Mysterious how evil people have evil faces.

[Hotteok]

Even those who try to look nice often fail if they are leading immoral, violent lives.

Often they have evil facial expressions, something they can’t hide even if they are crafty.

I think this proves God exists and that He created them.

 

My logic is :

People say morals is something relative.. that there is no absolute badness or absolute goodness.

But somehow, weirdly, those who do bad things have wicked-looking faces and others can often tell that they don’t have good vibes. People get alarmed around such people.

 

So in a sense, people can fool themselves into thinking they are just normal people but their faces show how they really are, as if God pre-programmed into their nerve systems that make people look like this and that if they do certain things. To me, this is an evidence that leads to the intelligent creator and the objectivity of morals, instead of it being subjective and relative. 

 

The creator of humans has the fixed standard of morals.

Edited February 18, 2020 by Tryin'SoHardToBeSpiritual

[Old]

Your 'logic' does not match my experience. 

[Hotteok]

14 minutes ago, Old said:

Your 'logic' does not match my experience. 

I could see why you say that. 

Some bad people I met in a prison looked docile.

So I should say there are some exceptions. 

[Myew]

I've grown up around Psychopaths and Sociopaths. There are many people who can be manipulative and selfish while acting kindly, speaking softly. A person may look good or bad, but only Jehovah can see the heart.

(1 Samuel 16:7) But Jehovah said to Samuel: “Do not pay attention to his appearance and how tall he is, for I have rejected him. For the way man sees is not the way God sees, because mere man sees what appears to the eyes, but Jehovah sees into the heart.”
(Psalm 28:3) Do not drag me away with the wicked, with those practicing what is hurtful, Those who are speaking words of peace with their fellow man while evil is in their hearts.
(Psalm 55:21) His words are smoother than butter, But conflict is in his heart. His words are softer than oil, But they are drawn swords.
(Psalm 62:4) For they consult together to topple him from his high position; They take pleasure in lying. With their mouth they bless, but inside they are cursing.

[dove]

There's a saying, 'until 40 you have the face you were born with, after that the face you deserve'..

 

[Lee49]

What, Me Worry?

 

[Thesauron]

Even those who try to look nice often fail if they are leading immoral, violent lives.
Often they have evil facial expressions, something they can’t hide even if they are crafty.
I think this proves God exists and that He created them.
 
My logic is :
People say morals is something relative.. that there is no absolute badness or absolute goodness.
But somehow, weirdly, those who do bad things have wicked-looking faces and others can often tell that they don’t have good vibes. People get alarmed around such people.
 
So in a sense, people can fool themselves into thinking they are just normal people but their faces show how they really are, as if God pre-programmed into their nerve systems that make people look like this and that if they do certain things. To me, this is an evidence that leads to the intelligent creator and the objectivity of morals, instead of it being subjective and relative. 
 
The creator of humans has the fixed standard of morals.

Well, our opinion of a person reflects back on how we view them. There is no such thing as an ‘evil face’. We are really setting ourselves up for some bad mistakes if we judge people depending on their looks. Judging people because of their looks leads to racism and all sorts of bad things. (Isaiah 1:3, 4; John 7:24)

[Old]

4 hours ago, Tryin'SoHardToBeSpiritual said:

I could see why you say that. 

Some bad people I met in a prison looked docile.

So I should say there are some exceptions. 

Some exceptions? Off the top of my head here are two of the  most evil persons I know of.

 

 

They do not look particularly evil to me.

[Hotteok]

4 hours ago, Thesauron said:

Well, our opinion of a person reflects back on how we view them. There is no such thing as an ‘evil face’. We are really setting ourselves up for some bad mistakes if we judge people depending on their looks. Judging people because of their looks leads to racism and all sorts of bad things. (Isaiah 1:3, 4; John 7:24)

Yes, I don't judge people based on their looks or their outward facial features.

It was more about the expression patterns some evil people tend to display.. and sensitive people are often right about their intuitions, not always, of course, as I have observed myself especially in a prison where you can meet many gentle, kind people but when I read their records, (I had access to them) I couldn't believe my eyes. 

 

[Hotteok]

20 minutes ago, Tryin'SoHardToBeSpiritual said:

Yes, I don't judge people based on their looks or their outward facial features.

It was more about the expression patterns some evil people tend to display.. and sensitive people are often right about their intuitions, not always, of course, as I have observed myself especially in a prison where you can meet many gentle, kind people but when I read their records, (I had access to them) I couldn't believe my eyes. 

 

But then again, it might be because there's nothing 'bad' they can do there and thus they're not leading such bad lives in a prison.

[Thesauron]

Yes, I don't judge people based on their looks or their outward facial features.
It was more about the expression patterns some evil people tend to display.. and sensitive people are often right about their intuitions, not always, of course, as I have observed myself especially in a prison where you can meet many gentle, kind people but when I read their records, (I had access to them) I couldn't believe my eyes. 
 

This is something that you should be rather careful about believing. My understanding is that it is false more often than true. Whenever we start to believe that we can somehow judge people depending on their outward appearance, we should review our own way of seeing people.

[Lee49]

16 hours ago, Old said:

Some exceptions? Off the top of my head here are two of the  most evil persons I know of.

 

 

They do not look particularly evil to me.

Nor does this one!

 

 

[Hotteok]

I think my original writing gave a wrong impression.

Not intentional, because I simply chose a wrong English word out of misunderstanding of that word.

 

What I meant to say was one's facial expressions.

At the very moment of entertaining evil thoughts or of actually performing evil things (I don't know if you have witnessed them firsthand)

people can LOOK scary and evil. 

 

I mean, when people are truly evil or right about to kill/beat up somebody, 

They can be scary with their facial expressions and their overall aura that comes out of their entire existence. 

 

If such people are depicted in movies or cartoons, even in such art works, such people are seen as scary, often with very wicked looks.

 

So how do such things even exist? 

How can anybody, even a small kid, know almost instinctively and instantly that such and such looks 'look' wicked and scary at all? 

And how can it be understood in such a way all over the world, throughout all cultures? 

The only comprehension I have is that such knowledge had been pre-programmed in people's mind already. 

 

I mean, no one can be murdering (Sorry for the graphic description, but I had to put it) and purely smiling at the same time.

Of course, if such people are taking a rest and are fully relaxed, they can be pretty normal and even look quite peaceful.

 But even then, evil deeds or history kind of 'accumulate' over one's face and don't fade away that easily. 

 

And I think it already proves that evil deeds do exist

that there is a line between good and bad and people can't just dismiss the existence of evil just like that,

because it's a thing. It's not just some abstract concept. It's very real. 

 

 

Edited April 30, 2020 by Tryin'SoHardToBeSpiritual

[Paradise-Lover]

On 4/30/2020 at 12:46 PM, Tryin'SoHardToBeSpiritual said:

evil deeds or history kind of 'accumulate' over one's face and don't fade away that easily. 

 

On 4/30/2020 at 12:46 PM, Tryin'SoHardToBeSpiritual said:

The only comprehension I have is that such knowledge had been pre-programmed in people's mind already.

 

On 2/18/2020 at 3:57 PM, Tryin'SoHardToBeSpiritual said:

But somehow, weirdly, those who do bad things have wicked-looking faces and others can often tell that they don’t have good vibes. People get alarmed around such people.

 

On 2/18/2020 at 3:57 PM, Tryin'SoHardToBeSpiritual said:

So in a sense, people can fool themselves into thinking they are just normal people but their faces show how they really are, as if God pre-programmed into their nerve systems that make people look like this and that if they do certain things. To me, this is an evidence that leads to the intelligent creator

😷😷

Well, well, well... Facial expressions speak volumes. No doubt! However, a better scriptural way to honestly peep into people's core innermost being & gauge who they really are remains "their deepest attitudes & feelings, their goals & standards of behaviour." As Song 57 would say, “It’s the heart and not the face”. 😷😷

[Pjdriver]

On 2/18/2020 at 9:57 AM, Tryin'SoHardToBeSpiritual said:

Often they have evil facial expressions, something they can’t hide even if they are crafty.

I think this proves God exists and that He created them.

Timothy, I think I understand what you mean.  I think it’s it’s just natural that at some point an evil person will manifest their evil across their face or by their facial expressions.

But even  a person who is not evil,  can get very upset and angry or even depressed and without context we might look at their expression and think,  they look criminal.

Do you know this “criminal”?  Almost any face, (without knowledge of who they are)...could at times be mistakenly thought of as sinister . 

 

      

If Looks can be deceiving, facial expressions that are constantly changing are not a good way to determine a persons character.

Edited May 2, 2020 by Pjdriver

[Brother_Bliss]

“Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light. It is therefore nothing extraordinary if his ministers also keep disguising themselves as ministers of righteousness.”

- 2 Corinthians 11:14, 15
 

For this reason, I will not judge a book by it's cover 😉

 

 

[dove]

2 hours ago, Pjdriver said:

Timothy, I think I understand what you mean.  I think it’s it’s just natural that at some point an evil person will manifest their evil across their face or by their facial expressions.

But even  a person who is not evil,  can get very upset and angry or even depressed and without context we might look at their expression and think,  they look criminal.

Do you know this “criminal”?  Almost any face, (without knowledge of who they are)...could at times be mistakenly thought of as sinister . 

 

      

If Looks can be deceiving, facial expressions that are constantly changing are not a good way to determine a persons character.

Is that Brother Rutherford..

[dove]

3 hours ago, Dismal_Bliss said:

“Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light. It is therefore nothing extraordinary if his ministers also keep disguising themselves as ministers of righteousness.”

- 2 Corinthians 11:14, 15
 

For this reason, I will not judge a book by it's cover 😉

 

 

Remember Susan Boyle?..

3 hours ago, Dismal_Bliss said:

“Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light. It is therefore nothing extraordinary if his ministers also keep disguising themselves as ministers of righteousness.”

- 2 Corinthians 11:14, 15
 

For this reason, I will not judge a book by it's cover 😉

 

 

Remember Susan Boyle...

[Old]

I am too dense to see the application of your point. I am aware of Suzan Boyle, how does she fit into the topic 'Mysterious how evil people have evil faces? "

[dove]

I was answering to Dismal Bliss' quotation 'not to judge a book by it's cover'..not evil people have evil faces.

[Old]

4 minutes ago, Dove said:

I was answering to Dismal Bliss' quotation 'not to judge a book by it's cover'..not evil people have evil faces.

 

3 hours ago, Dismal_Bliss said:

For this reason, I will not judge a book by it's cover 😉

 

 

Got it, thank you. I couldn't think of Suzan Boyle face as evil.

[Friends just call me Ross]

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Mysterious how evil people have evil faces.

I resemble that remark.     

 

 

[Pjdriver]

10 hours ago, Dove said:

Is that Brother Rutherford..

Yes. If you knew nothing of him.
You might look at that pic and say, I wouldn’t want to meet him in a dark alley. 6’2” 225 lbs

 

Are we not glad that Jehovah looks beyond appearances? 

Edited May 3, 2020 by Pjdriver

[Katty]

You always have the most interesting topics @Tryin'SoHardToBeSpiritual
I can kinda see what you mean about facial expressions. I'm highly certain my older brother is a sociopath, and I've been around compulsive liars, and used to read a lot about true crime and people like Ted Bundy. There is a pattern with people with varying forms of antisocial personality disorder. Because they don't experience the full spectrum of emotions and have little to no empathy for the feelings of others, they typically either have a blank facial expression or an inappropriate facial expression for the occasion. I've heard experiences of people who have had encounters with sadists and the most disturbing thing they've found about them is the fact that they can do horrible things, but have no change in facial expression. I think I've heard the expression it's like "they're dead in their eyes." really chilling. I've heard with psychopaths, even when they smile, it looks off, because it never seems to look like a genuine smile, or a smile would form at a time when a normal person would never smile. I mean, I believe they call it antisocial personality disorder, because they're tendencies go either against societal shared values, or against what's good for the community, and their emotions are misaligned with the norm.