The Mysterious Coronavirus Spreading Worldwide

[BenJepthah]

https://thepuristonline.com/2020/04/chris-cuomos-corona-protocol-week-two/
 

so, Hydroxychloroquine is dangerous , life threatening, bad and unproven . But Quinine is fine?? Humans

[hatcheckgirl]

7 hours ago, Bob said:

The only problem I can see with stories like this

She was definitely sick again. The doctors would have investigated all possibilities to eliminate covid on  the second and now third time. It is a very unusual disease and it doesn’t act in the same way as they expect it, as previous viruses have. You can’t assume immunity. Some people don’t recover in 14 days and stay infectious for much longer. She’s one of quite a few showing this. It’s still early days with this virus and too many strange things are happening. 

[Bob]

1 hour ago, hatcheckgirl said:

She was definitely sick again. The doctors would have investigated all possibilities to eliminate covid on  the second and now third time. It is a very unusual disease and it doesn’t act in the same way as they expect it, as previous viruses have. You can’t assume immunity. Some people don’t recover in 14 days and stay infectious for much longer. She’s one of quite a few showing this. It’s still early days with this virus and too many strange things are happening. 

Well, honestly, I would like to believe that, but the article did not specify they checked for other possibilities other than Covid. Also, I understand why they attributed it to Covid because of the symptoms, however, since many doctors were fooled by the flu-like symptoms early on in the outbreak, the same thing probably happened here especially seeing another positive test. 

 

But we won't know for sure unless some other detailed information comes out. 

[hatcheckgirl]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/covid-fatigue-one-of-worst-symptons-patients-say/12252602

 

Another example of an infections specialist doctor, who has covid.

 

“Professor Garner is just one of thousands discovering how tiring COVID-19 can be.

Scientists are still uncovering the deadly secrets of the virus and the long-term impact for those who recover from the disease is yet to be fully understood.

In serious cases there are concerns about major organ damage.

The World Health Organisation states those with less severe cases of COVID-19 should recover within two weeks, and serious cases could take up to six weeks.

But even patients with what are considered mild bouts of the virus, are experiencing fatigue and breathlessness well beyond the suggested recovery period.”

[hatcheckgirl]

24 minutes ago, Bob said:

the article did not specify they checked for other possibilities other than Covid.

Both articles I quoted are from ABC Australia’s 7:30 Report, an investigative current affairs show.

 

In the second article it says regarding a year long study on covid:

 

“We're interested in even the milder cases, whether there is an ongoing effect on people's health, what we call a post viral fatigue; effects on people's exercise tolerance, on neuro-cognitive function, so ability to concentrate.

"We know that you can get post viral fatigue with other viruses and glandular fever is probably the classic one, but Ross River fever and other viral illnesses are well known to cause viral fatigue."

 

To me it shows they are fully investigating all the possibilities regarding it being other diseases and not a recurrence of covid. There are many other similar stories from other countries too. Don’t have time to dredge them up now. But what it shows me at least, is that this is a highly tricky virus to deal with. It can manifest in unpredictable ways.

 

And our health is more important than the economy when you take it to the nth degree. Because the reality is, it’s not just hitting the oldies as a lot of folks eager to open up are claiming.  It’s hitting doctors and nurses and other frontline healthcare workers. Who is going to protect us if they get overwhelmed? Our trust is in Jehovah, because I can’t see the US among other governments caring beyond their own economic needs.

[Tortuga]

I want a TShirt that I can wear when I go shopping.

 

"Typhoid Mary was asymptomatic too, please wear a mask"

 

 

[Bob]

10 hours ago, hatcheckgirl said:

And our health is more important than the economy when you take it to the nth degree.

Good points. I love talking about this. Thanks for discussing!

 

Is our health more important than our economy (or more specifically our ability to earn income)?

 

No - they are equally important. Because in this country, economy contributes to good health. Being able to earn money buys us healthy food, medicine, housing etc... stuff we need to have good health. 
 

No economy means no ability to earn. No ability to earn means you can’t protect yourself or your health. And I’m speaking about our country only. 
 

So no I do not personally agree with that statement, but I understand the point I hope!
 

That’s why I always wanted a balance approached.

 

Child abuse, alcohol abuse, suicides, depression, have all increased since the lockdowns. 
 

So it’s actually contributed to BAD health as well. 

Edited May 21, 2020 by Bob

[Bob]

10 hours ago, hatcheckgirl said:

Because the reality is, it’s not just hitting the oldies as a lot of folks eager to open up are claiming.  It’s hitting doctors and nurses and other frontline healthcare workers. Who is going to protect us if they get overwhelmed? Our trust is in Jehovah, because I can’t see the US among other governments caring beyond their own economic needs.

I wanted to address this separately. I don't think I've heard anyone say its only hitting the most vulnerable, because we all know even young people have died (thought not in large numbers). What people are saying is that the focus should be protecting those with weak immune systems and allowing the younger more healthy people to live something of a normal life until a vaccine or treatment comes open because we need a "life" to come back to. Its a hard truth. We cannot stay locked in forever. 

 

The healthcare system has not been overwhelmed. And it won't be. People are terrified of other human beings now. I go to the store and they even avoid eye contact. So the point is, we have become so risk averse that the spread will stay relatively slow. The system will be ready for people who happen to get sick and need to go to doctor. 

 

So I am not terribly concerned about that happening. Not right now, anyway. 

[JennyM]

5 minutes ago, Bob said:

 

The healthcare system has not been overwhelmed. And it won't be. People are terrified of other human beings now. I go to the store and they even avoid eye contact. So the point is, we have become so risk averse that the spread will stay relatively slow. The system will be ready for people who happen to get sick and need to go to doctor. 

 

So I am not terribly concerned about that happening. Not right now, anyway. 

This is going to be the new normal..   The 1918 pandemic legacy was  stretched  up to 1940.  

People will be anxious of their fellows , things , and public gatherings. 

[Bob]

18 minutes ago, JennyM said:

This is going to be the new normal..   The 1918 pandemic legacy was  stretched  up to 1940.  

People will be anxious of their fellows , things , and public gatherings. 

Well, I’m not sure if people wore masks and avoided gathering with family and friends for 22 years back then. I would need to research it, however. 

 

New sports like the NBA started in 1919 and NFL in 1920 and popularity only rose, so people attended sporting events.

 

The “new normal” was only temporary. It’s not in human nature to avoid physical contact with other humans indefinitely. 

Edited May 21, 2020 by Bob

[JennyM]

11 minutes ago, Bob said:

Well, I’m not sure if people wore masks and avoided gathering with family and friends for 22 years back then. I would need to research it, however. 

 

New sports like the NBA started in 1919 and NFL in 1920 and popularity only rose, so people attended sporting events.

 

The “new normal” was only temporary. It’s not in human nature to avoid physical contact with other humans indefinitely. 

oh ok.. especially when there are no new cases. Humans easily forget.. But still I think people are in fear now. 

[Bob]

9 minutes ago, JennyM said:

oh ok.. especially when there are no new cases. Humans easily forget.. But still I think people are in fear now. 

Agreed 

[BenJepthah]

Recent origin theory : The source was a research bat sold as surplus from

the Wuhan lab to the wet market in Wuhan. Kind of splitting the Baby. 

[BenJepthah]

https://www.fox13memphis.com/rss-snd/north-mississippi-church-destroyed-fire-explosion/HS5QXRCL45CVRPRMFGGZUSKCQE/?fbclid=IwAR3g4UG-uz-LNNvRICV64lxUVFhAi-BL8VgkwDHOMOkzvnYXXaMLc-yUZsw
 

     And then this has begun to happen. 

[booboo]

Just saw this article evidence of the virus jumping from animals to humans.

Quote:  DUTCH AUTHORITIES ANNOUNCED this week that they suspect a mink has transmitted the coronavirus to a worker at a fur farm in the Netherlands. If confirmed, this would be the first concrete evidence of a specific species passing the virus to a human.

 

link to the entire article.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2020/05/coronavirus-from-mink-to-human-cvd/

[Dustparticle]

6 hours ago, JennyM said:

This is going to be the new normal..   The 1918 pandemic legacy was  stretched  up to 1940.  

People will be anxious of their fellows , things , and public gatherings. 

It is going to be the new normal. Now I wonder how going to meet back together at the Halls? Will there be those who are old and not healthy are a low to go? That ought be interesting to see or not to see.

[Barbllm]

"A Swedish newspaper, the Dagens Nyether, has investigated the matter, noting the uncertainties of Patriarch Kirill (Gundjaev) and the conflict that has arisen with the orthodox virus "denialist" fundamentalists, who maintain "it is not possible to get infected inside churches."

 

Yeah, about that.

 

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Russia-tries-to-overcome-the-virus,-the-Orthodox-Church-mired-in-tragedy-50120.html

 

 

[CHecker]

Good grief, denial doesn't protect. 

 

Locally a fellow I know had a life saving liver transplant about 16 months ago. He literally was on death's door. He showed up at the Post Office, where I was working, without a mask or glove, no protection at all. He said his faith will keep him well, I guess we'll see right?

[BenJepthah]

1 hour ago, Barbllm said:

"A Swedish newspaper, the Dagens Nyether, has investigated the matter, noting the uncertainties of Patriarch Kirill (Gundjaev) and the conflict that has arisen with the orthodox virus "denialist" fundamentalists, who maintain "it is not possible to get infected inside churches."

 

Yeah, about that.

 

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Russia-tries-to-overcome-the-virus,-the-Orthodox-Church-mired-in-tragedy-50120.html

 

 

Isn’t it ironic . A little to ironic . 
    At a time when so many of our Brothers and Sisters are effectively under house arrest in Russia, and all of our Kingdom Halls seized, and our public ministry banned. Our people are more safe than the general population. They were more safe even before the outbreak began. Meanwhile, the ROC who have been instrumental in creating these circumstances for our loved ones , well, NOT SO MUCH.

[GodlyDevotion]

I was thinking about the effect pandemics and wars have had on humans. The book of revelation shows the angry devil and how he desperately wants to thwart Jehovah's plans.

 

He had been doing it since his banishment to earth: the 1914 start of WW1, the Spanish flu, the great depression, WW2, the 9/11 attack, the Corona virus pandemic etc. . .

 

There is, however, one thing that I have learned from pandemics and wars. It always strengthens the motive and unity of humans. When the world wars ended, the league/United nations was put in place. When the 9/11 attacked the United states, it changed airport security forever. Now the Covid-19, what does it change?

Like Br. Kenneth Cook says, "the virus had a beginning, and it will have an end." The question is the aftermath of the virus. . .

 

[SUNRAY]

12 hours ago, Barbllm said:

"A Swedish newspaper, the Dagens Nyether, has investigated the matter, noting the uncertainties of Patriarch Kirill (Gundjaev) and the conflict that has arisen with the orthodox virus "denialist" fundamentalists, who maintain "it is not possible to get infected inside churches."

 

Yeah, about that.

 

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Russia-tries-to-overcome-the-virus,-the-Orthodox-Church-mired-in-tragedy-50120.html

 

 

Thanks! One of my favorite posts in this thread!!

[SUNRAY]

My new hand sanitizer..fragrance free concentrated dish soap in a purse-size spray bottle!

[SUNRAY]

1 hour ago, SUNRAY said:

My new hand sanitizer..fragrance free concentrated dish soap in a purse-size spray bottle!

Soap kills the virus, Just a spray on one hand, add a spray of silver..rub hands thoroughly..til hands are clean..most  soap will dry on hands.

[BenJepthah]

On 5/18/2020 at 5:36 AM, M'Awan said:

https://bestlifeonline.com/coronavirus-attacks-body/  MAY 16

5 Strange New Ways Coronavirus Attacks Your Body

1. It can produce rashes on your skin.

A recent study published in the British Journal of Dermatology found that 6% of coronavirus patients suffered from livedo, a condition marked by "mottled, purplish discoloration of the skin." And a March study published in the Journal of the European Academy of Dermatology and Venereology found that 20 % of the coronavirus patients studied had some kind of rash, including one that resembled chicken pox.

 

2. It can increase cases of psychosis

 

7 Signs Your Skin Is Trying to Tell You You Have Coronavirus

 

IF YOU'VE HAD ITCHY RASHES OR STRANGE BUMPS LATELY, TAKE NOTE. SOME CORONAVIRUS SYMPTOMS ARE JUST SKIN DEEP.

"there are multiple skin reactions at this point of COVID-19 infection," Dawn Davis, MD, chair of the clinical dermatology division at the Mayo Clinic, told Yahoo! Lifestyle. She added that people should be aware of the coronavirus' effect on the skin, "even if they have no other symptoms consistent with COVID-19

Saw this rash in one of our foster children in February just before she became very sick with a high fever ( at the time we thought it was a bad flu // now we know different). 

[Shawnster]

19 minutes ago, BenJepthah said:

Saw this rash in one of our foster children in February just before she became very sick with a high fever ( at the time we thought it was a bad flu // now we know different). 

Have you had a chance to get her tested for the antibodies?