Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[pnutts]

Have you noticed since the debacle on Friday, that Britain is forming a collision to defend Ukraine?

Just a thought the world is starting to use terms we have been given insight to!

 

[Tortuga]

44 minutes ago, pnutts said:

Have you noticed since the debacle on Friday, that Britain is forming a collision to defend Ukraine?

Just a thought the world is starting to use terms we have been given insight to!

 

I think it is going to be interesting to see other countries step up and help Ukraine, perhaps just to spite the US. How does that Make America Great Again? What will Trump do to regain the upper hand in the world? Interesting times ahead. 

[Ahuvah]

8 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

I think it is going to be interesting to see other countries step up and help Ukraine, perhaps just to spite the US. How does that Make America Great Again? What will Trump do to regain the upper hand in the world? Interesting times ahead. 

Interesting timing too. That better be caramel popcorn.

[New World Explorer]

2 hours ago, Mike047 said:

This is true, Amanda, but it is also true that we await the way things develop. Of, course, further developments will be explained by the GB in due course. 

But at this stage this is our current understanding and we show humility by recognizing this. 

What if GT starts today and further clarifications do not come? But instead we have message from the GB ..this is it! 

So it's very important to support our current understanding and any directions we have. 

[New World Explorer]

11 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

I think it is going to be interesting to see other countries step up and help Ukraine, perhaps just to spite the US. How does that Make America Great Again? What will Trump do to regain the upper hand in the world? Interesting times ahead. 

And what happened to the “art of the deal?” 
Instead of the deal we only have more division and instability. 
More reasons indeed to empower UN. 

[Ahuvah]

5 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

And what happened to the “art of the deal?” 
Instead of the deal we only have more division and instability. 
More reasons indeed to empower UN. 

IF Jehovah moves ... that's what I'm finding exciting ... to see if he's about to.

So will he do it in one day or less, or will he move them gradually like chess pieces then act swiftly. Thinking of Hezekiah and the Assyrians.

 

If I stop and think that how everything in history has been moving to this point, I get the chills.

Edited 15 hours ago by Ahuvah

[Áine]

12 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

But at this stage this is our current understanding and we show humility by recognizing this. 

What if GT starts today and further clarifications do not come? But instead we have message from the GB ..this is it! 

So it's very important to support our current understanding and any directions we have. 

I’ve often wondered if the GB will openly say this is it on the website or will it trickle around the world via a letter 

 

There is so much ahead of us shortly, everything from heavenly phenomena to the hailstone message and all at a time that Jehovah set a very long time ago 

[Ahuvah]

1 minute ago, Áine said:

There is so much ahead of us shortly, everything from heavenly phenomena to the hailstone message and all at a time that Jehovah set a very long time ago 

We had a talk just yesterday at our Sunday meeting talking about the celestial phenomena.  It was brilliant, i got the feeling that Jehovah was really trying to let us know the stream if time we are in. 

[Timl1980]

I have been watching world events even though I don't understand all of the politics behind them, especially in the past few days. My heart skips a beat every time something happens...so now I am trying to take a break since yesterday.

 

Our Watchtower study reader broke down in tears today while reading one of the paragraphs...he had to stop and restart several times...and I could just feel the sympathy from the rest of our little congregation.

 

Finally, he sat down after finishing the paragraph and had to compose himself. Our Watchtower study conductor took several more answers than normal for that paragraph...and afterwards everyone was hugging him and a few other people in our hall, (we just lost a 92 year old very faithful brother who sat time in prison for his faith...and another brother lost his wife to Alzheimer's last week as well).

 

Our reader told me that the words of that paragraph just hit him very deeply all of a sudden...and he just felt the weariness of this system and everything him and his family have been through over the past few years really hit home all of a sudden.

 

He said he is beyond ready for this system to end...and the recent events in the news have moved his "hope meter" over a few inches!

 

I completely understood his point...and it felt very good knowing we are all just feeling the same way!

 

 

 

 

 

[Ahuvah]

3 minutes ago, Timl1980 said:

Our Watchtower study reader broke down in tears today while reading one of the paragraphs...he had to stop and restart several times...and I could just feel the sympathy from the rest of our little congregation.

❤️ 💙 💜 💖 

 

It's good to speak these things. It consolidates everything we are all feeling.

Edited 15 hours ago by Ahuvah

[Richie]

1 hour ago, pnutts said:

Have you noticed since the debacle on Friday, that Britain is forming a collision to defend Ukraine?

Just a thought the world is starting to use terms we have been given insight to!

 

European leaders pledged to support Ukraine

The British prime minister, Keir Starmer, declared yesterday that “we are at a crossroads in history,” and announced that European countries would assemble a “coalition of the willing” to defend Ukraine against Russia. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/03/02/us/trump-news-zelensky-europe/here-is-the-latest?campaign_id=7&emc=edit_mbae_20250302&instance_id=148894&nl=morning-briefing:-asia-pacific-edition&regi_id=198212669&segment_id=192360&smid=url-share&user_id=8e0b5d850b7be4d067ea24d7403f7e52

 

 

Most of us may surprise if events will go like this... But some of us are strengthened and encouraged because now we are watching how the Scriptures unfold the perplexing words. 

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[Richie]

54 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

But at this stage this is our current understanding and we show humility by recognizing this. 

What if GT starts today and further clarifications do not come? But instead we have message from the GB ..this is it! 

So it's very important to support our current understanding and any directions we have. 

We must support our current understanding in public stage. For sure, some also keep interpretation in private and we are happy if these become reliality and become our understanding. 

[ChrisC]

1 hour ago, Tortuga said:

I think it is going to be interesting to see other countries step up and help Ukraine, perhaps just to spite the US. How does that Make America Great Again? What will Trump do to regain the upper hand in the world? Interesting times ahead. 

 

I’ve read two or three times that POTUS really wants to win the Nobel Peace Prize.

(it would partly explain why he went charging in with his Gaza plan.)

 

Would he cooperate with a peace plan that wasn't his idea, and that he wasn't the centre of?

Or would he be even more inclined to withdraw the USA from NATO, out of spite?

Would this embolden the K-of-TN?

 

There really are so many variables.

[Richie]

41 minutes ago, Ahuvah said:

We had a talk just yesterday at our Sunday meeting talking about the celestial phenomena.  It was brilliant, i got the feeling that Jehovah was really trying to let us know the stream if time we are in. 

Today, GB is more interested on how we can cultivate and refine our Christian qualities that I believe are so essential to our survival. 

[Tortuga]

Interesting article about what happened in the White House. The writer suggests that it was a set-up and Trump is a master chess player of politics.

 

Interestingly he says that if Ukraine does sign the mineral deal, it puts the USA on Ukraine soil and any aggression by Russia would affect the USA.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-appears-to-confirm-real-reason-behind-set-up-zelensky-takedown-with-jd-vance/ar-AA1A6ACz?ocid=socialshare&cvid=c4ff19a5f20d41268e297d7c723225e1&ei=18

Edited 13 hours ago by Tortuga

[Ahuvah]

3 hours ago, Richie said:

Today, GB is more interested on how we can cultivate and refine our Christian qualities that I believe are so essential to our survival. 

So, I should dismiss yesterday's talk then? 

 

I think the two go hand in hand, knowing the stream of time and working on ourselves. That being said, even if it is years off we should be working on our personalities all the time.

 

I re-iterate, it was a very good talk with the appropriate amount of urgency.

Edited 11 hours ago by Ahuvah

[Doug]

3 hours ago, Tortuga said:

 

Interestingly he says that if Ukraine does sign the mineral deal, it puts the USA on Ukraine soil and any aggression by Russia would affect the USA.

 

 

This reminds me of the mobsters of New York, among other places.

They would offer a small business owner "protection".

Business owner would ask "Protection from who?"

Mobster would tell him "From people like me. We will make sure nobody bothers you, not even us"

Trump is saying Putin needs to watch himself because USA is doing business over there.

[BLEmom]

3 hours ago, Tortuga said:

Interesting article about what happened in the White House. The writer suggests that it was a set-up and Trump is a master chess player of politics.

 

Interestingly he says that if Ukraine does sign the mineral deal, it puts the USA on Ukraine soil and any aggression by Russia would affect the USA.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-appears-to-confirm-real-reason-behind-set-up-zelensky-takedown-with-jd-vance/ar-AA1A6ACz?ocid=socialshare&cvid=c4ff19a5f20d41268e297d7c723225e1&ei=18

I agree that US would be on Ukrainian soil. I guess that could help. Maybe. 
I don’t agree that Trump is 10 steps ahead of everyone. He is too reactive. Half the time he’s saying stuff off the cuff. “Zelenskyy is a dictator.  Oh did I say that?”  I bet he claims he’s a dictator again soon. In order to be ahead of everyone , you have to know where you are first and he tends to jump all over the place depending on his mood. 

[Dolce vita]

6 hours ago, Ahuvah said:

So, I should dismiss yesterday's talk then? 

 

I think the two go hand in hand, knowing the stream of time and working on ourselves. That being said, even if it is years off we should be working on our personalities all the time.

 

I re-iterate, it was a very good talk with the appropriate amount of urgency.

I believe, dear Sister @Ahuvah, that there are as many possible interpretations as there are political scientists, which is probably why Jehovah asks us to align ourselves wisely with what the FDS says about the situation. However, this does not mean that we should ignore what is happening and being said, far, far from it, It's even exciting to follow.❤️

[Godskingdomrules]

Its very hard not to form opinions and to take sides in the current state of affairs, thankfully we have Gods kingdom that will solve everything.

 

That being said i do understand both sides.

One side wants to continue the war aslong as it takes peace through strength, to make sure russia does not invade again. The other side wants to stop the senseless killing recognising that russia is not going to give up any land at any cost. The later is the most obvious and its probably more sided with the US administration. But it seems the former will just say that you are influenced by russian propaganda. Its the same old nationalism rehtoric fight until democracy is achieved, but is it really worth the killing as a human iife is precious.

 

Where do you go from here! Stop the senseless killing or stick it out so it does not happen again.

 

I think we know according to Gods word that the Kotn will still play a strong hand all the way to the GT