The Mysterious Coronavirus Spreading Worldwide

[M.J.]

@Bob

If you notice, my above comments are all about how we can go the extra mile to keep neutral, avoid misunderstandings/confrontations, and not tempt our brothers. How we can take responsibility for our part. Regarding hypotheticals, meditation usually involves imagining what situations could develop and how they could affect ourselves or others. 

 

Your comments sound.....dismissive....

I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm just trying to explain why we are seeing things differently. No need to reply. I'm not looking to debate.

 

The moderators are simply asking us to refrain from political talk, and we can choose to comply with a willing spirit:

Edited October 10, 2020 by M.J.

[Hotteok]

An article I’ve just read says it’s almost impossible to make Covid19 vaccine that can get rid of it 100% and that it will stay with us forever.. 
Does it also mean, then, that our offline meeting is actually over for good, until GT comes? Is this the final gate through which we’ll enter the NW? 

[JennyM]

5 hours ago, M.J. said:

@Bob

If you notice, my above comments are all about how we can go the extra mile to keep neutral, avoid misunderstandings/confrontations, and not tempt our brothers. How we can take responsibility for our part. Regarding hypotheticals, meditation usually involves imagining what situations could develop and how they could affect ourselves or others. 

Thats the problem in online  group .. We don't know who's really the real 100% jw. and we don't know the  spiritual maturity of each and everyone. 

 

1 hour ago, VisualizeUrParadise said:

An article I’ve just read says it’s almost impossible to make Covid19 vaccine that can get rid of it 100% and that it will stay with us forever.. 
Does it also mean, then, that our offline meeting is actually over for good, until GT comes? Is this the final gate through which we’ll enter the NW? 

The GB helper said that we don't really know  where this pandemic leads to... We can't even preach to people that we don't know. We only preach to acquaintances and extended family members. 

Edited October 10, 2020 by JennyM

[BLEmom]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox8.com/news/coronavirus/ohio-reports-highest-number-of-coronavirus-cases-in-24-hour-span/amp/
 

Are the churches fully open in Ohio?

[Shawnster]

Churches were never closed in Ohio. Places of worship are exempt from Covid-19 restrictions 

 

https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/families-and-individuals/resources-for-parents-and-families/faith-based-letter

 

Quote

We have been very careful throughout this pandemic to exempt religious services from any regulations (The only exception to this is our recent mask order.).

 

[BLEmom]

1 minute ago, Shawnster said:

Churches were never closed in Ohio. Places of worship are exempt from Covid-19 restrictions 

Meanwhile the Orthodox Jews are creating a ruckus in New York. A sister was telling us this morning that a Jewish reporter got cornered and spit on and got called a Jewish word that means snitch.  

[Lee49]

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-10-10-20-intl/h_f5c5a3c83a998df49f61dae054643722

 

US records its third consecutive day of more than 50,000 coronavirus cases

 

 

Johns Hopkins University (JHU) reported 57,420 new positive cases in the United States on Friday.

The tally is the third consecutive day the US has seen more than 50,000 reported daily cases. Here are the figures:

Oct. 9: 57,420                 

Oct. 8: 56,191                

Oct. 7: 50,341                

The last time the US reported more than 50,000 cases for three consecutive days was in mid-August, according to data from the university.

Aug. 14: 64,601                

Aug. 13: 51,977                 

Aug. 12: 57,004   

Worrying trends are being recorded across the US. At least 22 states reported more than 1,000 new cases on Thursday. And the country's daily case count average — now more than 46,000 — has surged by 12% since the previous week............

[Allabord4Jah]

This item did not come from the best resource, but I couldn't find it in reasonable news agency's like NPR.  This was on the page of the Telegraph Oct 10, 2020: 

(PS) I tried to copy the caption but it wouldn't let me)

 

Millions will be ordered not to leave their local areas in new Covid clampdown

 

Pubs and bars in hotspots expected to close as regional leaders briefed by Downing Street on new system of restrictions

[Allabord4Jah]

I tried another page another page: Same paper The Telegraph = OCT 10, 2020

 

News

• Millions will be ordered not to leave their local areas in new Covid clampdown

  Pubs and bars in hotspots expected to close as regional leaders briefed by Downing Street on new system of restrictions

  By Edward Malnick
   

[CHecker]

Source not available 

 

Edited October 11, 2020 by bagwell1987

[Allabord4Jah]

10 hours ago, Lee49 said:

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-10-10-20-intl/h_f5c5a3c83a998df49f61dae054643722

 

US records its third consecutive day of more than 50,000 coronavirus cases

 

 

Johns Hopkins University (JHU) reported 57,420 new positive cases in the United States on Friday.

The tally is the third consecutive day the US has seen more than 50,000 reported daily cases. Here are the figures:

Oct. 9: 57,420                 

Oct. 8: 56,191                

Oct. 7: 50,341                

The last time the US reported more than 50,000 cases for three consecutive days was in mid-August, according to data from the university.

Aug. 14: 64,601                

Aug. 13: 51,977                 

Aug. 12: 57,004   

Worrying trends are being recorded across the US. At least 22 states reported more than 1,000 new cases on Thursday. And the country's daily case count average — now more than 46,000 — has surged by 12% since the previous week............

Don't forget to add you know who in D.C.  No one is really sure how he's cured in 3 days.  While thousands are dying or hospitalized worldwide, but in this country USA.

1 minute ago, bagwell1987 said:

The word 'Pubs' makes me think of European 

 

Pups make think of a mug of cool black beer!

[Old]

42 minutes ago, Allabord4Jah said:

This item did not come from the best resource, but I couldn't find it in reasonable news agency's like NPR.  This was on the page of the Telegraph Oct 10, 2020: 

(PS) I tried to copy the caption but it wouldn't let me)

 

Millions will be ordered not to leave their local areas in new Covid clampdown

 

Pubs and bars in hotspots expected to close as regional leaders briefed by Downing Street on new system of restrictions

Okay, so?

[JennyM]

43 minutes ago, Allabord4Jah said:

I tried another page another page: Same paper The Telegraph = OCT 10, 2020

 

News

• Millions will be ordered not to leave their local areas in new Covid clampdown

  Pubs and bars in hotspots expected to close as regional leaders briefed by Downing Street on new system of restrictions

  By Edward Malnick
   

Economy will fall then.. 

Here's the link below. 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/10/10/millions-will-ordered-not-leave-local-areas-new-covid-clampdown/ 

Edited October 11, 2020 by JennyM

[daydream]

On 10/10/2020 at 12:57 PM, Bob said:

 

 

Well, how people interpret that is on them. We have NO control over that.

 

 

You're dealing in hypotheticals. No one said discuss politicians. It just seems we are becoming judgmental of those who views are different from our own.

I wonder if this topic ought to be shielded from public views. Getting quite controversial.

Edited October 11, 2020 by Mclove

[Shawnster]

4 hours ago, Mclove said:

I wonder if this topic ought to be shielded from public views. Getting quite controversial.

Which is why we keep constantly asking /reminding members to remain neutral and keep this discussion about facts. Controversy has no place in this topic. 

 

As long as Coronavirus remains a global pandemic, it will remain a current news item. Christians should be able to discuss current news without controversy or taking up a political position. If we can't do so, then it's time that Christian avoids this topic. 

[Shawnster]

8 hours ago, Allabord4Jah said:

This item did not come from the best resource, but I couldn't find it in reasonable news agency's like NPR.  

This is a big indicator whether the story is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.  Is it opinion?  Is it fake news? 

 

If you can't find anything on mainstream news, then it should give you pause to proceed. 

 

Granted, not everything is always on mainstream news. For example, the Watergate scandal first broke in just one newspaper... yet, eventually toppled a President. We understand there can be scoops and stories other outlets miss. 

 

However, in this day and age we have to look at the reputation of the outlet or so called news website. We have to look at the tone of the story in question. We have to look at the tone of other stories on their site. 

 

It's sad... Woodward and Bernstein did not have to contend with fake news. 

[trottigy]

10 hours ago, Allabord4Jah said:

I tried another page another page: Same paper The Telegraph = OCT 10, 2020

 

News

• Millions will be ordered not to leave their local areas in new Covid clampdown

  Pubs and bars in hotspots expected to close as regional leaders briefed by Downing Street on new system of restrictions

  By Edward Malnick
   

This seems to be discussing the situation in the UK.

 

Here is a link to similar news item from the BBC

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54496508

 

They are really experiencing quite the spike:

 

We obviously wish everyone safety and good health. 

 

As to what the government will do there, we'll have to wait and see. Meanwhile, we can just remember the direction from the slave: wear a mask when we go out, wash our hands regularly and use hand sanitizer when we aren't around a good place to wash our hands. As to the economy - we know the US/ UK world power will still exist right to the end. Somehow they'll find a way to weather this.

 

Stay well.

[Bob]

Wow, WHO flipped their position on lockdowns. They know oppose lockdowns:

 

https://amp.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/coronavirus-who-backflips-on-virus-stance-by-condemning-lockdowns/news-story/f2188f2aebff1b7b291b297731c3da74

Edited October 11, 2020 by Bob

[Tortuga]

43 minutes ago, Bob said:

Wow, WHO flipped their position on lockdowns. They know oppose lockdowns:

 

https://amp.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/coronavirus-who-backflips-on-virus-stance-by-condemning-lockdowns/news-story/f2188f2aebff1b7b291b297731c3da74

"Dr. David Nabarro from the WHO appealed to world leaders yesterday, telling them to stop “using lockdowns as your primary control method” of the coronavirus."

“The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganize, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”

 

 

 

[Bob]

On 10/10/2020 at 2:03 PM, Lee49 said:

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-10-10-20-intl/h_f5c5a3c83a998df49f61dae054643722

 

US records its third consecutive day of more than 50,000 coronavirus cases

 

 

Johns Hopkins University (JHU) reported 57,420 new positive cases in the United States on Friday.

The tally is the third consecutive day the US has seen more than 50,000 reported daily cases. Here are the figures:

Oct. 9: 57,420                 

Oct. 8: 56,191                

Oct. 7: 50,341                

The last time the US reported more than 50,000 cases for three consecutive days was in mid-August, according to data from the university.

Aug. 14: 64,601                

Aug. 13: 51,977                 

Aug. 12: 57,004   

Worrying trends are being recorded across the US. At least 22 states reported more than 1,000 new cases on Thursday. And the country's daily case count average — now more than 46,000 — has surged by 12% since the previous week............

This could be because of the increased testing, not necessarily because of active spread. Identifying more cases will lead to more cases. The percent positive rate is what tells the entire story. 

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For the survivors, there can be serious long-term consequences.

NYTimes: ‘I Feel Like I Have Dementia’: How Brain Fog Plagues Covid-19 SurvivorsThe condition is affecting thousands of patients, impeding their ability to work and function in daily life.

The New York Times By Pam Belluck
Oct. 11, 2020 Updated 1:32 p.m. ET

After contracting the coronavirus in March, Michael Reagan lost all memory of his 12-day vacation in Paris, even though the trip was just a few weeks earlier.

Several weeks after Erica Taylor recovered from her Covid-19 symptoms of nausea and cough, she became confused and forgetful, failing to even recognize her own car, the only Toyota Prius in her apartment complex’s parking lot.

‘I Feel Like I Have Dementia’: How Brain Fog Plagues Covid-19 Survivors https://nyti.ms/3nFwnEg

Of the 28 Million or more that have 'survived' this could be just one of the many lingering issues.

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[Lewis]

New research on SARS-CoV-2 survivability according to Australian Centre for disease preparedness (ACDP)

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-10-sars-cov-virus-survivability.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/12/virus-that-causes-covid-19-can-survive-up-to-28-days-on-surfaces-scientists-find

 

 

* survives longer at lower temperature

* survives longer on non porous or smooth surfaces such as glass, stainless steel and vinyl compared to porous surfaces like cotton

* survives longer on paper banknotes than plastic banknotes

 

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38 Million marker
USA still tops the reported cases
India (#2) closes gap to under 1 Mill

The world is currently reporting a million new cases every 3 to 4 days

Old (Downunder) Tone
 

Edited October 12, 2020 by ➕👇 ꓤꓱꓷꓠꓵ🎵Tone

[Tbs77]

Covid-19 Reinfection Documented in Nevada Adds to Questions on Virus Immunity

https://apple.news/Avl03tRTpRBO29kOWnDUacw

Case of man reinfected with the coronavirus, reported in a Lancet medical journal, joins a number of Covid-19 second-cases world-wide

A Nevada man became the first published case of Covid-19 reinfection in the U.S., adding to a number of examples world-wide signaling that patients who have recovered from the viral disease might still be at risk of getting it again.

In a paper in the medical journal Lancet Infectious Diseases, a group of authors including University of Nevada researchers recount the case of a 25-year-old who suffered two bouts of Covid-19 infection, one confirmed through testing in mid-April and the second in early June. Symptoms of the second case started in late May, a month after the patient reported his initial symptoms as having resolved.

The two strains of virus were genetically distinct, signaling that it is unlikely that the man simply remained unknowingly infected with the virus in one, longer bout, the authors wrote. The paper notes that the patient’s second case of Covid-19 was more severe than his first, requiring supplemental oxygen and admission to a hospital after he suffered from shortness of breath.

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Good read. Ty.

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