Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[JennyM]

10 minutes ago, LeolaRootStew said:

 

It wasn't total annihilation the first 2 times, though.

Few nuclear bombs back then. Now, its 11,000+ and  hundreds of them were already deployed. 

With absolute power, there's absolute corruption. 

 

[Friends just call me Ross]

5 minutes ago, JennyM said:

Few nuclear bombs back then. Now, its 11,000+ and  hundreds of them were already deployed. 

With absolute power, there's absolute corruption. 

 

 

Speaking of Nuclear Holocausts...

 

I just finished watching the 1983 movie "The Day After" 

 

 

I just watched the movie.  I skipped the after movie discussion.

 

I am so grateful for the Kingdom Hope. 💜

[Landon1285]

36 minutes ago, Friends just call me Ross said:

 

Speaking of Nuclear Holocausts...

 

I just finished watching the 1983 movie "The Day After" 

 

 

I just watched the movie.  I skipped the after movie discussion.

 

I am so grateful for the Kingdom Hope. 💜

This movie (even the title) always gave me goosebumps. 

[Dustparticle]

Like the past, some nukes might go off, but Jehovah will not let fools to destroy the world.

[CHecker]

Also, the nukes we have today are not like the ones dropped in WW11. The ones we have won't kill with fallout, their issue is percussion, which is a big killer NTL. 

I'll try to find the video of the Physicist who explained it.

Edited March 18 by bagwell1987

[Sofia]

17 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

Like the past, some nukes might go off, but Jehovah will not let fools to destroy the world.

Lets see... The only 2 nucs (Hiroxima + Nagasaki) were mentioned in the Bible ( Daniel and revelation)

There´s no mention of another Nuc or power or fire from heavens afterwards.

Because of this, I trust there wont be any Nuc release ever again.

There are few verses left to be fullfilled untill GT.

Daniel chapter 11 is in the very end. Chapter 12 starts with GT. 

I rather hope in Jehovah and wait calmly for his judgement day. 

 

[Dages]

1 minute ago, Sofia said:

The only 2 nucs (Hiroxima + Nagasaki) were mentioned in the Bible ( Daniel and revelation)

fire from heaven ? 

[jps]

2 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

 

It wasn't total annihilation the first 2 times, though.

bc nukes were scarse then..

[Ezequiel]

I have often heard the phrase: “Jehovah will not allow a third world war”, but one must ask, is this statement really biblical? Jehovah allowed two international conflict wars in the past, where millions died and nuclear weapons were used.

We do not know if we will reach a third war, but let’s think about it a bit, today the world is divided into two large factions, east and west, and the kings who lead both groups are great political powers that are directly involved in almost all the major conflicts today, we are one step away (or maybe we are already in the third world war), nuclear weapons do not necessarily have to be used, nowadays it seems that cyber attacks, trade wars and non-nuclear weapons of mass destruction are being chosen.

What is clear is that Jehovah will not allow the world to reach its total destruction.

[Dages]

Just now, Ezequiel said:

I have often heard the phrase: “Jehovah will not allow a third world war”, but one must ask, is this statement really biblical? Jehovah allowed two international conflict wars in the past, where millions died and nuclear weapons were used.

We do not know if we will reach a third war, but let’s think about it a bit, today the world is divided into two large factions, east and west, and the kings who lead both groups are great political powers that are directly involved in almost all the major conflicts today, we are one step away (or maybe we are already in the third world war), nuclear weapons do not necessarily have to be used, nowadays it seems that cyber attacks, trade wars and non-nuclear weapons of mass destruction are being chosen.

What is clear is that Jehovah will not allow the world to reach its total destruction.

The correct phrase should be "Jehovah will not allow us to self destruct".
But as we may think that a WW3 would be nuclear, it would bring mutual assured destruction (MAD).
That's why many can doubt that a real WW3 will happen.

[Ezequiel]

11 minutes ago, Dages said:

fire from heaven ? 

It seems that Sofia is referring to the explanation given in the Watchtower of May 2022.

⁹ Revelation chapter 13 goes on to tell us that this seventh head, the Anglo-American World Power, also acts as a wild beast with “two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking like a dragon.” This beast “performs great signs, even making fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.” (Rev. 13:11-15) Revelation chapters 16 and 19 describe this wild beast as “the false prophet.” (Rev. 16:13; 19:20) Daniel mentions something similar, namely, that the Anglo-American World Power would “bring terrible destruction.” (Dan. 8:19, 23, 24, ftn.) That is exactly what happened during World War II. The two atomic bombs that played a decisive role in ending that war in the Pacific were the results of a joint effort by British and American scientists. The Anglo-American World Power, in effect, made “fire come down out of heaven to the earth.”

[Dages]

1 minute ago, Ezequiel said:

It seems that Sofia is referring to the explanation given in the Watchtower of May 2022.

⁹ Revelation chapter 13 goes on to tell us that this seventh head, the Anglo-American World Power, also acts as a wild beast with “two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking like a dragon.” This beast “performs great signs, even making fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.” (Rev. 13:11-15) Revelation chapters 16 and 19 describe this wild beast as “the false prophet.” (Rev. 16:13; 19:20) Daniel mentions something similar, namely, that the Anglo-American World Power would “bring terrible destruction.” (Dan. 8:19, 23, 24, ftn.) That is exactly what happened during World War II. The two atomic bombs that played a decisive role in ending that war in the Pacific were the results of a joint effort by British and American scientists. The Anglo-American World Power, in effect, made “fire come down out of heaven to the earth.”

Yes, that's what I was refering to too.

[McKay]

11 minutes ago, Ezequiel said:

It seems that Sofia is referring to the explanation given in the Watchtower of May 2022.

⁹ Revelation chapter 13 goes on to tell us that this seventh head, the Anglo-American World Power, also acts as a wild beast with “two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking like a dragon.” This beast “performs great signs, even making fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.” (Rev. 13:11-15) Revelation chapters 16 and 19 describe this wild beast as “the false prophet.” (Rev. 16:13; 19:20) Daniel mentions something similar, namely, that the Anglo-American World Power would “bring terrible destruction.” (Dan. 8:19, 23, 24, ftn.) That is exactly what happened during World War II. The two atomic bombs that played a decisive role in ending that war in the Pacific were the results of a joint effort by British and American scientists. The Anglo-American World Power, in effect, made “fire come down out of heaven to the earth.”

 

Right. But this doesn't say that this "fire come down out of heaven" was limited to the two nuclear bombs. It was just using the only two known examples at the time. I'm sure if another nuke goes off somewhere, something the Anglo-American World Power does or is involved with will have something to do with it. Then it will still fulfill the words of Revelation 13. These verses do not preclude another nuke from being detonated.

[Sofia]

4 hours ago, Dages said:

fire from heaven ? 

Yep

*** w22 May p. 10 par. 9 Revelation—What It Means for God’s Enemies ***
9 Revelation chapter 13 goes on to tell us that this seventh head, the Anglo-American World Power, also acts as a wild beast with “two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking like a dragon.” This beast “performs great signs, even making fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.” (Rev. 13:11-15) Revelation chapters 16 and 19 describe this wild beast as “the false prophet.” (Rev. 16:13; 19:20) Daniel mentions something similar, namely, that the Anglo-American World Power would “bring terrible destruction.” (Dan. 8:19, 23, 24, ftn.) That is exactly what happened during World War II. The two atomic bombs that played a decisive role in ending that war in the Pacific were the results of a joint effort by British and American scientists. The Anglo-American World Power, in effect, made “fire come down out of heaven to the earth.”
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2022401&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=16

[vern]

22 minutes ago, Sofia said:

it began speaking like a dragon

 

gives me the thought that the first part of this beast would be lamb like but in time later it would change and start speaking as a dragon.........  sure seems like were in that transition point.

[Sofia]

1 hour ago, vern said:

 

gives me the thought that the first part of this beast would be lamb like but in time later it would change and start speaking as a dragon.........  sure seems like were in that transition point.

Anglo american power seems harmless, democratic, soft, easy, but all it says and does reflects Satan the Devil, the Dragon. 

[New World Explorer]

15 minutes ago, Sofia said:

Anglo american power seems harmless, democratic, soft, easy, but all it says and does reflects Satan the Devil, the Dragon. 

Depends on Presidents, some of them are less “democratic” without mentioning names 😂

[truce]

30 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

Depends on Presidents, some of them are less “democratic” without mentioning names 😂

And the way they speak trumps all manner of reason. 

[Ahuvah]

Trumps all manner of reason!!! *giggles to herself. Nicely said. 

(VERY unfortunate name that) 

Sorry ... back to subject ... not trying to derail. 

[CHecker]

An old pestilence roaring to life. May be because of the migration of masses of humanity.

In 1980 over 2 million died. We have a vaccine now but we have so many migrants, will it be contained.

https://nypost.com/2024/03/18/lifestyle/cdc-tightens-travel-guidance-amid-measles-outbreaks/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly&utm_content=International News,Health Audience,Lifestyle&utm_campaign=4396459

[MChill14]

Nuclear Disarmament Is the First Step for Peace, Says UN Chief | Security Council | United Nations
 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtfs5AVT1o

[Richie]

https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/2024-03-18/ty-article/.premium/eu-unanimously-agrees-to-impose-sanctions-against-violent-israeli-west-bank-settlers/0000018e-52c2-dc23-a3bf-daf760d20000

 

The decision marked the first time that the EU's 27 member countries had agreed to sanction violent Israeli settlers, following in the footsteps of the United States and Britain.

[MChill14]

Taipei slams Putin for claiming Taiwan is part of China
 

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/5117179

[vern]

all i know; is trump got gas prices down.

[Ahuvah]

Not here he didn't.  😄 🤣 😂 😆