The Mysterious Coronavirus Spreading Worldwide

[Ludwika]

I feel so bad for that person, most of us die but once.

Ha ha, yes I could have phrased that better! Hopefully you all know what I mean.

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[pnutts]

14 hours ago, Old said:

I feel so bad for that person, most of us die but once.

I already died once. Does that mean that I have been absolved of my sins?

Must be true because I am now Peter Perfect or is it Perfect Peter and I am the 7th child of my parents - a son no less.

[Nirex]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/07/28/even-with-vaccine-we-will-be-dealing-with-this-forever-virus-experts.html

 

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Even with vaccine, 'We will be dealing with this forever': Virus experts Frieden, Osterholm

 

[Tortuga]

1 hour ago, pnutts said:

I already died once. Does that mean that I have been absolved of my sins?

Must be true because I am now Peter Perfect or is it Perfect Peter and I am the 7th child of my parents - a son no less.

No, you have to stay dead for more than a week...😁

[Shawnster]

2 hours ago, Nirex said:

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/07/28/even-with-vaccine-we-will-be-dealing-with-this-forever-virus-experts.html

Even with vaccine, 'We will be dealing with this forever': Virus experts Frieden, Osterholm

 

Well, yeah.  That's how viruses work.  Once they are here, they are here.  That's why we still have bubonic plague, smallpox, Spanish influenza, etc...  

[Nemo]

Whelp here comes the King Of the North...secret medical plan.
 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/19/opinions/vaccine-covid-19-russia-hack-us-sepkowitz/index.html

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-russia-vaccine/virology-institute-launches-russias-second-covid-19-vaccine-human-trial-idUSKCN24T2MZ

My reaction from yesterday to today...the world is gonna end soon

Edited July 29, 2020 by Nemo

[Hotteok]

48 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Well, yeah.  That's how viruses work.  Once they are here, they are here.  That's why we still have bubonic plague, smallpox, Spanish influenza, etc...  

I’m curious, are we already immune to Spanish flu? Or is it just not active yet? 
 

[Shawnster]

11 hours ago, Tryin'SoHardToBeSpiritual said:

I’m curious, are we already immune to Spanish flu? Or is it just not active yet? 
 

The Spanish Influenza was the H1N1 strain.  https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html  Now, there are different strains and mutations to the H1N1.  

 

There are vaccines for various H1N1 flu strains.  https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/general.htm  https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/blog/vaccine-development-spanish-flu

 

It is estimated that even today 150,000 and 500,000 people die annually from the H1N1 flu.  https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/23/health/h1n1-u-s-fast-facts/index.html

 

That's 500,000 people in a year.  Over 600,000 have died from Covid-19 and the year is not over yet.  https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

   

Edited July 29, 2020 by Shawnster

[daydream]

On 7/28/2020 at 9:38 AM, Ludwika said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

In one city in the US 1 person is dying every 8 minutes according to a report just 3 days ago.

 

http://shoebat.com/2020/07/24/one-person-dies-every-eight-minutes-from-covid-19/   July 24, 2020

One statistic was recently reported by Yahoo! News, which is that according to the current information, approximately one person is dying every eight minutes of COVID-19

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COVID-19 has ravaged Florida, with more than 237,000 people testing positive and 2,013 dying from the virus in July alone. A record 173 Floridians died from the virus Thursday, an average of more than one every eight minutes. And that has taken a heavy toll on residents older than 65, who account for just 13% of the state’s coronavirus cases but 82% of the fatalities

It could be similar to what happened in New York city in March 2020.

https://www.newsweek.com/one-new-york-city-resident-died-every-12-minutes-coronavirus-over-weekend-1495097  March 30

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New York City's average fatality rate due to COVID-19 amounted to roughly one death every 12 minutes—or five deaths per hour—between Thursday and Sunday evening, according to data reports published by the NYC Department of Health.

 

[runner92]

18 hours ago, Shawnster said:

Well, yeah.  That's how viruses work.  Once they are here, they are here.  That's why we still have bubonic plague, smallpox, Spanish influenza, etc...  

Exactly. The only thing different is that they find treatments. This is why it’s funny to me that they don’t seem to be looking into any and are blocking any potential treatments. Everything’s about the vaccine. I’m very leery of that. 

[BenJepthah]

28 minutes ago, runner92 said:

Exactly. The only thing different is that they find treatments. This is why it’s funny to me that they don’t seem to be looking into any and are blocking any potential treatments. Everything’s about the vaccine. I’m very leery of that. 

Both Rendensivir and Hydroxychloroquin appear by observation of clinicians to actually work. But the studies are all across the board and some are outright suspect.  So, there are treatments. Just not long term studies.  

[pnutts]

Canada just approved  Rendensivir, US bought the world supply or most of it., but warns against Trump"s drug due to heart problems showing up plus most studies now say it doesn't work, especially if already infected.

[Old]

Just for the record, bubonic plague is a bacterial infection and not a viral infection. Plague is treatable with antibiotics. Viral infections do not respond to antibiotucs. 

[BenJepthah]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/1288520743693824005

    Time for a diving bell. Da Fauch has spoken! 

[hatcheckgirl]

1 hour ago, BenJepthah said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/1288520743693824005

    Time for a diving bell. Da Fauch has spoken! 

Why is this advice a surprise or even debatable?

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-07/doctor-who-warned-of-coronavirus-dies-in-china/11941948

 

Dr Wenliang Li, the Chinese ophthalmologist who blew the whistle back in January warned his fellow medics to use protection. 

“Dr Li sent a message to medical staff advising them to wear masks and protection to avoid infection after he noticed several patients presenting with a virus similar to the deadly SARS epidemic.”

 

He was an eye doctor, and also well trained in understanding what to do in epidemics such as SARS and MERS. We know he wasn’t listened to, and the rest is history. Why do people have to be so obtuse when advice is given to protect yourselves, to do whatever you can, and if that means having to wear a mask, a face shied, goggles, etc so be it. It boggles the mind the responses in that twitter feed.

[BenJepthah]

3 hours ago, pnutts said:

Canada just approved  Rendensivir, US bought the world supply or most of it., but warns against Trump"s drug due to heart problems showing up plus most studies now say it doesn't work, especially if already infected.

I work on a Cardiac floor and a COVID floor, the heart warning is not valid. The dose used is far smaller for COVID than would cause a problem in most cases by far. It’s even smaller than the dose used to treat reumatoid arthritis. 

Just now, hatcheckgirl said:

Why is this advice a surprise or even debatable?

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-07/doctor-who-warned-of-coronavirus-dies-in-china/11941948

 

Dr Wenliang Li, the Chinese ophthalmologist who blew the whistle back in January warned his fellow medics to use protection. 

“Dr Li sent a message to medical staff advising them to wear masks and protection to avoid infection after he noticed several patients presenting with a virus similar to the deadly SARS epidemic.”

 

He was an eye doctor, and also well trained in understanding what to do in epidemics such as SARS and MERS. We know he wasn’t listened to, and the rest is history. Why do people have to be so obtuse when advice is given to protect yourselves, to do whatever you can, and if that means having to wear a mask, a face shied, goggles, etc so be it. It boggles the mind the responses in that twitter feed.

It’s not really. In the hospital we already do this. 

[GoldAussieGirl]

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-australia-53589817

 

Australia's virus-hit state of Victoria has reported its worst death toll and case rise - prompting fears that a six-week lockdown of state capital Melbourne is not working.

 

The state confirmed 13 new deaths and 723 new cases on Thursday - a 36% jump on the case record set on Monday.

 

There are fears now that Melbourne's six-week lockdown, which began on 7 July, will need to be extended.

 

The spike meant Australia overall had its deadliest day in the pandemic.

[hatcheckgirl]

Really heartbreaking seeing how the cases are rising again here in Australia, and in particular in Victoria. 
 

What this shows is how quickly case numbers grow when humans don’t follow the precautions, with some flagrantly flaunting the rules. 
 

For instance, three teenagers returning to Queensland from the Victorian hotspots lied on their border documents and went back to work, shopping and restaurants and clubs for days before they were found to have covid.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-30/coronavirus-queensland-three-women-charged/12508498

 

This has meant schools, restaurants, and other establishments have closed for deep cleaning, thousands are lining up for testing, and Queensland lost its community spread covid free status. 
Unlikey we can rely on humans in this system to do the right thing. 

[Allabord4Jah]

this story on BBC july 30, 2020

 

‘Covid-19 could wipe us off the map’

 

 

 

[Bob]

8 hours ago, hatcheckgirl said:

Really heartbreaking seeing how the cases are rising again here in Australia, and in particular in Victoria. 
 

What this shows is how quickly case numbers grow when humans don’t follow the precautions, with some flagrantly flaunting the rules. 
 

For instance, three teenagers returning to Queensland from the Victorian hotspots lied on their border documents and went back to work, shopping and restaurants and clubs for days before they were found to have covid.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-30/coronavirus-queensland-three-women-charged/12508498

 

This has meant schools, restaurants, and other establishments have closed for deep cleaning, thousands are lining up for testing, and Queensland lost its community spread covid free status. 
Unlikey we can rely on humans in this system to do the right thing. 

I don’t think it’s correct to simply attribute the spread to people flaunting the rules.

 

Almost 1000 of our brothers and sisters died from COVID. Were they ignoring precautions and flaunting the rules?

 

No. This thing is doing what viruses do - and that’s spread. 

 

There are tens of millions world wide obeying the precautions. It’s still spreading though. 
 

Nothing will prevent this from spreading. It’s firmly seeded in humanity. Only a vaccine, a SARS-like killer mutation or herd immunity will cause this to settle down. 

Edited July 30, 2020 by Bob

[Bob]

Fauci now suggests we wear goggles as additional protection, which basically, to me anyway, shows how little control we have over the spread of this thing.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/health/fauci-suggests-goggles-eye-shield-for-better-protection-against-coronavirus.amp

Next will realistically be hazmats suits, all

jokes aside. 
 

We as humans naturally want control over this. We don’t have it. We want to believe precautions like distancing and masks will control it. It doesn’t. 

 

So I’m not any longer of the opinion that all you have to do is obey the guidelines and this will stop the spread (and that’s not to say we should disobey them. We should obey them all).

 

I don’t believe there are any good answers. I just believe that each person should do whatever they have to do to protect themselves and others. 

 

[Dages]

19 minutes ago, Bob said:

herd immunity

I don't think this will happen... People can get sick again.

[Bob]

9 minutes ago, Dages said:

I don't think this will happen... People can get sick again.

Yes but that’s not a bad thing. Herd immunity doesn’t necessarily mean you cannot ever get sick again. It can also mean that when you get the disease again, your body has memory and will fight it off without you having severe illness. 
 

 

Edited July 30, 2020 by Bob

[zoebarry]

 

Matt 24:22. “In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short”.

[Dages]

40 minutes ago, Bob said:

49 minutes ago, Dages said:

 

Yes but that’s not a bad thing. Herd immunity doesn’t necessarily mean you cannot ever get sick again. It can also mean that when you get the disease again, your body has memory and will fight it off without you having severe illness. 

I've read about the fact that the body doesn't produce antibodies against it.