The Mysterious Coronavirus Spreading Worldwide

[New World Explorer]

On 7/17/2020 at 2:31 AM, trottigy said:

It is interesting that Jehovah mandated "lock-downs" or quarantines in Bible times to limit the spread of extremely infectious diseases. I wonder if he knew there would be “consequences".

That's very interesting, what occasion do you have in mind? I found this intriguing.... 

[Thesauron]

I overheard a conversation between an experienced sister and another sister in quarantine because of age. She told her something I felt was very thoughtful:

“If someone had told you earlier this year that you were going to be quarantined for several months, would you not have been worried and concerned if you were going to make it? And how it was going to work out? And yet, here we are, unable to meet face to face, but well taken care of.”

We appreciate how things used to be, but now we are looking forward to the next step leading up towards Armageddon. And we do not worry. We are quick to obey the instructions given, even if we don’t fully understand them at the time.

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600,000 reported deaths

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[hatcheckgirl]

No USA or Europe on that list?? 🤔

[Thesauron]

No USA or Europe on that list?? 

Poland and Belgium

[Shawnster]

59 minutes ago, hatcheckgirl said:

No USA or Europe on that list?? 🤔

The list can be sorted by each column

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5 hours ago, hatcheckgirl said:

No USA or Europe on that list?? 🤔

Sorry, I sorted by the daily number, not the totals. Here is the totals display. 

[luisenriquereyes]

18 hours ago, pnutts said:

Some people just can not follow the rules, but their pets can and do a better job at it.

 

 

 If my sisters dog can follow the rules, everyone can  😁

[BenJepthah]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/14/schools-coronavirus-infection-rate-low-german-study-finds.html
  Well that’s good news !! Back to school dad dance coming on! 

[AH173]

I think that Germany as a whole is handling the covid-19 in a more structured way than USA. 

 

Time will tell. Hope for the best. 

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NY Times article on Premature baby births:

The researchers found that during the lockdown, the rate of babies born before 28 weeks had dropped by a startling 90 percent.

Anecdotes from doctors at other hospitals around the world suggest the phenomenon may have been widespread, though not universal

During Coronavirus Lockdowns, Some Doctors Wondered: Where Are the Preemies? https://nyti.ms/32Bh3QS

It is definitely a mysterious plague.

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Edited July 20, 2020 by Maʹher-shalʹal-hash-baz
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[BenJepthah]

7 hours ago, Maʹher-shalʹal-hash-baz said:

NY Times article on Premature baby births:

The researchers found that during the lockdown, the rate of babies born before 28 weeks had dropped by a startling 90 percent.

Anecdotes from doctors at other hospitals around the world suggest the phenomenon may have been widespread, though not universal

During Coronavirus Lockdowns, Some Doctors Wondered: Where Are the Preemies? https://nyti.ms/32Bh3QS

It is definitely a mysterious plague.

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Interesting. 
     Hypothesis: The mother’s weren’t working and this the Babies and Mums were less stressed. A positive side affect.

 

On 7/18/2020 at 5:29 PM, AH173 said:

I think that Germany as a whole is handling the covid-19 in a more structured way than USA. 

 

Time will tell. Hope for the best. 

That’s an easy one. Germany most certainly is.  Why? Germany is but one country. The United States is 50 countries. Each with their own political leadership and system of government. Some of the States , in truth, are not states at all but “ Commonwealths. Some , like Kentucky, actually require potential office holders to swear off of Dueling or assisting in Dueling. 

[hatcheckgirl]

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/parishioners-of-sydney-cathedral-told-to-isolate-as-list-of-clusters-grow?cid=sbsnews:edm:newsam:relation:news:na:na

 

Melbourne, and now Sydney are struggling to contain resurgence in “clusters”, this one from a Catholic Church.

 

Our Numbers are not galloping like other countries, but it does show this virus is highly contagious and can quickly get out of hand.  Melbourne is now again in lockdown for 6 weeks to try to contain it. Lockdown does some good, as does restriction of travel, as it starves the virus of possible hosts, and so can halt transmission. But it can only work if the numbers are still small. And then, it only works if people are compliant.

 

And we know that people are not obedient to what the health authorities are suggesting we do. So this cycle will never end, until the end.

[BenJepthah]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-deadly-is-covid-19-researchers-are-getting-closer-to-an-answer-11595323801
       0.5-1.0% .  

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NY Times: The C.D.C. says the number of people infected ‘far exceeds the number of reported cases’ in parts of the U.S.

"About 40 percent of infected people do not develop symptoms, but they may still pass the virus on to others. The United States now tests roughly 700,000 people a day. The new results highlight the need for much more testing to detect infection levels and contain the viral spread in parts of the country... "

https://nyti.ms/2WGpNRW

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[hatcheckgirl]

A sad comment when people don’t do the right thing:

 

Fifty-three per cent of the 3,810 positive cases recorded between 7 and 21 July did not isolate themselves in the time between undertaking a COVID-19 test and receiving the result, he said. 

Of the same group, nine out of 10 did not self-isolate after feeling sick and before undergoing a test.

"Unless we have people who get tested staying at home and isolating until they get their results, then we will not see these numbers come down," he said. "They will continue to go up and up. And a six-week shutdown will not be for six weeks. It will run for much longer than that."  https://www.sbs.com.au/news/victoria-records-484-new-coronavirus-cases-the-largest-daily-spike-since-pandemic-began

 

This is the situation in Melbourne, where community transmission has exploded to 484 new cases today - that’s more than the maximum new cases of the whole of Australia combined back in March! 😱

[hatcheckgirl]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-07-22/coronavirus-ecmo-explainer/12472498

 

What is extracorporeal membrane oxygenation or ECMO? (Pronounced “ek-mo”)

 

Extracorporeal membrane oxygenation is when you take a patient's blood out of their body via a big pipe or cannula to the ECMO machine.  This machine removes the carbon dioxide from the blood, adds oxygen, and then returns the bright red oxygenated blood to the body via another big pipe.

 

Normally, the oxygen you breathe in diffuses across the tiny air sacs in your lungs called alveoli into your bloodstream, but when you're connected to an ECMO machine, the machine takes over most of this function for you.

 

ECMO is only used after a patient is put on a ventilator.  If the patient is still getting sicker and their oxygen level goes too low despite the best ventilation management, that's when taking them off the ventilator and putting them on an ECMO machine might be considered.

 

"The problem is [in patients with severe COVID-19] the blood flow past those air sacs is abnormal."

Coronavirus can cause inflammation of the cells lining the blood vessels, which can lead to the formation of blood clots and hyperviscosity, where the blood becomes like sludge and can't flow as easily. 

 

Putting a patient on ECMO can both take the strain off their damaged lungs, and because you have to artificially thin people's blood to put them on the machine, lead to less problems of abnormal clotting. - end of article quote.

 

Thought I’d share in case we ever encounter this technique if we or loved ones are sick with covid.  There are also risks to take into consideration.

 

 

Edited July 22, 2020 by hatcheckgirl

[BenJepthah]

https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/25085/

 

Is political grandstanding killing people during a pandemic?  Some studies suggest yes. 

[EccentricM]

2 minutes ago, BenJepthah said:

https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/25085/

 

Is political grandstanding killing people during a pandemic?  Some studies suggest yes. 

I'm reading here about hydroxychloroquine, but nothing about politics.

[BenJepthah]

1 minute ago, EccentricM said:

I'm reading here about hydroxychloroquine, but nothing about politics.

Keep reading. Hydroxychloroquine  was removed from use by the fda due to faulty studies promoted by the MSM. Yet more studies  have come out in several countries suggesting strongly that HCQ combined with Azithromycib and Zink are both safe and effective and can be taken as prophylaxis . That the harmful effects cited are quite rare. People who actually have worked with this medication in treatment of C-19 ( me included ) will tell you it does seem to help.  So why the rejection of its use in the MSM? Possibly just the effect of a competitive drug being promoted ( Rendemsivir ) . Or could it just be that some politician early in promoted the idea that HCQ showed promise ?  The article does not speculate . But why else spike the use of something that showed such promise and is used widely already and is much less expensive? 

[BenJepthah]

To the above I’d like to add just one point. If you live in a land in which remdensivir is not available due to cost or lack of manufacturing capacity. There is the wide availability of an effective treatment or even a preventative.  Don’t let what the FDA is currently saying in the US be your standard. The studies are indicating what the Doctors and Nurses are already seeing.  

[Bob]

People are more likely to catch Covid from members of their own household:

 

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A study published in the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on July 16 looked in detail at 5,706 “index patients” who had tested positive for the coronavirus and more than 59,000 people who came into contact with them. The findings showed just two out of 100 infected people had caught the virus from non-household contacts, while one in 10 had contracted the disease from their own families.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-southkorea-idUSKCN24M1NK

 

This is interesting. Perhaps this thing spreading was unavoidable given this new research. And it is also the main reason why I never really supported lockdowns as any sort of solution. When you don't know who is infected, then locking down the sick with the healthy would have this as an obvious consequence.

Edited July 22, 2020 by Bob

[Bob]

Six hundred millions doses of this potential Covid Vaccine at no cost to Americans? A little more positive news:

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/22/feds-partner-pfizer-supply-600-million-coronavirus/

[Shawnster]

3 hours ago, Bob said:

People are more likely to catch Covid from members of their own household:

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-southkorea-idUSKCN24M1NK

 

This is interesting. Perhaps this thing spreading was unavoidable given this new research. And it is also the main reason why I never really supported lockdowns as any sort of solution. When you don't know who is infected, then locking down the sick with the healthy would have this as an obvious consequence.

Those 2 out of 100 come home and infect their family.  Yes, that makes perfect sense and shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

How would not locking down be better, though?  

[AH173]

3 hours ago, Bob said:

People are more likely to catch Covid from members of their own household:

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-southkorea-idUSKCN24M1NK

 

This is interesting. Perhaps this thing spreading was unavoidable given this new research. And it is also the main reason why I never really supported lockdowns as any sort of solution. When you don't know who is infected, then locking down the sick with the healthy would have this as an obvious consequence.

 

6 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Those 2 out of 100 come home and infect their family.  Yes, that makes perfect sense and shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

How would not locking down be better, though?  

Oh well, I sense a repeat of comments coming. It's coming.........