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I was going to make a fine comment about the over 80's, but have forgotten what it was

This is a vey good point, Annie, and we know that the GB will always have 'food for us at the proper time', so they will always have information that prepares them, and they will prayerfully know when to pass it on to us.

I see you feel confused by this point, Hannah, but news articles about other European nations, like France and Norway seem to be moving in that direction. Whatever the case, if and when any of these nations bring back in conscription, as a result of the fragile peace between Russia and other parts of Europe, this may also be a trigger for further restrictions against Jehovah's people. This was part of my reasoning.

Sneezed, yes - It was written and sung as a song by the popular folk singer Tom Glazer in 1963, and the tune of the song matches with a traditional folk song, 'on top of old smokey'.

About that .... Trump is giving Russia almost everything it wants with his Ukraine peace plan https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/21/europe/ukraine-russia-trump-peace-analysis-intl

Jehovah M. U. S. T. cut it short, because the remaining chosen ones are the last to fill the seats of the 24 Elders as Revelation 4:4 states. “Who are these elders? They are none other than anointed ones of the Christian congregation, [1. (heavenly)] resurrected and 2.) occupying the heavenly position Jehovah promised them.” - Chapter 14, The Magnificence of Jehovah’s Celestial Throne, Revelation Book. (I forgot which book, it says they become “Numerically complete Bride Class”)

I notice that has not change. The idea that the 10 horns (nations) will devastate BtG has not changed. However, I note the difference highlighted in 2 recent illustrations is that the "order" to devastate BtG is correctly attributed to the UN. How this relates to the declaration of P&S remains to be seen. {imo}

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Best writing yet, Dalphabetsp. When I worked in a Chinese restaurant, they pronounced it, Rangoon, further confusing English speaking staff. Most of the foods served in that restaurant were not native Cantonese fare, but born in the USA.

On top of spaghetti all covered with cheese, I lost my poor meatball when somebody sneezed.

When Beauty First Opened Her Eyes — a Glimpse of Wonder entry™ — Jehovah surveyed the living world on the sixth day, and the inspired record says something simple and steady: “God saw everything he had made, and look! it was very good.” (Genesis 1:31) Animals were good because they were complete. Plants were good because they fulfilled their role. Trees were good because they supported life. Humans were good because they were made to live forever. We picture Eve through a modern lens — perfect features, flawless symmetry, polished beauty shaped by a thousand borrowed opinions. But none of that existed then. Before mirrors, before comparison, before insecurity, beauty opened her eyes in a world where only two beings saw her: Jehovah… and then Adam. Jehovah saw her first. A woman whole, spiritually clean, strong, balanced, unmarred by fear or distortion. He saw that she was good — not by cultural standard, but by divine assessment. Then Adam looked at her, and his reaction came from recognition, not imagination. “This is at last bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh.” (Genesis 2:23) She was matched to his eyes, his heart, his needs, and the life he was meant to share. But perhaps our strongest clue about beauty comes later in the Bible. When Job’s ordeal ended, the record gives a detail Jehovah wanted preserved: “In all the land no women were found as beautiful as Job’s daughters.” (Job 42:15) Their beauty wasn’t the world’s idea — it was beauty Jehovah himself acknowledged. A beauty shaped by dignity, purity, and spiritual clarity. That’s the beauty Jehovah values. That’s the beauty Adam saw. That’s the beauty a faithful spouse reflects. That’s the beauty that grows with loyalty to Him. Physical beauty fades. Preferences shift. Opinions rearrange themselves every generation. But spiritual beauty stays steady across every age. When Jehovah looks at a person, He does not measure features. He measures loyalty. Faith. Reverence. Devotion. Those are beautiful to Him. The kind of beauty that never breaks down. The kind of beauty that made Eve “good” in Jehovah’s eyes. The kind of beauty reflected in a spouse who loves Him. The kind of beauty that will endure into the new world. In the new world, beauty will finally make sense again. Not the kind shaped by culture, not the kind filtered through insecurity, but the kind that grows from a clean heart. Every person will stand healthy again. Every mind clear. Every body whole. Every soul steady in loyalty to Jehovah. And the beauty within — the loyalty, the faith, the devotion — will finally fill the outside too. The world will be full of men and women whose appearance matches their spirit: strong, balanced, joyful, and alive in the way Jehovah intended from the beginning. That’s the beauty that will rise again. That’s the beauty Jehovah has always seen. That’s the beauty the new world will be full of. And that — that is the real wonder. A Glimpse of "good" Creation

Anointed get their final sealing either before they die or before GT starts. It makes no sense to me if they get the final sealing up to 1-3 years before going to heaven…

“Does the holy spirit act as a helper to servants of God today? Definitely! Of course, the holy spirit does not put into our minds things that we have never learned, but it does act as a helper to bring back to our minds important things that we have studied in the past. (Luke 11:13; 1 John 5:14) Then, as the need arises, our thinking faculties are stirred to “remember the sayings previously spoken by the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior.”—2 Pet. 3:1, 2.” - You Can Improve Your Memory, Benefit From Theocratic Ministry School Education I believe you always do your work @Dhanyel, rest assured that when time comes, Jehovah will do His as well. “Because everything we have done You have accomplished for us. - Isaiah 26:12.

Well there those in Christendom that teach 31/2 to 7 years .. taking favourite time periods from Daniel and Revelation. We don’t see it those terms. Looking for some mathematical/spiritual formula. Bottom line is Jehovah hasn’t told us .. It seems to more about substance or purpose then exact time. So what basically is the purpose or the great tribulation. (There are obviously a few more steps) 1)to remove false religion 2)expose the futility of human rulership 3)vindicate Jehovah’s sovereignty 4)and usher in Armageddon 5) leading to a new world of peace and righteousness The descriptors are symbolic of brevity and suddenness, not exact measurements. such as one day… one hour.. swiftly .. quickly..cut short.. unexpected..etc. So on the big list .. check .. check…check ..check .. check.. no need to dally Done .. Graduation party from this old world ..check

Sorry, I missed opening posts on this thread, which explained it.

Thanks, Sis, I am also in my 70s and was wondering if this was from an age-study being carried on.

Because I'm in my early seventies and am showing signs of extreme forgetfulness. I had suffered the trauma of seeing my mother in her 70's and my sister in law in her 80's undergo various degrees of dementia. Pardon me if I forgot about those who are younger than me, probably a sign of my cognitive degeneration. ☺️

Why for those in their seventies?

Laws can start as ideas called bills (not Williams) and are then processed and may be studied or voted on.

Ordinance sounds like a big word for rules/laws.

Lot sizes vary greatly in many cities so, since some people found that, on a small lot they could build a Tiny House to live in, many cities decided they didn't like that and made it difficult to place a tiny house on a small lot by enacting new rules thus making a tiny house against the new ordinance.

"Plethora" that means a lot.

When someone finally admits, “If Jehovah hadn’t been my helper, I’d be gone,” that’s not drama — that’s honesty. Weakness doesn’t shame a servant of Jehovah; hiding it does. And the brother mentioned here didn’t hide. He fought through desires that didn’t magically disappear just because he learned the truth. He stayed in the struggle long enough to feel what happens when Jehovah steps in and holds the line for you. Now that is the real lesson for us: Jehovah doesn’t wait for a perfect version of you. He strengthens the version that’s still limping, still sorting things out, still wrestling with the same old weakness at 2:00 a.m. That’s where his spirit shows up. Not in the polished moments — in the private ones. And if Jehovah can steady a man coming out of a life that deep, then he can steady you, me, or anyone who feels like they’re one bad day from sinking. The Psalm says it straight: “If Jehovah had not been my helper…” (Psalm 94:17, NWT). That isn’t poetry. That’s survival. And it’s still true for every loyal heart holding on today.

It is worth remembering some recent new understandings. _________________________________________________________________________________ 12 Even after the great tribulation starts, it is possible that some who see the destruction of “Babylon the Great” will recall that Jehovah’s Witnesses had long spoken of this event. Might some who see these events have a change of heart?—Rev. 17:5; Ezek. 33:33. 13 Such an outcome would be similar to what occurred in Egypt in Moses’ day. Recall that “a vast mixed company” joined Israel in the Exodus. Some of these individuals may have started to develop faith when they saw that Moses’ warnings about the Ten Plagues came true. (Ex. 12:38) If a similar development should occur following the destruction of Babylon the Great, would we be disappointed that people were able to join us shortly before the end comes? Of course not! We want to reflect the personality of our heavenly Father, “a God merciful and compassionate, slow to anger and abundant in loyal love and truth.” —Ex. 34:6. https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-may-2024/What-Do-We-Know-About-Jehovahs-Future-Judgments/#:~:text=12%20Even%20after,34%3A6. _________________________________________________________________________________ 15 It is also reasonable to conclude that a person’s eternal future does not depend on where he happens to live. It is unthinkable that Jehovah would automatically label as “goats” millions of people who live in lands where they never had an opportunity to respond to the Kingdom message. (Matt. 25:46) The righteous Judge of all the earth cares even more about these individuals than we ever could. We do not know how Jehovah will maneuver events during the great tribulation. Perhaps some of these people will have an opportunity to learn about Jehovah, put faith in him, and take their stand on Jehovah’s side when he sanctifies himself before all nations.—Ezek. 38:16. After the great tribulation starts, . . . might some who see these events have a change of heart? https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-may-2024/What-Do-We-Know-About-Jehovahs-Future-Judgments/#:~:text=15%20It%20is,change%20of%20heart%3F _________________________________________________________________________________ Previously, we understood that we would stop preaching the good news when the great tribulation began with the destruction of Babylon the Great. (Rev. 17:3, 5, 15, 16) This event, we believed, would mark the end of the figurative “year of Jehovah’s goodwill.” (Isa. 61:2) We also felt that those who would survive the great tribulation would prove their devotion to Jehovah before that event. We compared them to the Jews who survived the destruction of Jerusalem in 607 B.C.E. These individuals had been marked for survival earlier because they worshipped Jehovah and hated wickedness. (Ezek. 5:11; 9:4) That comparison, however, does not harmonize with Jesus’ words found at Matthew 24:14, which indicate that people may have the opportunity to respond to the good news until just before the final end at Armageddon. https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=T&docid=2025527&par=4&srcid=share _________________________________________________________________________________ Note, too, that the symbolic hailstorm will be “unusually great.” This suggests that during the great tribulation, the preaching work may become more hard-hitting, that is, Jehovah’s name will be made known as never before. (Ezek. 39:7) At that late point in time, after the destruction of Babylon the Great, will some be drawn to the message as to a sweet fragrance? This is quite possible. Perhaps they may recall or learn that for many years Jehovah’s Witnesses had announced the end of false religion. https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-august-2025/questions-from-readers/#p6 _________________________________________________________________________________ 12 Our clear understanding of Jehovah’s mercy can help us to remain hopeful. When false religion comes to an end, our relatives may recall that we had told them about this event. (Rev. 17:16) They may even join us in pure worship after the great tribulation starts. And if our relatives are facing hard times now, we will certainly do all we can to be there for them. Perhaps they will be more receptive to Bible truths as they see that our love and kindness are genuine. https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2026281&par=21&srcid=share How long will the great tribulation last? From what we read in the Bible and in the publications of the faithful and discreet slave, it seems reasonable to believe that it will not last many years. If it is years, it seems that it will be few years. How many? Less than 10? Seven years? Three and a half years? Two years, one year? A few months? In fact, it is not easy to predict. But, the closer we get to that period, the more the light becomes clearer and it becomes easier to discern how long the phases of the great tribulation will last. Before the recent understandings, we may have imagined that with the proclamation of peace and security occurring first, the sudden destruction of Babylon the Great and Satan's entire system would happen very soon after, perhaps almost instantaneously. We thought that the preaching would stop and no one would have any more opportunity to take a stand for Jehovah. But, after the adjustments, we realize that Jehovah still wants to save many lives. And we are amazed at Jehovah's patience and mercy. To ensure ample opportunity is given and no one will question in the future that there was some flaw in the judgment process of the sheep and goats due to insufficient time for a favorable reaction to the judgment message, we cannot rule out the possibility that, after the destruction of Babylon the Great, this period may last longer than we previously imagined, perhaps even several years. Obviously not many years or decades, since the prophecy says that “sudden and instantaneous” destruction will come soon after the proclamation of Peace and Security, but it seems reasonable to believe that Jehovah will allow sufficient time for Him to be recognized as a gracious and merciful God. Currently, many study with us and even agree with our beliefs. But they are reluctant to attend our meetings for fear of displeasing family and friends and because, deep down, they have not fully understood the truth and are still attached to their form of worship. But the scenario will be completely different after the destruction of false religions. The Bible shows that people returned to worshiping Jehovah when a good king destroyed the altars and idols of false worship. Can you imagine when sincere people of traditional religions realize that there is only one active religion on Earth proclaiming a biblical message of judgment in a more intensified way than ever before? And when they realize that this organization had accurately predicted the time when the UN would receive all power and authority, that it would eliminate false religion, and that world leaders would think they were bringing a new era of peace and security to the Earth? And beyond all this, we do not know what else Jehovah may do at that crucial time to testify beyond any doubt who his people on Earth truly are. After all, he does not want anyone to be destroyed. Does it not seem reasonable to conclude that many who are now reluctant to take a stand for the truth and other sincere people may turn to true worship and decide to support Christ's brothers, thus qualifying to be part of the great crowd?

I’m so disappointed. I trusted BBC.