asks the representative of the Ministry of Justice whether there is such a criterion of extremist activity as inaction. It's obvious to everyone that there is no such criterion.

[And_Ray]

2 minutes ago, sunshine said:

16"00  Question: What is the MPO?  Anyone?

Translation of LRO - Local Religious Organization

[sunshine]

so that's the congregations?

[Araujo JW]

I believe yesterday that the court had no idea that the trial would be transcribed. Today, with this information in mind they should be more considerate in seeking fair justice.

[UpstateKate]

4 minutes ago, sunshine said:

16"00  Question: What is the MPO?  Anyone?

I wonder if they meant MRO? It seems like this is the term used for congregations.

Edited April 6, 2017 by UpstateKate

[Daniela]

4pm

Lawyers are unsuccessfully trying to find out exactly what human rights violations are meant.

Females are trying to clarify the point "the failure to take effective measures to prevent extremist activity." He asked whether the Ministry of Justice knew about the timely letters sent by the center of Jehovah's Witnesses to all MROs about the inclusion of certain materials in the FSEM? The Ministry of Justice knows. The next question: what, in the opinion of the Ministry, would be an effective measure? The Ministry of Justice does not know the exact answer to this question. The lawyer asks the representative of the Ministry of Justice whether there is such a criterion of extremist activity as inaction. It's obvious to everyone that there is no such criterion.

 

So our letters arrived at the destination!

[Raven]

[And_Ray]

1 minute ago, sunshine said:

so that's the congregations?

Legal entities used by the organization. Like, sub-branches.. don't know exactly. Some legal stuff that exists only in Russia i guess

[Friends just call me Ross]

8 minutes ago, Zacchaeus The Short said:

I will stop copying the report using the Google translator.

 

Although here are the both links in case anyone like to use it:

 

https://jw-russia.org/pages/17040614-132.html#0406

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fjw-russia.org%2Fpages%2F17040614-132.html%230406&edit-text=&act=url

Wish you would continue.  You did such a great job yesterday.

[Bluebell]

local religious organizations (MPO)

[sunshine]

Daniela, I'm sure they did but that's not what I understand our lawyer is refering to...

[New World Explorer]

1 minute ago, Daniela said:

4pm

Lawyers are unsuccessfully trying to find out exactly what human rights violations are meant.

Females are trying to clarify the point "the failure to take effective measures to prevent extremist activity." He asked whether the Ministry of Justice knew about the timely letters sent by the center of Jehovah's Witnesses to all MROs about the inclusion of certain materials in the FSEM? The Ministry of Justice knows. The next question: what, in the opinion of the Ministry, would be an effective measure? The Ministry of Justice does not know the exact answer to this question. The lawyer asks the representative of the Ministry of Justice whether there is such a criterion of extremist activity as inaction. It's obvious to everyone that there is no such criterion.

 

So our letters arrived at the destination!

I don't think his is referring to our campaign letters 

[Raven]

Plenty of media attention too...

 

[Friends just call me Ross]

2 minutes ago, Daniela said:

4pm

Lawyers are unsuccessfully trying to find out exactly what human rights violations are meant.

Females are trying to clarify the point "the failure to take effective measures to prevent extremist activity." He asked whether the Ministry of Justice knew about the timely letters sent by the center of Jehovah's Witnesses to all MROs about the inclusion of certain materials in the FSEM? The Ministry of Justice knows. The next question: what, in the opinion of the Ministry, would be an effective measure? The Ministry of Justice does not know the exact answer to this question. The lawyer asks the representative of the Ministry of Justice whether there is such a criterion of extremist activity as inaction. It's obvious to everyone that there is no such criterion.

 

So our letters arrived at the destination!

Different letters than the ones we were asked to send.

[New World Explorer]

1 minute ago, Friends just call me Ross said:

Wish you would continue.  You did such a great job yesterday.

Yes please resume posting ...  

o.. Carlos ... Carlos .. you shot our soldier in the foot ! LOL

[Raven]

16:10	Zhenkov asks whether the Ministry of Justice knows that materials that are considered extremist constitute 0.1% of the entire literature of Jehovah's Witnesses. The Ministry of Justice does not know this. Is it known to the Ministry of Justice that the Rostov Regional Court, which recognized 34 publications of Jehovah's Witnesses as extremist, at the same time refused to recognize the extremist dozens of others.
16:19	Zhenkov clarifies whether it is known to the Ministry of Justice that literature has not been imported to Russia for two years. The Ministry of Justice knows this. Then there is a natural question, why exactly in 2017 the Ministry of Justice raised the issue of liquidation. The Ministry of Justice can not provide facts confirming that during the last 12 months the Management Center distributed "extremist" literature.
16:13	The Ministry of Justice informs that the date of entering materials into this list is not specified in the FEMC.
16:24	The judge asks the representative of the Ministry whether it is possible to file claims of the religious organization, as well as customs, for the fact that materials imported into the country that in the future will be considered extremist? How to know in advance what material will be included in the FEMC. The representative of the Ministry of Justice: no way, just turn to FSEM.

[Bluebell]

1 minute ago, Daniela said:

4pm

Lawyers are unsuccessfully trying to find out exactly what human rights violations are meant.

Females are trying to clarify the point "the failure to take effective measures to prevent extremist activity." He asked whether the Ministry of Justice knew about the timely letters sent by the center of Jehovah's Witnesses to all MROs about the inclusion of certain materials in the FSEM? The Ministry of Justice knows. The next question: what, in the opinion of the Ministry, would be an effective measure? The Ministry of Justice does not know the exact answer to this question. The lawyer asks the representative of the Ministry of Justice whether there is such a criterion of extremist activity as inaction. It's obvious to everyone that there is no such criterion.

 

So our letters arrived at the destination!

sorry Daniela...they meant the letters sent by the Branch to the congregations ask the brothers to remove

all the literature that the Russian classed as extremist.....

[molnarj]

Maybe it is best that one Person will copy the Information. Volunteers?