Russia invades Ukraine

[Leonard Match Valid]

Here in Brazil there is this article saying that they can even dialogue with the USA and the Pope for resolution....

https://jovempan.com.br/noticias/mundo/russia-quer-dialogar-com-eua-franca-e-papa-sobre-uma-solucao-para-guerra-na-ucrania.html

Any news outside Brazil about this?

[Leonard Match Valid]

1 minute ago, Leonard Match Valid said:

Aqui no Brasil tem esse artigo dizendo que podem até dialogar com os EUA e o Papa para resolução....

https://jovempan.com.br/noticias/mundo/russia-quer-dialogar-com-eua-franca-e-papa-sobre-uma-solucao-para-guerra-na-ucrania.html

Alguma notícia fora do Brasil sobre isso?

"Russia is willing to hold talks with the United States, France and Pope Francis on a solution to the war in Ukraine, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Tuesday, 25. "We are willing to discuss all this with the Americans, the French and the pontiff," the representative of the Russian presidency said at a daily press conference by telephone. This was in response to the initiative of French President Emmanuel Macron, who asked Pope Francis on Monday, 24, to make contact with Russian President Vladimir Putin and the patriarch of the Orthodox Church, Kirill, and U.S. President Joe Biden to give impetus to the peace process. "If this really goes in the direction of efforts to find possible solutions, it can be seen in a positive light," Peskov said, adding that "Russia is open to all contacts, but we must assume that Ukraine has forbidden the continuation of negotiations," referring to Zelensky's decision not to hold any negotiations with the Russian leader.

"The call for a dialogue had already been outlined by U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, who demanded that Russia's Defense Minister Sergei Choigu keep open the doors to lines of communication amid the Ukraine war, as reported by the Pentagon on Friday, 21. The U.S. has on previous occasions stressed the importance of keeping the channels of dialogue open in order to avoid accidental confrontations with Moscow on the military terrain, given the danger that this could lead to an escalation of tensions. This is the second time that the heads of the defense sectors of the two countries have spoken by telephone since the beginning of the war in Ukraine in February of this year. The first conversation took place on May 13. According to the U.S. Defense Department, Austin also spoke by phone with Ukraine's Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov to reiterate Washington's "unwavering commitment" to the people of the Eastern European country."

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[Sofia]

Yes:  https://www.romereports.com/en/2022/10/25/russia-signals-openness-to-popes-intervention-in-finding-solution-to-war/

 

The Russian Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov addressed Pope Francis' meeting with Emmanuel Macron in a press briefing. 

He was asked to comment on the French president's request to the Pope to call Vladimir Putin as well as Russian Patriarch Kirill and Joe Biden to advocate for peace. 

Peskov responded by saying that the proposal can be evaluated as a positive one if it works toward finding a solution to the conflict. But he noted that Macron did not suggest speaking with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who he says has closed the door to communication with Moscow.

The Kremlin spokesperson added that Russia is “ready to discuss all of these issues with the Americans, the French or the pontiff.”

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And here a russian source: https://tass.com/politics/1527135

UKRAINE CRISIS

25 OCT, 13:49

Moscow welcomes possible involvement of Vatican, Washington in talks on Ukraine crisis

"Russia is open to any communication, but we must proceed from the stance that Ukraine has codified the non-resumption of the talks," Dmitry Peskov noted

 

MOSCOW, October 25. /TASS/. Moscow welcomes French President Emmanuel Macron's proposal to engage Pope Francis and the U.S. leadership in talks on Ukraine in terms of finding possible solutions, Russian Presidential Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Tuesday.

"If it is all in the vein of finding a possible solution, we can evaluate it [Macron’s proposal] as a positive one," Peskov said.

He said, however, that Macron’s proposal did not imply the idea of somehow influencing the stance of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky on the talks with Russia.

"There is nothing in this statement that anyone should call President Zelensky and deal with the legal framework, which currently prohibits any type of negotiations with the Russian side," Peskov continued.

 

The Le Point magazine reported earlier in the day that Macron has asked Pope Francis to call Russian President Vladimir Putin to help resolve the Ukrainian crisis. Pope Francis received Macron on Monday, October 24. It was the third meeting between the French president and the pontiff.

According to the magazine, during a 55-minute audience with the pope on Monday, Macron asked the pontiff to call President Putin, Patriarch of Moscow and All-Russia Kirill as well as US President Joe Biden.

Peskov added that Russia "is ready to discuss all of these issues with the Americans, the French or the pontiff."

"Russia is open to any communication, but we must proceed from the stance that Ukraine has codified the non-resumption of the talks," Peskov noted.

In late October, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky enacted a decision by Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council on the impossibility of talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

[Sofia]

Pope appeals to politicians to avert threat of nuclear war over Ukraine

https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-appeals-politicians-avert-threat-nuclear-war-over-ukraine-2022-10-25/

 

At the opening on Sunday, Macron said the Russian Orthodox Church, whose leader Patriarch Kirill is a ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, was allowing itself to be manipulated by the country's authorities to justify their war in Ukraine and urged it to resist such pressure.

The closing ceremony was attended by Christians, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs, Buddhists and representatives of other religions.

[Dustparticle]

2 minutes ago, Sofia said:

Pope appeals to politicians to avert threat of nuclear war over Ukraine

https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-appeals-politicians-avert-threat-nuclear-war-over-ukraine-2022-10-25/

 

At the opening on Sunday, Macron said the Russian Orthodox Church, whose leader Patriarch Kirill is a ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, was allowing itself to be manipulated by the country's authorities to justify their war in Ukraine and urged it to resist such pressure.

The closing ceremony was attended by Christians, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs, Buddhists and representatives of other religions.

Does he know anything about what the future holds for mankind?

[Sofia]

8 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

Does he know anything about what the future holds for mankind?

He seems worried...

[Sofia]

Boy! This sure was a day full of news.

Now Russian Federation claims the reason for Ukraine War was Satan´s religions from the West.

Now the religion is clear to be blamed for Russia´s attack... Where´s the Denazification rhetoric now?

 

https://www.perild.com/2022/10/25/the-security-council-of-the-russian-federation-decided-to-de-satanize-ukraine/

In Russia, they saw “hundreds of sects” in Ukraine and decided to fix it. Say the citizens “refused Orthodox values.”

In Russia, they saw “hundreds of sects” in Ukraine and wanted to carry out “desatanization”. This was stated by Assistant Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Alexei Pavlov, reports the Russian agency RIA Novosti.

According to Pavlov, Ukraine has turned into a “totalitarian hypersect” where citizens have abandoned Orthodox values, so “desatanization” is becoming an urgent issue. Pavlov believes that the exact number of sects in Ukraine is unknown, but “the number is in the hundreds.”

with the continuation of the “special military operation” it becomes more and more urgent to carry out the “desatanization” of Ukraine.

 

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"desatanization" read quickly sounds more like a vermin plague sanitation operation ....

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by Sofia

[sully313]

47 minutes ago, Sofia said:

Pope appeals to politicians to avert threat of nuclear war over Ukraine

https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-appeals-politicians-avert-threat-nuclear-war-over-ukraine-2022-10-25/

 

At the opening on Sunday, Macron said the Russian Orthodox Church, whose leader Patriarch Kirill is a ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, was allowing itself to be manipulated by the country's authorities to justify their war in Ukraine and urged it to resist such pressure.

The closing ceremony was attended by Christians, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs, Buddhists and representatives of other religions.

the pope looking like me when i try to understand how people who listen to him actually believe this guys nonsense

 

regardless nice reporting, this is way easier to come here vs sifting through everything online!!!

[Hugh O'D]

8 hours ago, Sofia said:

According to Pavlov, Ukraine has turned into a “totalitarian hypersect” where citizens have abandoned Orthodox values

Just speculating but this allows two things

1) As long as Russia maintained the NAZI rhetoric it would be hard for them to sell a peace treaty with Zelensky to their own side. This allows them to continue to demonize the Ukrainian population while making a truce with the Government.

 

2) Flip side, if the people are satanists rejecting "orthodox values" then they can use that to justify war crimes against civilians.

 

We'll see. Thanks again @Sofia for going through all the reports so we don't have to.

 

[Sofia]

1 hour ago, Hugh O'D said:

2) Flip side, if the people are satanists rejecting "orthodox values" then they can use that to justify war crimes against civilians.

Its a change in the Rhetoric. And this change came from the russian security council. So there´s definitely a plan. Could it be Russia is becoming "tired" of this war? Could it be there´s not possible to declare a victory?

Will they press charges on religion to justify all?

In Russia rumors are being spread that Western Sects are willing to destroy Putin, JWs are included in the demon propaganda spread recently.

These are definitely EXCITING times! We are seeing it happen!

Edited October 26, 2022 by Sofia

[Sofia]

Rumors about unsatisfaction on Putin´s action in Ukraine are rising:

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-latest-news-putin-facing-inevitable-defeat-in-kherson-as-west-rejects-moscows-dirty-bomb-claims-12541713?postid=4739049#liveblog-body

 

Putin 'directly confronted' by members of inner circle over war progress

Vladimir Putin is coming under increasing pressure from pro-war officials in his inner circle as he struggles to make progress in Ukraine, according to military analysts. 

The US-based Institute for the Study of War said members of Mr Putin's inner circle who are fielding combat forces in Ukraine have continued to voice their dissatisfaction with Russian war efforts.

In its latest report, it said some officials had "directly confronted" Mr Putin.

[Leonard Match Valid]

Russia began a mass nuclear launch drill with its strategic nuclear forces dubbed "Grom" (Thunder, in Russian) on Wednesday, 26, under the supervision of President Vladimir Putin, who monitors everything via video conference. "Under the leadership of Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces Vladimir Putin, land, sea and air strategic deterrence forces held training, during which practical launches of ballistic and cruise missiles were carried out," the Kremlin said in a statement. One ballistic missile was launched over the Kamchatka peninsula in Russia's Far East and another from the waters of the Barents Sea in the Arctic. The exercise involved Tu-95 long-range bomber aircraft. "The tasks set during the strategic deterrence training exercise were fully accomplished, with all missiles hitting their target," the Kremlin added.  The tests come amid Russian fears about Ukraine's use of dirty bombs. 

Russia's "strategic" forces are equipped with intercontinental missiles, long-range strategic bombers, submarines, surface ships and naval aviation. According to Defense Minister Serguei Choigu, these are exercises in response to an enemy attack with similar weapons. The minister, who addressed Putin as "comrade" and commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces, informed the president about the progress of the maneuvers, which lasted only a few minutes. These are the first exercises to be held since the start of the so-called "special military operation" in Ukraine, launched in February this year. The "Grom" maneuvers are aimed at testing the level of preparedness of the command centers of the nuclear forces, the Russian presidency detailed.

These exercises take place in the midst of the offensive in Ukraine and the crisis with Westerners, and a day after US President Joe Biden said that Russia would be making "an incredibly serious mistake" if it decided to use tactical nuclear weapons in the war against Ukraine. "Russia would be making an incredibly grave mistake by using tactical nuclear weapons," the president told the press. The Russian government has denounced the possibility of Ukraine using a "dirty bomb" on its own territory to blame Russia for using weapons of mass destruction and generate a harsh response from the West, a charge Kiev has rejected and which Paris, Washington and London see as a "pretext for a Russian military escalation." Russian officials have repeatedly threatened to use nuclear weapons in the event of an existential threat to the state. Recently, the president warned that Russia will use every arsenal it has to defend its territorial integrity and the four recently annexed Ukrainian regions of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhia. 

As the Pentagon had previously reported, Russia informed the United States about the plans, which coincide with NATO's nuclear exercises, called "Steadfast Noon," that have been held annually for a decade. The Military Alliance training began on the 17th and runs through October 30th. General Pat Ryder, a spokesman for the US Department of Defense, was responsible for releasing the information and explaining that "Russia is fulfilling its obligations for arms control and transparency commitments with these notifications."

https://jovempan.com.br/noticias/mundo/russia-simula-contra-ataque-nuclear-em-meio-a-temor-de-uso-de-bomba-suja-na-ucrania.html


 

*I wonder if he will quickly use nukes without warning, as he did with the invasion of Ukraine.

He drops the bomb and then gives notice that he dropped it.

Will he ?

 

[Sofia]

https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2022/28-october/news/world/ukraine-urges-christian-leaders-across-the-world-to-support-them-against-russia

 

[Doug]

From the article:  "The Pope invited religious leaders to join a special "Cry For Peace" day of prayer for Ukraine at the Colosseum , in Rome , on Tuesday 11/01/22.

 

👍 

[jrnievas]

1 hour ago, Doug said:

From the article:  "The Pope invited religious leaders to join a special "Cry For Peace" day of prayer for Ukraine at the Colosseum , in Rome , on Tuesday 11/01/22.

 

👍

What if at that event, many leaders from the United Nations were also invited or joined?  😬

Edited October 28, 2022 by jrnievas

[jrnievas]

Sorry, is that event already take place or not? 😬

Edited October 28, 2022 by jrnievas

[Michelle112]

23 minutes ago, jrnievas said:

Sorry, is that event already take place or not? 😬

No it hasn't.  It's to be held 1st November (Tuesday) 🙂

[Michelle112]

12 minutes ago, Michelle112 said:

No it hasn't.  It's to be held 1st November (Tuesday) 🙂

Actually, I'm not sure now....I just found this. Sorry, I mustn't have my brains in gear today 😁

https://thebostonpilot.com/article.php?ID=193483

[jrnievas]

2 hours ago, Doug said:

From the article:  "The Pope invited religious leaders to join a special "Cry For Peace" day of prayer for Ukraine at the Colosseum , in Rome , on Tuesday 11/01/22.

 

👍

To clarify, the Tuesday in the article refers to October 25, 2022 .. not on November 1, 2022 .. the event took place already ..

 

 

[Doug]

5 minutes ago, jrnievas said:

To clarify, the Tuesday in the article refers to October 25, 2022 .. not on November 1, 2022 .. the event took place already ..

 

Further clarification:

 

Spoiler

They are wandering in confusion in the land.    Ex. 14:3      

 

[Sofia]

6 hours ago, jrnievas said:

Sorry, is that event already take place or not? 😬

https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-appeals-politicians-avert-threat-nuclear-war-over-ukraine-2022-10-25/

Already happened. Oct 25th

Here´s the pope´s schedule for you to confirm: 

https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/events/year.dir.html/2022.html

 

Nothing scheduled for November 1st.

 

Edited October 28, 2022 by Sofia

[Shawnster]

8 hours ago, jrnievas said:

What if at that event, many leaders from the United Nations were also invited or joined?  😬

I see what you are trying to say and I don't think it would be necessary to invite "leaders" from the UN.  Your conclusion would be reached by inviting any representative from the various nations.  All the countries of the world (with a couple of exceptions) are members of the UN, so, by inviting a representative from any country is the same as inviting a UN member. 

 

The United Nations does not have leaders.  Each country sends an ambassador to the United Nations.  Further, a countries top leaders address the UN on occasion. 

 

I think to reach the goal or purpose you are thinking about all that needs to happen is invite representatives from the majority of the countries. 

[Sofia]

On 10/19/2022 at 2:21 PM, jayrtom said:

It's interesting that I just heard from the German Bethel about Daniel 11:42,43. 

Where it says on ver 42, "...And he will keep thrusting out his hand against the lands..." Lands possibily means that Russia will increase its war incursions to other countries. Based on that assumption, the organization is mounting a plan/structure to welcome refugees from al over Europe

Based on this last #7 GB Update... if I was Ukrainian and able to flee, I would so. Since 26,000 had fleed.... and about 130,000 were there... still a lot can come out if are willing and if they can.

Not mentioning Russian brothers too and others in other parts of the Earth where are declared conflicts.

[Sofia]

When it´s not USA... it´s UK to be blamed. anglo-american power - KOTS

Daniel Prophecy in fullfillment:

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-british-navy-personnel-blew-up-nord-stream-gas-pipelines-2022-10-29/

[GeordieGirl]

Ukraine war: Russia halts grain deal after 'massive' Black Sea Fleet attack

 

Russia has announced it is suspending its involvement in the internationally-brokered deal that allows Ukraine to export grain from its Black Sea ports.

It comes after Russia accused Ukraine of a "massive" drone attack on the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol, Crimea.

 

Without providing evidence, Russia also accused British troops of being involved in Saturday's attack.

 

It said the move was "in connection with the actions of the Ukrainian armed forces, which were led by British specialists" and that these actions "were directed... against Russian ships that ensured the functioning of the said humanitarian corridor".

 

Mr Zelensky said a strong international response was needed from both the UN and the world's twenty largest economies.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63439760