The Mysterious Coronavirus Spreading Worldwide

[dove]

1 hour ago, BenJepthah said:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30208-X/fulltext
    Some interesting findings. I will say no more.

yes literally. And yes it does.

Yes.

So None have a chance of escaping it?  I really don't have much or any hope in a vaccine working even if they develop one, but How are you so sure it will not eventually go away..there has to be millions that will survive to go through the GT and A. 

If that's the case, then it will be still around after the GT begins...do you think this could be when Jehovah steps in,,,when he says He will do it to save the Chosen ones? 

[daydream]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2020/06/29/coronavirus-mutation-science/?arc404=true July 2

 

This coronavirus mutation has taken over the world

Of the approximately 50,000 genomes of the new virus that researchers worldwide have uploaded to a shared database, about 70 percent carry the mutation, officially designated D614G but known more familiarly to scientists as “G.”

At least five laboratory experiments suggest that the mutation makes the virus more infectious, although only one of those studies has been peer-reviewed. That study, led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory  also asserts that patients with the G variant actually have more virus in their bodies, making them more likely to spread it to others.

 

Neville Sanjana, a geneticist at the New York Genome Center and New York University, was trying to figure out which genes enable SARS-CoV-2 to infiltrate human cells. But in experiments based on a gene sequence taken from an early case of the virus in Wuhan, he struggled to get that form of the virus to infect cells. Then the team switched to a model virus based on the G variant.

“We were shocked,” Sanjana said. “Voilà! It was just this huge increase in viral transduction.” They repeated the experiment in many types of cells, and every time the variant was many times more infectious.

 

Edited July 23, 2020 by Mclove

[Shawnster]

1 hour ago, Dove said:

So None have a chance of escaping it?  I really don't have much or any hope in a vaccine working even if they develop one, but How are you so sure it will not eventually go away..there has to be millions that will survive to go through the GT and A. 

 

The mortality rate of Covid-19 is rather small.  Latest figures are 632,658 deaths worldwide.  This pandemic is simply the deadly kind that is killing millions of people.  Yes, it will eventually be part of our every day life just like the Spanish Influenza virus is still with us today.  

 

No virus every completely "goes away."

 

[BenJepthah]

21 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

The mortality rate of Covid-19 is rather small.  Latest figures are 632,658 deaths worldwide.  This pandemic is simply the deadly kind that is killing millions of people.  Yes, it will eventually be part of our every day life just like the Spanish Influenza virus is still with us today.  

 

No virus every completely "goes away."

 

Ed zackley.  And what is more. There is compelling evidence that Europe had the virus in March of 2019.      More than a year ago.  
     Since most people show little or no symptoms. The symptoms vary wildly.  And the antibodies go away after 3 months. It is quite possible that any one of us has already had this virus ( or a variation) three times already! And didn’t even know it!

[BenJepthah]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html
 

here is the good news. The overall death rate has fallen and continues to decline. Which means that soon it will be at or below the threshold to call it an Epidemic. 

[Bob]

6 hours ago, cme said:

So, you have half of dozen of this and half of dozen of that.  Where does one go from here?  There is no clear cut understanding of this virus.  We know its deadly and its not going anywhere anytime soon so it seems.  The GB is telling us to use common sense and if one needs to work or go out or whatever is considered a necessity to do with caution.  If you don't have to go out then don't.  Why expose oneself and others?  This could be (and I am using this loosely) our "inner rooms" that Isaiah prophesied.  All of the organization world wide is in doors in compliance with the law and direction of the GB. So, we wait!

As I told brother Shawn (if you read our exchange) there are no good answers. But, the GB left outdoor activity to the discretion of the household, and they're not imposing rules on us regarding going out. 

 

But thank you!

Edited July 23, 2020 by Bob

[Bob]

6 hours ago, cme said:

The GB is telling us to use common sense and if one needs to work or go out or whatever is considered a necessity to do with caution.  If you don't have to go out then don't.  Why expose oneself and others?  This could be (and I am using this loosely) our "inner rooms" that Isaiah prophesied.  All of the organization world wide is in doors in compliance with the law and direction of the GB. So, we wait!

Well, all activity is not created equal, nor do all activity carry the same risks. For example, going to a park does not carry the same risk as attending a house party. Driving your car doesn't carry the same risk as taking an airplane. Going to the grocery store doesn't carry the same risk as sitting at a bar. So while I do appreciate your point, I would be careful hinting at a lack of obedience if some of us chose to do non-essential activities that carry little risk, or activities that don't carry anymore risk than essential activities. 

Edited July 23, 2020 by Bob

[Tortuga]

We are staying in our city of refuge and dont plan to leave the city until either the high priest or the avenger of blood are dead. I'm not sure how that relates to covid19 but it sounded good...😂

[BenJepthah]

3 minutes ago, Mephibosheth said:

We are staying in our city of refuge and dont plan to leave the city until either the high priest or the avenger of blood are dead. I'm not sure how that relates to covid19 but it sounded good...😂

That ALmost sounds like it applies. Pretty good. 

[AH173]

25 minutes ago, Mephibosheth said:

until either high priest or the avenger of blood are dead.

What if they all just go away, just disappear???  Poof....gone??

 

 

[pnutts]

4 hours ago, Mephibosheth said:

until either the high priest or the avenger of blood are dead.

Isn't Jesus now the high priest?  Hmmm he isn't never to die ( again anyway ). 🤔

[AH173]

Still on the rise! 

[Dages]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

We are drawing close to the 300k new cases per day...

[Hotteok]

1 hour ago, Dages said:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

We are drawing close to the 300k new cases per day...

Thats unbelievable

[Shawnster]

Keep in mind the number of total cases will never go down.  The same is true for the number of deaths.  Once a person has had coronavirus, they will always have had coronavirus.  Even if they recover, they will still have had coronavirus.  The same holds true for death.  Once a person is dead, they are dead.  So the total number of coronavirus cases will never go down.  The number of deaths will never go down

 

The number of NEW cases, on the other hand, will eventually go down.  Once under control, the number of new cases will be low.  The same is true for deaths.  Once under control the number of NEW deaths will be low.

 

The key is not looking at totals.  The key is looking at the rate of increase.

[tuntun]

22 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Keep in mind the number of total cases will never go down.  The same is true for the number of deaths.  Once a person has had coronavirus, they will always have had coronavirus.  Even if they recover, they will still have had coronavirus.  The same holds true for death.  Once a person is dead, they are dead.  So the total number of coronavirus cases will never go down.  The number of deaths will never go down

 

The number of NEW cases, on the other hand, will eventually go down.  Once under control, the number of new cases will be low.  The same is true for deaths.  Once under control the number of NEW deaths will be low.

 

The key is not looking at totals.  The key is looking at the rate of increase.

That's bad news brother shawn. I've also just been diagnosed with covid infection after the fourth PCR test.

 

Health facility is a place that have a very high risk. All employees and visitors here are instructed to wear face masks. But it already been more than 10 percent of employees here are infected. I think I will continue to be homed for an indefinite time. it's easy if you live alone, but another thing if you live with an elderly person.

[Friends just call me Ross]

33 minutes ago, tuntun said:

That's bad news brother shawn. I've also just been diagnosed with covid infection after the fourth PCR test.

 

Health facility is a place that have a very high risk. All employees and visitors here are instructed to wear face masks. But it already been more than 10 percent of employees here are infected. I think I will continue to be homed for an indefinite time. it's easy if you live alone, but another thing if you live with an elderly person.

Praying for your speedy and complete recovery, Brother Tuntun.   ❤️

[BenJepthah]

6 hours ago, tuntun said:

That's bad news brother shawn. I've also just been diagnosed with covid infection after the fourth PCR test.

 

Health facility is a place that have a very high risk. All employees and visitors here are instructed to wear face masks. But it already been more than 10 percent of employees here are infected. I think I will continue to be homed for an indefinite time. it's easy if you live alone, but another thing if you live with an elderly person.

I’m assuming that so far your asymptomatic or have very much or symptoms. Whomever you live with probably already has the virus also ( it’s just that contagious). Is there any governmental provision for healthcare workers who have contracted the virus? 

[hatcheckgirl]

Churches are open for service and now we see why we are continuing with Zoom meetings:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-24/nsw-health-warn-woman-positive-to-covid-after-funeral-church/12491744

 

This lady went went every day to a church or funeral service, spreading the disease. Another church was also the centre of an outbreak in Sydney.

[BenJepthah]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/508836-two-florida-mayors-urge-residents-to-wear-masks-at-home

       If it has come to this the War is lost. 

[tuntun]

3 hours ago, BenJepthah said:

I’m assuming that so far your asymptomatic or have very much or symptoms. Whomever you live with probably already has the virus also ( it’s just that contagious). Is there any governmental provision for healthcare workers who have contracted the virus? 

To find out someone has been infected with covid or not could be through various ways.

A few months ago by Rapid Test. Your blood at the tip of the finger is taken with a tool. But because the accuracy of this tool is very questionable, health facilities are rarely using this tool anymore. Swab tests are more accurate, but even if the results are positive, future results may turn negative. Most symptoms can be cured by itself. That is why employees who are indicated to be infected by covid are instructed to rest at home for 2 weeks. After 2 weeks they were tested again and the results were negative, they were declared safe.

[BenJepthah]

2 minutes ago, tuntun said:

To find out someone has been infected with covid or not could be through various ways.

A few months ago by Rapid Test. Your blood at the tip of the finger is taken with a tool. But because the accuracy of this tool is very questionable, health facilities are rarely using this tool anymore. Swab tests are more accurate, but even if the results are positive, future results may turn negative. Most symptoms can be cured by itself. That is why employees who are indicated to be infected by covid are instructed to rest at home for 2 weeks. After 2 weeks they were tested again and the results were negative, they were declared safe.

I also work in healthcare. In a COVID unit some days and with COVID precautions all days. 
    In the US , if you are exposed . You ho home for two weeks. If you are symptomatic, you are tested and go home for two weeks. The US govt has authorized “ COVID pay” so as not to deplete sick leave for healthcare personnel. Is it the same in your country? 

[EccentricM]

@tuntun Sorry to hear that. I pray and hope you have get through and make an easy recovery.

 

 

3 hours ago, BenJepthah said:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/508836-two-florida-mayors-urge-residents-to-wear-masks-at-home

       If it has come to this the War is lost. 

Now that "is" stupid. Mask wearing at home will not prevent touching, cross contamination etc. You'd have to isolate everyone within a room each with all their essentials and no interaction if that tactic was ever going to make a difference within the home.

Edited July 25, 2020 by EccentricM

[Shawnster]

@tuntun Hang in there and get better.  

[Shawnster]

10 hours ago, BenJepthah said:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/508836-two-florida-mayors-urge-residents-to-wear-masks-at-home

       If it has come to this the War is lost. 

The headline is a bit more sensational than the actual story; but not by  much.

 

These two mayors are proposing wearing masks and social distancing at home in multi-generational households.  This simply isn't going to work. In most homes like this everyone uses the same restroom, common areas, and common items like phones, TV remotes, light switches, etc...  Typically one person is preparing the food for the entire household.  By the time the first person in the house realizes they are ill with Covid or test positive, they have already exposed everyone in the house multiple times.