Peace and Security, Great Tribulation, Armageddon

[Dolce vita]

3 minutes ago, Ahuvah said:

I've taken my falsies out ... it's grinding against my gums you hear ... nothing more. I do have tough gums though. 

 

Oh and please pass on to Tortuga and Greg that I'm quiet. 

We will😂

[Dolce vita]

The French President appeared on TV tonight to speak to the French people: a very solemn and serious talk.

He said that the hybrid war had already begun (we've known this for a while) and that Russia would not stop at Ukraine. The peace and security of the old continent are threatened.

The country will enter a war economy to face the Russian threat. Europe no longer seems to trust the American President when it comes to acting as an ally. Europe will therefore arm itself as it has never done before. 

 

The French have been called upon to support this war economy effort in the face of the threat, the patriotic fiber has been tickled. We do not yet know what form this support will take, we will see that in the coming weeks. 

 

Personally, I didn't like what I heard.

Let's wait and see.

 

 

[johnnyjw01]

So many things always happen that every time I don’t understand whether the situation is really serious or just a passing moment

[jeje]

Reading Daniel, the king of the north doesn't seem to want to stop until his end, so the threat scenario seems serious

[New World Explorer]

Seeing the “chaos” on the world’s scene it actually encourages me that Jehovah is ready to step in. I have never expected to easily “slide” into a New World without any problems. There are major problems in the world like Gaza, Iran and War in Ukraine, plus one part of KOTS  is acting unpredictably. I think we are closer to Rev 17:17 than we think…. 🤔 

[Ahuvah]

Tortuga!!! 

You need to close thy mouth, too many flies fly in otherwise! I know, you'll never believe I'm quiet or demure.

 👇 

 

[Ahuvah]

22 minutes ago, johnnyjw01 said:

So many things always happen that every time I don’t understand whether the situation is really serious or just a passing moment

That's where we wait until we see something more definitive. Right now, they are too divided for Rev 17:17 to be fulfilled,  however, ironically, this could be the very situation Jehovah can quickly flip too. 

Choccy Almond anyone? Oops I mean just an almond ... I've sucked all the chocolate off.

[feebee]

6 hours ago, Tortuga said:

I used to wonder if Jehovah's date was a floating date based on world conditions. In other words, he would act when things got bad enough, but that would make the date flexible, arbitrary, dependent on other factors. However, since Jehovah can control every factor if he chooses and can foresee and make the future if he chooses, it's reasonable that he has set a firm date and not a general time period or set of conditions before he acts. Such as Oct 1st 2029, 2000 years after Jesus' baptism...

I like this article in the February 2024 WT QFR:

 

"So one reason why Jehovah can foretell the future is that he has the power to make things happen. He does not need to fast-forward, so to speak, to see what the future will bring - as if all future events have already happened in some form and Jehovah merely reviews them in advance. Rather, Jehovah can decide that something will happen at a specific time and then cause it to happen when that time arrives." 

 

So even if things seem like they're going the wrong way (from a human viewpoint), it's all under control 😀

[Dustparticle]

18 minutes ago, Ahuvah said:

I've sucked all the chocolate off.

  

 I think that is my job sis. Unemployment line here I come.

[New World Explorer]

Australia and New Zealand are currently dominating discussions about donuts and chocolate, if we somehow get Greenland we could float Danish pastries as well... that would be MEGA fun! LOL 🤣  

Edited Wednesday at 10:30 PM by New World Explorer

[Ahuvah]

Just now, New World Explorer said:

Australia and New Zealand are currently dominating discussions about donuts and chocolate, if we somehow get Greenland we could float Danish pastries as well... LOL 🤣  

The turtle did have popcorn. GREEN Danish pastries.

[Ahuvah]

The other Interesting thing is, about US wanting Canada as the 51st state, is that they would be stealing from King Charles, as its part of the Commonwealth... so theyd be putting the Anglo-American relationship in a huge strain.

[New World Explorer]

3 minutes ago, Ahuvah said:

The other Interesting thing is, about US wanting Canada as the 51st state, is that they would be stealing from King Charles, as its part of the Commonwealth... so theyd be putting the Anglo-American relationship in a huge strain.

Canada is part of NATO and suppose to be ally of USA, so statements like this are rising eyebrows everywhere... more  and more voices in Europe and even in Australia are questioning reliability of US as a partner. As God's people we stay neutral.. but people in the world are shaken to the ground. 

[Ahuvah]

3 minutes ago, New World Explorer said:

Canada is part of NATO and suppose to be ally of USA, so statements like this are rising eyebrows everywhere... more  and more voices in Europe and even in Australia are questioning reliability of US as a partner. As God's people we stay neutral.. but people in the world are shaken to the ground. 

Yes they are. Even if this dies down, it's left some very shaky ground.

[feebee]

2 hours ago, Dolce vita said:

The French President appeared on TV tonight to speak to the French people: a very solemn and serious talk.

He said that the hybrid war had already begun (we've known this for a while) and that Russia would not stop at Ukraine. The peace and security of the old continent are threatened.

The country will enter a war economy to face the Russian threat. Europe no longer seems to trust the American President when it comes to acting as an ally. Europe will therefore arm itself as it has never done before. 

 

The French have been called upon to support this war economy effort in the face of the threat, the patriotic fiber has been tickled. We do not yet know what form this support will take, we will see that in the coming weeks. 

 

Personally, I didn't like what I heard.

Let's wait and see.

 

 

We've been warned we will face persecution. Neutrality is more important than ever. 

[Dolce vita]

10 minutes ago, feebee said:

We've been warned we will face persecution. Neutrality is more important than ever. 

Yes, that is exactly where it will soon be played out. We must prepare ourselves seriously for it. That is what was said to our elders who have attended their school. Apparently we are dragging our feet a little, in France, concerning the preparation for what is going to happen, we are too good Gauls. Don't ask me what that means, I don't know, I'm not Gaulish😏

[Ahuvah]

14 minutes ago, Dolce vita said:

Yes, that is exactly where it will soon be played out. We must prepare ourselves seriously for it. That is what was said to our elders who have attended their school. Apparently we are dragging our feet a little, in France, concerning the preparation for what is going to happen, we are too good Gauls. Don't ask me what that means, I don't know, I'm not Gaulish😏

We are too soft, too used to luxuries, we are too unwilling to make lifestyle changes, we are not used to hard times. (A generalization of course)  

It's a historic description at one point by Julius Ceasar to the Gaul's who lived among them ... they got too soft.

Edited Thursday at 12:43 AM by Ahuvah

[Richie]

26 minutes ago, feebee said:

would not stop at Ukraine. The peace and security of the old continent are threatened.

The country will enter a war economy to face the Russian threat. Europe no longer seems to trust the American President when it comes to acting as an ally. Europe will therefore arm itself as it has never done before. 

It shows that all expectations are currently fulfilling.... EU will reinforce NATO more in order to protect their backyards and interest. 

[Ahuvah]

I think, when we sail on an ocean or sea, we are aware of the potential agitation that can form, but you get many peaceful calm spots, that is not now. Agitation is everywhere you turn. I pray that those lost to Jehovah see and feel this, and know their way home.

[pnutts]

Sucked all the chocolate off!!!

 

That is really old, I heard that one in late 90s.

[Ahuvah]

1 hour ago, pnutts said:

Sucked all the chocolate off!!!

 

That is really old, I heard that one in late 90s.

Me too. Just fitted well with the picture I was portraying.  

[ChrisW]

11 hours ago, Ahuvah said:

I think, when we sail on an ocean or sea, we are aware of the potential agitation that can form, but you get many peaceful calm spots, that is not now. Agitation is everywhere you turn. I pray that those lost to Jehovah see and feel this, and know their way home.

I'm praying that also sis.  My son being one of the lost. 

[Exter]

11 minutes ago, ChrisW said:

My son being one of th

I am on the same situation.

[Timl1980]

I found it interesting in our watchtower article this week where that sister prayed and then defended her faith after her co-worker had gotten up there and degraded Jehovah's people right before it was her turn. 

 

Back in the years when I was still disfellowshipped, or removed, I spoke to many people in the same situation as I was in that regard. One thing stuck out to me the most, no matter how much they hated the witnesses or the witnesses teachings, we all shared fond memories of the truth and some of the people in the truth. 

 

Until her comment in that paragraph, I had forgotten all about an experience I had while in prison. 

 

About four or five of us used to meet together all the time and discuss the Jehovah's witnesses and their "faulty" beliefs. This is back when I was reading any and all apostate literature I could get my hands on to try to prove the witnesses wrong. 

 

I remember it was summer time and we were all sitting around a picnic table out in the prison yard. Groups of other inmates walked by us in a steady stream because there was a walking path around the perimeter of the prison yard, one lap was about a half a mile and guys used to walk jog or run laps while the yard was open. 

 

I remember a couple of guys walking up to us after we had been talking for about a half hour, and one of them made a comment that he had been overhearing parts of our conversation and he thought we were a bunch of sore losers. 

 

He said while he didn't know much about the witnesses, he had never seen any Catholics or Protestants or Muslims or any other religion for that matter sitting around in groups and whining about how mistreated they had been while they were a part of the religion. 

 

All of us knew this guy, we had all talked to him on different occasions because he worked in the law library, which is a pretty high rated job in prison. 

 

The end of the conversation by saying that, on one occasion or another, he had hurt each of us say good things about our time as a Jehovah's witness, even if it was only the gatherings that we had attended and the food we had eaten. 

 

He also said that while we were wasting our time sitting there brooding over a few points of contention that we had with our former faith, none of our meetings as a group had made us better people. He said if we put that much time and effort into going to the law library and looking at case law, we might have a chance of getting our cases overturned, it was his way of making a joke. He was basically saying that we had a better chance of getting our case over turned then we did affecting any real change in a religion that we were mad at but no longer a part of. 

 

Obviously none of us appreciated his input, but we didn't say much because his job was highly prized among the inmates, we all needed him at one time or another. 

 

So I was just thinking about that experience in light of that sister's experience in the watchtower study this week, and in light of those who have chosen to leave Jehovah. 

 

Jehovah fully understands and intimately knows why each one of his sheep left the flock. Some might never choose to come back, but if there's one thing I've learned since my return to the truth, it's that if even the tiniest trace of goodness exists in a person, Jehovah can create a situation that can jump start that person's spiritual life once again. 

 

I don't think there's one human alive that can fully understand the scope of Jehovah's love for such people, and I really don't think that any human can fully understand how things will play out once peace and security is announced, and the events that are to follow start to unfold. 

 

I really believe that there will be quite a few extraordinarily grateful people who survive into the new system.

[ChrisW]

15 minutes ago, Timl1980 said:

I found it interesting in our watchtower article this week where that sister prayed and then defended her faith after her co-worker had gotten up there and degraded Jehovah's people right before it was her turn. 

 

Back in the years when I was still disfellowshipped, or removed, I spoke to many people in the same situation as I was in that regard. One thing stuck out to me the most, no matter how much they hated the witnesses or the witnesses teachings, we all shared fond memories of the truth and some of the people in the truth. 

 

Until her comment in that paragraph, I had forgotten all about an experience I had while in prison. 

 

About four or five of us used to meet together all the time and discuss the Jehovah's witnesses and their "faulty" beliefs. This is back when I was reading any and all apostate literature I could get my hands on to try to prove the witnesses wrong. 

 

I remember it was summer time and we were all sitting around a picnic table out in the prison yard. Groups of other inmates walked by us in a steady stream because there was a walking path around the perimeter of the prison yard, one lap was about a half a mile and guys used to walk jog or run laps while the yard was open. 

 

I remember a couple of guys walking up to us after we had been talking for about a half hour, and one of them made a comment that he had been overhearing parts of our conversation and he thought we were a bunch of sore losers. 

 

He said while he didn't know much about the witnesses, he had never seen any Catholics or Protestants or Muslims or any other religion for that matter sitting around in groups and whining about how mistreated they had been while they were a part of the religion. 

 

All of us knew this guy, we had all talked to him on different occasions because he worked in the law library, which is a pretty high rated job in prison. 

 

The end of the conversation by saying that, on one occasion or another, he had hurt each of us say good things about our time as a Jehovah's witness, even if it was only the gatherings that we had attended and the food we had eaten. 

 

He also said that while we were wasting our time sitting there brooding over a few points of contention that we had with our former faith, none of our meetings as a group had made us better people. He said if we put that much time and effort into going to the law library and looking at case law, we might have a chance of getting our cases overturned, it was his way of making a joke. He was basically saying that we had a better chance of getting our case over turned then we did affecting any real change in a religion that we were mad at but no longer a part of. 

 

Obviously none of us appreciated his input, but we didn't say much because his job was highly prized among the inmates, we all needed him at one time or another. 

 

So I was just thinking about that experience in light of that sister's experience in the watchtower study this week, and in light of those who have chosen to leave Jehovah. 

 

Jehovah fully understands and intimately knows why each one of his sheep left the flock. Some might never choose to come back, but if there's one thing I've learned since my return to the truth, it's that if even the tiniest trace of goodness exists in a person, Jehovah can create a situation that can jump start that person's spiritual life once again. 

 

I don't think there's one human alive that can fully understand the scope of Jehovah's love for such people, and I really don't think that any human can fully understand how things will play out once peace and security is announced, and the events that are to follow start to unfold. 

 

I really believe that there will be quite a few extraordinarily grateful people who survive into the new system.

I needed to hear this.  Thank you so much. 🙂💚