Russia invades Ukraine

[Dustparticle]

  On 3/15/2022 at 10:40 AM, ➕👇 ꓤꓱꓷꓠꓵ🎵Tone said:

Dan 11:44 “But reports out of the east and out of the north will disturb him..."

Has there been recent commentary on "the east"?
Is it possible the East is China? Did Russia ask China for help? (Fake news?)
If China pulls back from supporting Russia, will Russia run out of puff?

Dan 11:45 "... and he will come all the way to his end, and there will be no helper for him."

Pure speculation. Personally, I would like this to mean Russia crumbles in a repeat fashion of the USSR.
She is still KotN, but loses much ground and world dominance that she so desperately seeks.
Add the EU court going against her. Add the new World Court action on the Russian alleged downing of a passenger flight.
Added to China stepping back (if true)...
It makes for an interesting scenario.
One can only hope.

Old (Downunder) Tone


 

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The reports out of theist and north likely refers to Judgement messages. 

[cme]

  On 3/15/2022 at 8:09 PM, Susan Cook said:

Brother Sanderson’s reminder to us and particularly elders at the end of the annual meeting made me feel like the GT could very well break out in the coming months

 

* Keep On The Watch! *

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It could very well be.  As we see what is going on the world scene I feel that all the prophecies that we are waiting for are smashed in together.   So, its like a knotted ball of yarn and you can't find the beginning?  That's what it feels like to me.    All the prophecies are here together, packed in and you can't find the piece of the puzzle you are looking for to start looking at the bigger picture.  It could be already with us.  Again, we wait and see.

 

 

[Amygdala]

This interview done with Putin in June 2021 was very telling. Putin explains why he attacks certain civil groups or entities domestically. A real insight into why he persecutes our brothers there in Russia!! He explains at around the 36:50 sec. mark.

 

 

[Sofia]

Interesting... In Portugal in 1917 3 children claimed to have a vision of virgin Mary.

  hidden for a long period of time, the secret was revealed later. Based upon this the Pope will act on March 25. Take a look how the Devil uses false religion:

 

https://denvercatholic.org/pope-francis-to-consecrate-russia-and-ukraine-to-immaculate-heart-of-mary/

[Dages]

  On 3/15/2022 at 9:06 PM, Sofia said:

Interesting... In Portugal in 1917 3 children claimed to have a vision of virgin Mary.

  hidden for a long period of time, the secret was revealed later. Based upon this the Pope will act on March 25. Take a look how the Devil uses false religion:

 

https://denvercatholic.org/pope-francis-to-consecrate-russia-and-ukraine-to-immaculate-heart-of-mary/

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This is retarded... Can't wait for BtG to be destroyed

[Dhanyel]

I am happy when the association wisely puts the issues in the spotlight! It's always good to keep an eye out!

Will Diplomacy Bring World Peace?

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g20040108/will-diplomacy-bring-world-peace/

[New World Explorer]

  On 3/15/2022 at 9:06 PM, Sofia said:

Interesting... In Portugal in 1917 3 children claimed to have a vision of virgin Mary.

  hidden for a long period of time, the secret was revealed later. Based upon this the Pope will act on March 25. Take a look how the Devil uses false religion:

 

https://denvercatholic.org/pope-francis-to-consecrate-russia-and-ukraine-to-immaculate-heart-of-mary/

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It’s amazing how far they deviated from a simple teaching about the Kingdom in the Bible. 
False religion is getting darker and darker…

[Doug]

  On 3/15/2022 at 12:37 PM, Dages said:

Yep, demons aren't in heaven, they have no spiritual truth nor understanding.

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Agreed.  But they have the powers of observation.  I think it's plausible that Satan has an awareness of how many there are of "this generation" still alive, their age and their health. 

 He would also know that the scripture says "this generation will by no means pass away until all things happen" doesn't mean it will go down to the last dozen individuals.

Based on how many there are, their age and health, he could reach a hypothesis with a probability of being right.

 

We're not talking about Satan knowing when the GT will start.  We're talking about his ability to hypothesize, based on observation (not spiritual insight) whether this years Memorial might be the last one.  And, if it is, that still leaves a full year for the GT to start, before the next Memorial would have  come around.

 

This war, so close to the end, doesn't feel like just another war.  NATO, UN, China, KOtN, KOtS.  It feels like a demon- inspired distraction. Even if Satan guesses right, and this years Memorial is the last, it doesn't change anything. The world will be completely distracted by P&S.  Meanwhile, they can be completely distracted by the events unfolding daily.  The devil will use any tool that works.

 

[Shawnster]

  On 3/15/2022 at 9:56 PM, Doug said:

Agreed.  But they have the powers of observation.  I think it's plausible that Satan has an awareness of how many there are of "this generation" still alive, their age and their health. 

 He would also know that the scripture says "this generation will by no means pass away until all things happen" doesn't mean it will go down to the last dozen individuals.

Based on how many there are, their age and health, he could reach a hypothesis with a probability of being right.

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Good point. 

 

 

  On 3/15/2022 at 9:22 PM, New World Explorer said:

It’s amazing how far they deviated from a simple teaching about the Kingdom in the Bible. 
False religion is getting darker and darker…

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The "three secrets" it is claimed the children saw https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/35980/everything-you-need-to-know-about-fatima-part-2

 

1.  The first secret was the vision of hell that Mary had allowed the children to see.

 

2. The second secret was a statement that World War I would end, and a prediction of another war that would start during the reign of Pius XI, if people continued to offend God and if Russia were not consecrated to her Immaculate Heart.

 

3.  The secret was not revealed until the year 2000 – 40 years after Sr. Lucia thought it might be released – under the direction of the Holy See.  

 

Cardinal Angelo Sodano, then the Vatican Secretary of State, announced that on May 13, 2000, 83 years after the first apparition, the Third Secret would finally be published. He said the secret referred to the 20th century persecution of Christians and the failed assassination attempt on St. John Paul II on May 13, 1981, the 64th anniversary of the first apparition.

[Sofia]

  On 3/15/2022 at 11:23 PM, Shawnster said:

Good point. 

 

 

The "three secrets" it is claimed the children saw https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/35980/everything-you-need-to-know-about-fatima-part-2

 

1.  The first secret was the vision of hell that Mary had allowed the children to see.

 

2. The second secret was a statement that World War I would end, and a prediction of another war that would start during the reign of Pius XI, if people continued to offend God and if Russia were not consecrated to her Immaculate Heart.

 

3.  The secret was not revealed until the year 2000 – 40 years after Sr. Lucia thought it might be released – under the direction of the Holy See.  

 

Cardinal Angelo Sodano, then the Vatican Secretary of State, announced that on May 13, 2000, 83 years after the first apparition, the Third Secret would finally be published. He said the secret referred to the 20th century persecution of Christians and the failed assassination attempt on St. John Paul II on May 13, 1981, the 64th anniversary of the first apparition.

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...and 3rd part seems to include the end of papacy and the other religions. Pope Francis has mentioned him self on the third part several times, indicating that he foresees him self in the very end of papacy...

Even catholics find difficult to interpretate Satan´s message... much less interpreting the Bible. Catholics have changed the interpretation several times.

Satan knows well the Bible and God´d purpose. 

Distorting the truth, proclaiming this its a true challenge to Jehovah, who doesnt allow demons to preach.

This is demon propaganda. Despicable! 

Apostle Paul expelled a demon from a macedonian girl who proclaimed the truth about Paul. Acts16:16-18

 

 

Edited March 15, 2022 by Sofia

[Susan Cook]

  On 3/15/2022 at 9:56 PM, Doug said:

Agreed.  But they have the powers of observation.  I think it's plausible that Satan has an awareness of how many there are of "this generation" still alive, their age and their health. 

 He would also know that the scripture says "this generation will by no means pass away until all things happen" doesn't mean it will go down to the last dozen individuals.

Based on how many there are, their age and health, he could reach a hypothesis with a probability of being right.

 

We're not talking about Satan knowing when the GT will start.  We're talking about his ability to hypothesize, based on observation (not spiritual insight) whether this years Memorial might be the last one.  And, if it is, that still leaves a full year for the GT to start, before the next Memorial would have  come around.

 

This war, so close to the end, doesn't feel like just another war.  NATO, UN, China, KOtN, KOtS.  It feels like a demon- inspired distraction. Even if Satan guesses right, and this years Memorial is the last, it doesn't change anything. The world will be completely distracted by P&S.  Meanwhile, they can be completely distracted by the events unfolding daily.  The devil will use any tool that works.

 

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Satan and the demons know 1) who Jehovah & Jesus are, and 2) who Jehovah’s servants are.. and 3) that their time is short, and  4) they must see the preaching work happening globally and know this is Bible prophecy being fulfilled.

 

They are powerful spirit creatures with super human intelligence and 1000’s of years of experience observing human behavior… hence the ‘birdcatcher’ moniker.

They may know way more than we give them credit for,, it’s just that Jehovah offers us a degree of protection… thankfully!

Edited March 16, 2022 by Susan Cook

[Susan Cook]

  On 3/15/2022 at 9:03 PM, cme said:

It could very well be.  As we see what is going on the world scene I feel that all the prophecies that we are waiting for are smashed in together.   So, its like a knotted ball of yarn and you can't find the beginning?  That's what it feels like to me.    All the prophecies are here together, packed in and you can't find the piece of the puzzle you are looking for to start looking at the bigger picture.  It could be already with us.  Again, we wait and see.

 

 

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No missing puzzle pieces over here…

the GT absolutely has not started, however the world situation is definitely telling us it is very near at hand.

 

 

Edited March 16, 2022 by Susan Cook

[Hugh O'D]

  On 3/15/2022 at 8:21 PM, Sofia said:

Meanwhile PORTUGAL is sending Fatima´s lady Statue #13 from Fatima´s sanctuary to Ukraine at the Vatican´s expenses... 

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But, but, if it was injured in Fighting it could be paralysed for life. 😳

[Hugh O'D]

  On 3/15/2022 at 9:56 PM, Doug said:

I think it's plausible that Satan has an awareness of how many there are of "this generation" still alive, their age and their health. 

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Satan, like many of us, has seen the "generation" being redefined several times over the years, he doesn't have any special insight and doesn't know is this definitely the right one. Nor does he know will Jehovah pull a Moses and keep them all alive and healthy till their 120 (unlikely but it's his call not mine). 

 

Since 1914 he's known he had a "short period of time" but he never knew how long it would be or when his system would be destroyed. He has spent the last days distracting the people, opposing true worship and the preaching work and committing as many atrocities as he can fit in. Whether this system lasts 10 weeks, months, years or more he'll continue doing this but never knowing when Jehovah is about to strike.

 

He is definitely more clever than me but only because Jehovah blessed all his Angelic children when creating them but he has no special insight into how or when Jehovah is going to wind up this system. Again its Jehovah who puts it into the nation's hearts to attack BTG, if they were going to do it themselves anyway Jehovah wouldn't have to put it into their hearts. 

[Cushi]

  On 3/16/2022 at 1:37 AM, Hugh O'D said:

Satan, like many of us, has seen the "generation" being redefined several times over the years, he doesn't have any special insight and doesn't know is this definitely the right one. Nor does he know will Jehovah pull a Moses and keep them all alive and healthy till their 120 (unlikely but it's his call not mine). 

 

Since 1914 he's known he had a "short period of time" but he never knew how long it would be or when his system would be destroyed. He has spent the last days distracting the people, opposing true worship and the preaching work and committing as many atrocities as he can fit in. Whether this system lasts 10 weeks, months, years or more he'll continue doing this but never knowing when Jehovah is about to strike.

 

He is definitely more clever than me but only because Jehovah blessed all his Angelic children when creating them but he has no special insight into how or when Jehovah is going to wind up this system. Again its Jehovah who puts it into the nation's hearts to attack BTG, if they were going to do it themselves anyway Jehovah wouldn't have to put it into their hearts. 

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What’s also interesting is we don’t know how long a day is to the demons. It could be a thousand years just like Jehovah, since they were originally created sons of God. That brings a whole new meaning to satan’s time being “short.” To satan it may seem like he’s only had 6 days to rule this world and a fraction of a day since the last days began…

[Hotteok]

  On 3/16/2022 at 3:31 AM, *Jack* said:

What’s also interesting is we don’t know how long a day is to the demons. It could be a thousand years just like Jehovah, since they were originally created sons of God. That brings a whole new meaning to satan’s time being “short.” To satan it may seem like he’s only had 6 days to rule this world and a fraction of a day since the last days began…

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Minus the time they use to sleep and rest.. 
 

Seriously though, I think their time isn’t that much different from ours. They are not God. Maybe a day might feel longer for them because their minds work faster, can process more info than we do. 
 

 

[Hotteok]

Russia leaves council of Europe.

 

Russia formally departs Council of Europe | News | DW | 15.03.2022

[hatcheckgirl]

  On 3/16/2022 at 9:08 AM, VisualizeUrParadise said:

Russia leaves council of Europe.

 

Russia formally departs Council of Europe | News | DW | 15.03.2022

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So what does that mean?

 

”The decision draws the curtain on Russia’s quarter-century membership of the Council of Europe (CoE) and also opens the way for Moscow to reimpose the death penalty if the authorities decide.

 

The so-called “Ruxit” from the council means Russia will no longer be a signatory to the European Convention on Human Rights, and its citizens will no longer be able to file applications to the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR)…

 

The ministry said its exit would “not affect the rights and freedoms of Russian citizens” and “the implementation of already adopted resolutions of the European Court of Human Rights will continue, if they do not contradict Russia’s Constitution”.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/16/russia-to-quit-council-of-europe-body-prepares-to-suspend-moscow
 

[BLEmom]

  On 3/16/2022 at 12:50 PM, hatcheckgirl said:

So what does that mean?

 

”The decision draws the curtain on Russia’s quarter-century membership of the Council of Europe (CoE) and also opens the way for Moscow to reimpose the death penalty if the authorities decide.

 

The so-called “Ruxit” from the council means Russia will no longer be a signatory to the European Convention on Human Rights, and its citizens will no longer be able to file applications to the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR)…

 

The ministry said its exit would “not affect the rights and freedoms of Russian citizens” and “the implementation of already adopted resolutions of the European Court of Human Rights will continue, if they do not contradict Russia’s Constitution”.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/16/russia-to-quit-council-of-europe-body-prepares-to-suspend-moscow
 

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Not that they listened to the court anyway but our poor brothers!!!

[Dhanyel]

International Court of Justice linked to the UN determined the end of military operations in Ukraine.

[Michał]

  On 3/16/2022 at 4:38 PM, Jonadab said:

International Court of Justice linked to the UN determined the end of military operations in Ukraine.

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I read an opinion peace citing a Polish law scholar and judge (Ireneusz Kamiński) who says that this verdict sets a legal precedence to suspend Russian veto in UN Security Council voting on Ukraine and consequently may suspend Russia as a member of the UN.

 

We shall see how it plays out.

 

Polish article: https://wiadomosci.onet.pl/tylko-w-onecie/trybunal-w-hadze-orzekl-nielegalny-atak-rosji-skutki-moga-isc-naprawde-daleko/rj394bb

[Sofia]

Interesting title...   The UN: words, but no teeth

 

https://www.ibanet.org/The-UN-words-but-no-teeth

 

 

"...this malevolent misuse of the veto power diminishes the standing and respect of the UN as the only really effective body to stop threats to international peace and security"

Richard Goldstone
Honorary President of IBA Human Rights Council

 

Reforming the structure the Security Council has long been considered a huge undertaking, but this current conflict provides the most powerful argument for action since the end of the Second World War. While pessimists may see the UN’s current impotence in the face of Russian aggression as its death knell, optimists will be hoping for change.

[Sofia]

Meanwhile : The United States, Britain, France, Albania, Norway and Ireland have requested an emergency UN Security Council meeting Thursday because of the deteriorating humanitarian situation in Ukraine, diplomatic sources said. The request came after US President Joe Biden on Wednesday called Russian President Vladimir Putin “a war criminal”, in comments the Kremlin called “unacceptable and unforgivable”.

 

Source: https://www.barrons.com/news/western-un-security-council-members-demand-emergency-ukraine-meeting-thursday-diplomats-01647469331

Edited March 17, 2022 by Sofia

[GeordieGirl]

This war has really brought to the fore the incompetence and impotence of the UN.  

 

When it sees how derisively the world is looking down on it, maybe that is when it will ' develop some teeth'.

Edited March 17, 2022 by GeordieGirl

[Sofia]

USCIRF Warns of Potential for Significant Religious Oppression in Ukraine:

https://www.uscirf.gov/news-room/releases-statements/uscirf-warns-potential-significant-religious-oppression-ukraine

 

Russian shelling has already damaged numerous religious buildings, including a revered 16 century Orthodox monastery where close to 1,000 civilians were sheltering, and a mosque in Mariupol where 80 civilians were sheltering. Although some Russian Orthodox clergy oppose the war, including nearly 300 who signed an open letter denouncing it, Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill has publicly blessed it and provided supposed religious justification.