The Mysterious Coronavirus Spreading Worldwide

[Todd komaniak]

Well at the post office in the south western region in Florida has mandated that we wear masks the one that they gave us came with a note inside it saying that this mask does not stop the transmission of covid-19 or any other diseases similar so wearing it doesn't stop it . So at this point is it just to make other people feel better

[Bob]

40 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Sure it does, to a point.  Lawful countries are better places to live than lawless countries.  Just look at Somalia or any other failed state for proof. 

 

Like I said, to a point.  A too restrict regime pushes citizens to revolution. 

 

Just like a family.  Households with too lax of rules tend to have horrible children.  Households with too restrictive parents have horrible children.  Healthy children result from balanced parenting. 

Right. But I didn't push a law v lawless viewpoint at all. I was saying there are plenty of Covid orders on the books already. That's all. 

 

Edited July 14, 2020 by Bob

[Bob]

14 minutes ago, Todd komaniak said:

Well at the post office in the south western region in Florida has mandated that we wear masks the one that they gave us came with a note inside it saying that this mask does not stop the transmission of covid-19 or any other diseases similar so wearing it doesn't stop it . So at this point is it just to make other people feel better

Well, a bandana or your regular scarf or old T-shirt is ineffective. A medical mask can provide up to 65 percent protection. So it doesn't "stop" it, no -- it slows it. That's the idea after all, to slow it.  

Edited July 14, 2020 by Bob

[Tortuga]

23 minutes ago, Todd komaniak said:

Well at the post office in the south western region in Florida has mandated that we wear masks the one that they gave us came with a note inside it saying that this mask does not stop the transmission of covid-19 or any other diseases similar so wearing it doesn't stop it . So at this point is it just to make other people feel better

It depends on the perspective of the instructions. The mask does not stop the transmission of any disease that the wearer may come in contact with. The theory is that the mask keeps the wearer from transmitting a disease to others. So hopefully the mask is doing more than make people feel better, it is also protecting them. 

[Tortuga]

I think it would be great if Covid19 caused really really bad breath. It would be easier to identify who should be wearing a mask and perhaps more people would want to wear a mask.

[Bob]

20 minutes ago, Mephibosheth said:

I think it would be great if Covid19 caused really really bad breath. It would be easier to identify who should be wearing a mask and perhaps more people would want to wear a mask.

Have you ever breathed into your hand with bad breath?!? 
 

Imagine having a mask on!! 
 

lol 

[Tortuga]

6 minutes ago, Bob said:

Have you ever breathed into your hand with bad breath?!? 
 

Imagine having a mask on!! 
 

lol 

Have ever been around someone that had really bad breath and you offered them a breath mint or gum for your own protection?😂 A mask is like a breath mint with straps..🤣

[Shawnster]

51 minutes ago, Bob said:

Right. But I didn't push a law v lawless viewpoint at all. I was saying there are plenty of Covid orders on the books already. That's all. 

 

No, but you are pushing the opinion that the same amount of people would still wear masks regardless whether laws were in place or not.  I was arguing that point by showing that has never been the case with anything else in human history. 

[Hope]

1 minute ago, Mephibosheth said:

Have ever been around someone that had really bad breath and you offered them a breath mint or gum for your own protection?😂 A mask is like a breath mint with straps..🤣

I love that!  😃  

 

The point that keeps being overlooked, it seems, is that wearing a mask is not about ourselves so much. It's about being thoughtful, considerate, loving of others. Seeing the other person as superior and all that?

 

We're supposed to take the lead in that in word, deed and attitude. 

[Hope]

15 minutes ago, Bob said:

Have you ever breathed into your hand with bad breath?!? 
 

Imagine having a mask on!! 
 

lol 

That observation was made by Jon Stewart during an interview. However, his response to that realization was to go apologize to everyone in his family... he was sorry he'd inflicted his breath on everyone. 😊

 

It made him more empathetic. He didn't ignore what he was responsible for and what he could do to lessen the effect. 

[Tortuga]

2 minutes ago, Hope said:

It's about being thoughtful, considerate, loving of others

Social etiquette says you should never refuse a breath mint if someone offers you one. It would be nice if we adopt that same attitude towards masks.

[Bob]

8 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

No, but you are pushing the opinion that the same amount of people would still wear masks regardless whether laws were in place or not.  I was arguing that point by showing that has never been the case with anything else in human history. 

I actually do agree that people will wear them, because we surely both know that complying with orders requires a deep level of doing so voluntarily, particularly where I live in which several Sheriff departments have said they are not ticketing people. So for all intents and purposes, the order is unenforceable and has no teeth. The $500 fines were designed to give it teeth. Those will not be enforced in the county where I live as well. Police said anyone with a mask complain should call the Govs office. 

 

So still, the onus will be put on us to do so voluntarily. You cannot force people to comply unless you assign a cop to each person each time they leave the house. 

Edited July 14, 2020 by Bob

[pnutts]

I have been wearing a mask out in public since early March for 2 reasons. 1st it protects others from me and 2nd because of heart issues/medications and allergies it protects me from idiots who would take verbal or violent exceptions to me sneezing or coughing.

[Life4u]

33 minutes ago, Mephibosheth said:

Social etiquette says you should never refuse a breath mint if someone offers you one. It would be nice if we adopt that same attitude towards masks.

Whoa! I skip a few weeks on this site and come back to a man instead of the turtle? Wow!  What a transformation!!! I like it.

[Old]

9 minutes ago, Life4u said:

Whoa! I skip a few weeks on this site and come back to a man instead of the turtle? Wow!  What a transformation!!! I like it.

Notice his funny gait, I think someone dropped him as a child.

[BenJepthah]

9 minutes ago, Old said:

Notice his funny gait, I think someone dropped him as a child.

I think he’s actually a hermit crab. He keeps changing his shell. 🐚 

[pnutts]

OH for the old Tortuga. 👀😱

[Tortuga]

3 hours ago, BenJepthah said:

I think he’s actually a hermit crab. He keeps changing his shell. 🐚 

It was time to get the shell out of here...😂

[M.J.]

7 hours ago, BenJepthah said:

All these things come down to personal responsibility. Bob I wouldn’t enforce it either. That will be the job of law enforcement. If they cannot or will not enforce it because they are being threatened with defunding or are already overburdened I can’t blame them either. What a headache .  That said.   What a lesson for people. Coddled , told that everything they could want or need will be provided for them. Security, income , housing, even food . And that each and every snowflake one of them is special and that their feelings are more important than anything else. This is the result an entitled population with no concern for anyone but themselves. 
    I know that sounds harsh. But it’s a lot less harsh than this virus is going to treat them. Or more importantly, their grandparents. 

It's these kind of comments that really make me wonder...

Your comments (especially in this post) are full of typical political talking points and phrases. 

Isn't it sad that I can infer your political leaning from the way you talk?

And I can also take a good guess at which news channels you favor...

☹️

[EccentricM]

12 hours ago, Bob said:

Well, that's why I said that laws are often the response to bad/unlawful behavior. The mask policies should be evidence of this. People were not reacting so violently until the government began forcing them to be worn. 

What kind of people react with violence to mask laws for their own good? These people sound as "off" as people walking about nude. It's immature and entitled behaviour, typical of our modern society.

[Bob]

26 minutes ago, EccentricM said:

What kind of people react with violence to mask laws for their own good? These people sound as "off" as people walking about nude. It's immature and entitled behaviour, typical of our modern society.

You're missing the point, but that's fine. We don't always understand each other.

Edited July 14, 2020 by Bob

[EccentricM]

21 minutes ago, Bob said:

You're missing the point, but that's fine. We don't always understand each other.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I just made a statement.

[Bob]

4 minutes ago, EccentricM said:

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I just made a statement.

Don't worry about it. We're good. 

[pnutts]

Americans have a worldwide reputation of being Karens. Loud, demanding and no body tells me what to do. I have seen this in person, and not just among Rednecks.

I have a wife from the States and yes she is that way. Her mother, when she used to visit, would say about Canadian money, "Why can't you use US money?"  You know that hard to tell what bills you are paying with or used to be.

About metric system, she would say "Why can't everyone use the normal US system?" Even though only the US uses standard measures anymore and that is US standard not the old British standard.

 

Unfortunately many in the US congregations have that attitude and are not aware of it, it is normal to them.

Same in every land, we are molded by our surroundings and local attitudes which makes it harder to display Christian principles.

Edited July 14, 2020 by pnutts
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[Bob]

Lockdowns have consequences? Of course they do, and pretty serious health consequences during a pandemic in which good health is paramount to fighting the disease. 

 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/coronavirus-weight-gain-76-americans-nutrisystem