UN Wants to Normalize Men Crying

[Friends just call me Ross]

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/united-nations-tweet-normalize-men-crying

 

The only crying I want to hear is,

"Peace & Security!"

"Peace & Security!"

"Peace & Security!"

 

 

 

 

[BLEmom]

In the scheme of things, it does seem ridiculous for them to be worrying about men crying with everything going on in the world.  And really do we need more emotionally overwrought people right now?

 

On the other hand, how are women generally viewed (especially in the workplace) if they cry?  Generally it is considered weakness, unprofessional and you can even be labeled a drama queen. Now there are a minority of women who may use tears as a weapon or to garner sympathy, but it isn’t the majority. What if crying was normalized in men?  Would it make them more sympathetic when a woman cries?  Would it allow women to be more respected despite being emotional?  I am sure this is their goal. Theoretically it could be possible but we know that in this system of things, it won’t happen. 

[Dages]

The UN is wasting time pffff

[BLEmom]

5 hours ago, Dages said:

The UN is wasting time pffff

I guess that means you aren’t a cryer. 😂

[Dages]

20 minutes ago, BLEmom said:

I guess that means you aren’t a cryer. 😂

Only out of joy

[Dustparticle]

I was at the UN in the late 80’s, and believe me, there was so much of hate there. No change in the 21st century. If they want normalize men, then come to my camp.

[On the huh]

Real men don't cry!

But that is the problem.  Men need to cry, and not be afraid of being mocked for crying.  Rather than crying, men bottle up their feelings, which can lead to anger, violence, or depression or worse.

[Dages]

Jesus, Jehovah's image, cried, so it's ok to cry.

[Beyond the Sky]

It would be stranger for a man not to cry when faced with tragedy. 

[EccentricM]

The reason men were told expression emotion was "bad" and unmanly is because societies through history wanted to breed a race of warriors, soldiers, killers. The Bible mentions how some men who were more faint of heart could be excluded from the duty of soldiering in Israel, they were never forced.

 

It's through world wars and so on where people were told to "man up" and "soldier on".

 

I do think that there is a "degree" of manilness that should envoke being "tough", but it's taken too far when they say crying is unnatural for men, we know Jesus cried and he was perfect. David who was a warrior and killer of many, often expressed his emotions in the Psalms. Bravery is not being fearless or stoic as stone, but rather combating and enduring fear or sadness.

 

The belief that man should keep emotions to themselves has lead to many suicides. At the same time we don't give "into" emotional despair or let it control us. It's about being balanced. And that's harder for some than it is for others.

 

I personally find it hard to cry, I'd have to force myself, but I feel emotions. The most "tearful" I get is having wet eyes, but I never have "streams" of tears or sniffling. And usually I get like that due to pity over something terrible I've witnessed, or the opposite, being joyful over something, but it takes a lot to get me to that state.

Edited February 6, 2021 by EccentricM

[Raven]

On 2/6/2021 at 11:55 AM, BLEmom said:

In the scheme of things, it does seem ridiculous for them to be worrying about men crying with everything going on in the world.  And really do we need more emotionally overwrought people right now?

 

On the other hand, how are women generally viewed (especially in the workplace) if they cry?  Generally it is considered weakness, unprofessional and you can even be labeled a drama queen. Now there are a minority of women who may use tears as a weapon or to garner sympathy, but it isn’t the majority. What if crying was normalized in men?  Would it make them more sympathetic when a woman cries?  Would it allow women to be more respected despite being emotional?  I am sure this is their goal. Theoretically it could be possible but we know that in this system of things, it won’t happen. 

To be fair, in the scheme of things, male suicides is a very big problem globally (as are female suicides), especially since the coronavirus, so I can understand why they are tackling this issue now...though the toxicity of this world's society is far beyond repair, and its influence is overwhelming and everywhere, so they really are wasting their time if they want to fix this problem. At any rate, humans have the tendency to focus on the symptoms and not the cause, so treatments end up being more of a temporary band-aid solution than actually solving the problem. Take the issue of homelessness, where governments try to "fix" the problem by building more homes. Sadly, having a roof over one's head doesn't erase all the trauma that these people have lived through.

 

You make a very good point about women crying, though this is to be expected as well, as both genders suffer horribly in Satan's world.

Edited February 9, 2021 by Bjern

[Katty]

Usually, when these organizations talk about "normalizing men crying", they don't mean to normalize men crying for occasions in which men have always cried such as: when a close family members dies or when someone just kicked you in the privates. Any situation that is tragic and/or incredibly painful has always been considered an appropriate time for a man to cry. They usually mean to normalize men crying at the level that women cry. I've seen those answers to those facebooks questionaires some of my female friends have answered  including "when was the last time you cried?" I'm honestly not comfortable living in a world where men cry because the person they were rooting won on American Idol or something as minor as that is considered normal. I rely on my man to be my source of emotional stability. The fact that he can detach emotion from a situation and look at  it analyitically, helps me tremendously. If I had a man as hysterical as I am, or rather was at the height of my emotional instability, there's no way I would have ever improved. I mean, I just watched an episode of Star Trek Voyager in which I was asking myself "Why am I crying over a holographic projection?" lol! Idk what I'd do if that was normal for men.

I feel like there's a war on masculinity--there's a war on femininity as well, but the world is starting to see masculinity as something more loathesome, but I believe Jehovah made men and women differently for a reason. Now, granted some men cry more often than other men, and for other men, they probably cry next to never. There's a lot of overlap in what is normal for men vs women, but it doesn't change the fact that on average, men and women have different tendencies, and there's nothing wrong with that; I find the world's constantly changing the word "normal" into something warped and unnatural incredibly tiresome.

Edited February 11, 2021 by Katty

[M.J.]

On 2/6/2021 at 4:42 PM, EccentricM said:

I personally find it hard to cry, I'd have to force myself, but I feel emotions. The most "tearful" I get is having wet eyes, but I never have "streams" of tears or sniffling.

You're just not a Cryer.

 

Some people simply don't express pain that way. It may come out through other behaviors such as sleeping, eating/not eating, addictions, extreme sports, etc. 

 

On a side point, men generally don't cry as easily as women, and when a man does cry, the more uncharacteristic it is for that individual, its so rare that it's unnerving for some people. How would we react if a GB member had a habit of crying on the Broadcast?

[Tortuga]

[EccentricM]

1 hour ago, M.J. said:

You're just not a Cryer.

 

Some people simply don't express pain that way. It may come out through other behaviors such as sleeping, eating/not eating, addictions, extreme sports, etc. 

Only time I recall being completely broke down in tears was through shock when I was 10 years old, when I got assaulted by a kid in school. Tried to strangle me to death when we were alone in an empty class room, but then he let go to punch in me the jaw, which violently tossed my head (I had a graze under my jaw for weeks afterward).

 

I had never even been touched in my life before that as I had no brothers, no experience of rough play. So it was quite a shock. I was upset, but only after the fact when I was trying to explain to the head teacher and my parents what happened (which was about 25-30 minutes later). It wasn't sadness, but I couldn't control this automatic reaction I was having, I couldn't speak, every time I tried to utter a word, I'd just be crying uncontrollably, yet I felt "collected" in myself internally and was at a loss of why I couldn't speak. I kept saying to them all when they were trying to comfort me; "I'm not upset, I don't know why I keep crying!"

Edited February 13, 2021 by EccentricM

[Hope]

On 2/6/2021 at 10:08 AM, Dages said:

Jesus, Jehovah's image, cried, so it's ok to cry.

I always find this a curious example to normalize crying. One of Jesus's best friends died. His other good friends were distraught.. and sort of blaming him. *Most* people would cry in such a situation, wouldn't they?

 

I resist crying for pretty much any reason, but I like to think the death of my best buddy would do it.  Now... crying at movies, kittens, babies, losing a job, bills due with no money?  Nah.  I always feel like, "what's the point?" 🤷🏽‍♀️😔

Edited February 13, 2021 by Hope

[Vinnie]

Of course on one side of the argument it's good for men (and women) to get in touch with their own feelings and emotions more but more importantly there is a time and a place for everything under the sun,  including crying. Getting choked up in prayer is acceptable when a loved one dies, where as Jehovah tells us regarding the wrongdoers and the wicked, "Do not let your eye feel sorry, and do not feel any compassion."   

 

We already have Jehovah's thoughts on the matter .  We are encouraged to show fellow feeling. We rejoice with those who rejoice and we weep with those who weep.  The world if far behind us in this matter.  Never do we want to be cold hearted or spurn those who show their emotions more readily.  Satan is the cold hearted one we need to avoid imitating in every way. 

 

 

[Raven]

10 hours ago, Vinnie said:

The world if far behind us in this matter.  Never do we want to be cold hearted or spurn those who show their emotions more readily.  Satan is the cold hearted one we need to avoid imitating in every way. 

Indeed, the world typically shames those who are naturally more emotional (men or woman, but perhaps especially men). The simple truth is Jehovah created us all, and gave us diversity in character. Clearly Jehovah wanted some men and women to be emotional, or He wouldn't have done so.

 

As for crying, Jehovah designed that too, so really it's a gift from God. Not to say that it can't be misused, as it is ridiculous what some people will cry over (e.g. they see a famous person, their sports team loses, a couple break up in a TV show they watch, they fail in a video game, they didn't get their way... "Somebody call the waaambulance.."), but at the same time, somebody doesn't have to die for it to be ok for you to cry.