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  On 2/27/2018 at 12:42 AM, Saffron said:

Now you are going to make me listen again. Lol Oh well, I would have anyway. :D

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  On 2/27/2018 at 12:26 AM, cheesychat said:
It sounded like he was talking to Gilead graduates, but I don't remember hearing this before. Does anyone else recall it as part of any talk?
It is so good!

This was from morning worship at hq couple of months ago. The Gilead students attend together with bethelites.

🎵“I have listened to Jesus in these troublesome days,

He lights up my path.

As I hear and obey.”

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  On 2/27/2018 at 1:48 AM, Thesauron said:


This was from morning worship at hq couple of months ago. The Gilead students attend together with bethelites.

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Hmmm... they get to hear good stuff first :whistling:

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What concept would be so compelling? One of Satan's goals is to get humans to believe that Human rule is best - that it can ACTUALLY achieve "Peace and security". Soon we will hear them say that they ACTUALLY HAVE achieved it.

 

It will be interesting to see what can make them feel that they HAVE ACTUALLY acheived this. Could there be a "miracle" that the devil pulls off that will be convincing - signs and wonders that may even mislead the Holy ones (Matt 24:24)? Maybe. It is possible. I hadn't thought of that angle. Well, interesting times ahead.


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Plan ahead as if Armageddon will not come in your lifetime, but lead your life as if it will come tomorrow (w 2004 Dec. 1 page 29)

 

 

 

 

Soon .....

 

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  On 2/27/2018 at 4:38 AM, trottigy said:

What concept would be so compelling? One of Satan's goals is to get humans to believe that Human rule is best - that it can ACTUALLY achieve "Peace and security". Soon we will hear them say that they ACTUALLY HAVE achieved it.

 

It will be interesting to see what can make them feel that they HAVE ACTUALLY acheived this. Could there be a "miracle" that the devil pulls off that will be convincing - signs and wonders that may even mislead the Holy ones (Matt 24:24)? Maybe. It is possible. I hadn't thought of that angle. Well, interesting times ahead.


 

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What I took from this talk is that they make pronouncement of PS and Satan "pulls off" a "miracle" or sign pretending that the PS pronouncement has God's approval.

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  On 2/27/2018 at 4:45 AM, Gregexplore said:

What I took from this talk is that they make pronouncement of PS and Satan "pulls off" a "miracle" or sign pretending that the PS pronouncement has God's approval.

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Wow! I never heard him say anything about "God's approval" in the saying of P&S. I will listen to it again. 


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Plan ahead as if Armageddon will not come in your lifetime, but lead your life as if it will come tomorrow (w 2004 Dec. 1 page 29)

 

 

 

 

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  On 2/27/2018 at 4:47 AM, trottigy said:

 

 

Wow! I never heard him say anything about "God's approval". I will listen to it again. 

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Ha Ha ... of course you haven't

That's my take .. Statan performs sign for what purpose???  As..to mislead people even chosen ones ...


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  On 2/27/2018 at 4:50 AM, Gregexplore said:

Ha Ha ... of course you haven't

That's my take .. Statan performs sign for what purpose???  As..to mislead people even chosen ones ...


 

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Now THAT is what I got. So the "even" means - it will likely mislead most people BUT it may EVEN lead some of God's people astray.


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Plan ahead as if Armageddon will not come in your lifetime, but lead your life as if it will come tomorrow (w 2004 Dec. 1 page 29)

 

 

 

 

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  On 2/27/2018 at 4:51 AM, trottigy said:

 

Now THAT is what I got. So the "even" means - it will likely mislead most people BUT it may EVEN lead some of God's people astray.


 

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EVEN,  indicates powerful "stuff" (Sign, miracle) but we have been warned!

That's why keeping up with spiritual food and talks are so vital.

Jehovah prepares  us.

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  On 2/27/2018 at 4:55 AM, Gregexplore said:

EVEN,  indicates powerful "stuff" (Sign, miracle) but we have been warned!

That's why keeping up with spiritual food and talks are so vital.

Jehovah prepares  us.

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I am still not seeming to get it.

 

Let me quote the verse and see if you can help me:

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23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. 25 Look! I have forewarned you. 26 Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 28 Wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.

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To me it looks like he is saying " mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones" where do you see the "even" in reference to the miracles - as in "even miricales will be performed"?


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Plan ahead as if Armageddon will not come in your lifetime, but lead your life as if it will come tomorrow (w 2004 Dec. 1 page 29)

 

 

 

 

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  On 2/27/2018 at 5:03 AM, trottigy said:

 

I am still not seeming to get it.

 

Let me quote the verse and see if you can help me:

 

To me it looks like he is saying " mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones" where do you see the "even" in reference to the miracles - as in "even miricales will be performed"?


 

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And I saw three unclean inspired expressions that looked like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and they perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty. Rev 16:13,14

He quoted this scripture ...please listen again.

 

This, as far I am concerned never been mentioned before  - This talk deals with it.

 

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  On 2/27/2018 at 4:47 AM, trottigy said:

 

 

Wow! I never heard him say anything about "God's approval" in the saying of P&S. I will listen to it again. 


 

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Please listen carefully at 3.45min "backing of God"

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Just imagine:

 "Peace and Security". A declaration. Based upon what? Something very compelling. Perhaps accompanied by 'signs and wonders'.

 

Then, destruction of Babylon the Great.

Then a respite.

Then, our message changes to one of judgment.

 

Can you imagine, as the world celebrates peace, security and their human institutions, along we come with a strong judgment message !  WOW!!

The courage we will need is unimaginable.  We will have a sense of what it took for Noah and Jonah to accomplish their assignments.

 

And the theme for this year's RC?  Yep - Courage !

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  On 2/27/2018 at 6:33 AM, Stavro said:

Since this video is so densely packed and will probably be quoted in other threads, here's the transcript pulled from the subtitle (VTT) file, with minor edits for readability. (Remove timestamps and extra linebreaks.)

 

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Direct download: https://download-a.akamaihd.net/files/media_broadcasting/99/jwb_E_201802_12_r720P.vtt

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The whole universe of thanks! :D

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