US Election Outcome

[LeolaRootStew]

1 minute ago, Ahuvah said:

He has nothing to do with the cry of peace and security though. Even if both president's go down different routes, they both would have met Jehovah at the same point. (IF it happens in this presidency)

 

Sitting here in NZ ... Trump vs Harris has no bearing on play out of prophecy.  They remain a dual world power with UK until Jehovah says they aren't.

 

 

We're theorizing about how it will play out, not if it will happen. Trump could play a pivotal role as King of the South. We'll see.

[Ahuvah]

3 minutes ago, LeolaRootStew said:

We're theorizing about how it will play out, not if it will happen. Trump could play a pivotal role as King of the South. We'll see.

Thanks for trying to clarify. Appreciated. 

[chuck83]

1 hour ago, LeolaRootStew said:

That leads me to the next point. He's also a heavy promoter of crypto-currency, which sounds like a great mark of the beast (no one can buy or sell without the mark), and a great "neutral" currency that could be used by the UN, thus making the "mark" a worldwide phenomenon. Imagine if a nation wasn't allowed to conduct trade unless they used the mark, crypto-currency. 

 

So this is one of the things Satan used on me when I was inactive. I got into crypto in early 2017. The first crypto I made money on was XRP. I turned $66 in XRP to $968ish dollars towards the end of the 2017 bullrun. So believe me, the adrenaline rush and the touch of greed hit so when the bear market hit, believe when I say, "I bought the dip." Well during 2017-2021, I learned about drain the swamp, I learned about WEF in Davos and WHO and one world government, one world economy, leveling the playing field, etc during Covid. What the UN did in September I know was coming because it was in crypto news all the time. I learned how XRP/crypto could replace SWIFT and eliminate the settling time requirements. Google the company Ripple, XRP, and Moneygram/Western Union and how it all went down hill when the US S.E.C sued Ripple and its execs. This was the premise.

 

Most people don't understand that we're sending nothing but money IOU's almost all of the time because SWIFT (from the 1970s) is almost like the backbone of cross border payments and other things. Each country has to hold USD and much as USD has to hold that currency. If you understand forex things like USD/GBP or USD/JPY make sense. The process is slow. Crypto/XRP/XLM... super fast and the ledgers are public. No lying.

 

Anyway, I didn't believe any of what they were preaching though and the more and more the one world government came up the more it detracted me. It got to the point with XRP where everyone was believing riddles and weird cryptic videos. Drain the swamp, qAnon, and other weirdness.

Crypto alone sent me down a rabbit hole of getting into forex, stocks, real estate, etc., I learned how to day trade on the 1min charts. I learned how to make money which ultimately led to greed. But it led to feeling like the end was far off and I needed a retirement because I was drying in this world. It also felt like everything was a scam. I saw my desires skyrocket as I got money and wanted to be like some of the YouTubers I watched.  But I also saw the comments from viewers that claimed to lose their life savings because they bought when everyone said it was hot and I bought when everyone said it was garbage. My cash out was their money.

 

By the end of my crypto journey Feb 2022, I let go of my paying Youtube channel, affiliates or sponsors and all investments I had. The only stuff I have left is what's staked until 2035. I no longer have my crypto wallets and private keys. While I'm not saying those things are wrong. Do you booboo. I had to simplify my life because I wasn't right and needed to get back to Jehovah.

 

Edit

BTW, if nobody was paying attention Bitcoin did hit ATH of $75k. Most of the worldly people I knew traded on the very decision and made a lot of money today. If they leveraged... greed will consume you.

Edited November 7 by chuck83

[Tortuga]

49 minutes ago, LeolaRootStew said:

We speculate all the time about how world conditions will lead to the cry of peace and security or the nations giving power to the UN. Now that Trump has been declared president, we can have theories based on what we think he would do, which would be different from a Harris presidency. 

Everyone needs a hobby. Have fun!

[Ostria]

2 minutes ago, chuck83 said:

So

 

Ahhhhh, forex, crypto.....my playing ground. NGL I bought a bunch of meme coins (Doge, Shib, elon) back in 2021 and kinda just sitting on them. I accidently bought 2 billion safemoon for $50 when it came out, turns out that wallet possibly hit close to a mill when they did a rug pull on it....not a happy person because i deleted the wallet when it didnt do anything for a month XD (I cry on the inside).

 

Market investments are one of those things that if someone isn't smart with, they will be stupid and put EVERYTHING in it, TONS of people took out crazy loans and some even lost their house during the DOGE surge in 2020. I've lost money in it, i've gained money in it. NGL currently doing some forex trading but i made myself some rules. I'll put in trades on Sunday, and i dont touch them or do any more trades that whole week. I dont over wage (Though the company i do it with wont let me get crazy anyway) so i don't get greedy. Greed will destroy you when it comes to day trading. Been doing it on and off since 2014. Do i think it's the mark of the beast? No, Crypto has been around since the early 2000s and most people has at least dabbled in it once or twice.

 

Can people consider this a form of gambling? Of course, however depending on how you do it (If you do it as an investment), it's no different than buying a house and selling the house at a higher/lower price later on in life.

[feebee]

41 minutes ago, LeolaRootStew said:

We're theorizing about how it will play out, not if it will happen. Trump could play a pivotal role as King of the South. We'll see.

The "king of the south" isn't a person. The Anglo-American alliance has been the king of the south throughout the last days. Who's president of one part of that alliance has no bearing on Jehovah's timetable. 

[chuck83]

8 minutes ago, Ostria said:

Can people consider this a form of gambling? Of course, however depending on how you do it (If you do it as an investment), it's no different than buying a house and selling the house at a higher/lower price later on in life.

 

Hey like I said, do you. I don't care. I still look at crypto and read crypto news. Just because it still interests me to a degree. If I had held my Shiba Inu back in 2021, I think I wouldn't be talking on this forum. Back in February 2021, I bought 13 billion,  it was something like $225 I spent. One day it was like a Thursday or Friday my worker called me and was like bro CHECK YOUR SHIBA. It was at $16k. But that next pump that night. I was at $86k. By the next morning it was $30k and I cashed out. Had I waited the next wave. I would've had over $1.1 million dollars. 

 

I used to trade leverage on ByBit all the time. The greed was fierce once I learned. So I know a lot of people became millionaires today easy. Easy just on the leveraged volatility. But regardless, I know what it did to me. It told me I needed money because the system wasn't ending any time soon and I was going to die before it comes. And I know that's simply not right.

Edited November 7 by chuck83

[Brandon]

1 minute ago, chuck83 said:

If I had held my Shiba Inu back in 2021, I think I wouldn't be talking on this forum

the heck is that 😂

[chuck83]

11 minutes ago, Brandon said:

the heck is that 😂

It went from the a token that literally wasn't listed on any market cap site to now being the 14th token on the site under Doge. Shiba Inu is the dog on the Doge Coin. But it was just sorta like a scam no utility coin like NFTs, like a meme crypto, the GameStop. Doge made it popular. Elon Musk made Doge popular so by extension a lot of people made money.

 

The sad thing is Doge was always a joke coin even when I got into crypto. People just held it to be cool. Well, it has no utility meaning it's not really useful. Well Elon Musk made it useful by accepting it as payment. Again, a lot of people made money and any "dog coin" did also. Shiba Inu, Kishu Inu, etc etc. it got real stupid and scammy. So the people that had it before 2017 made a lot of money. When Doge was popular and Elon Musk was being Elon Musk people lost a lot of money buying the top. Which you never do. You don't buy when the news says buy. You buy when the news says don't buy and it's failing.

 

Edit

The real dog.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiba_Inu

Edited November 7 by chuck83

[Ahuvah]

16 minutes ago, feebee said:

The "king of the south" isn't a person. The Anglo-American alliance has been the king of the south throughout the last days. Who's president of one part of that alliance has no bearing on Jehovah's timetable. 

Beautifully said. KoN and KoS are entities, which are the same Beast no matter who is president. It's really really important to keep on Jehovahs way of thinking. 

Lovely post.

 

NB: King of South or North are not a stand alone entity of one government, their allies also make each entity what they are.

 

Edited November 7 by Ahuvah

[computerwiz]

43 minutes ago, chuck83 said:

Crypto alone sent me down a rabbit hole of getting into forex, stocks, real estate, etc., I learned how to day trade on the 1min charts. I learned how to make money which ultimately led to greed.

 

Thankfully I don't have enough free time to get to that point. I'm in as much as I'm gonna get, and I play with some grid bots here and there to feel like I still have some active involvement in trading. 

[chuck83]

23 minutes ago, computerwiz said:

 

Thankfully I don't have enough free time to get to that point. I'm in as much as I'm gonna get, and I play with some grid bots here and there to feel like I still have some active involvement in trading. 

 

Brother, do you! I can still talk crypto. I used 3Commas so much that I got sponsored by them on Youtube. The signups alone paid well. I had FUN! I learned so much. It was fun. Imperfect my still loves the feeling of ByBit leverage. The rush. Wow. Or in Forex during Mr.T era when literally none of the typical news strategies worked because every time he opened his mouth the USD index went everywhere and almost ruining every USD pair. And essentially people are going back to Mr.T era forex. I'm glad I'm spending time in the ministry in my spare time now.

 

To be honest I'm staked in HEX until 2035. I bought into that. It's locked. I got into PulseChain/PulseX by the same developer. I had ASICS (Kadena mostly) miners, I had the Helium miner, etc all that just chasing leaves in the wind. 

 

All the influencers I loved like "AJ" with the "card tricks". I wanted to be like him because he seemed "modest" because someone like "GS" was way out of range because he's real estate. "AJ" promoted FTX and now look? So glad I left when I did. Paid attention for my own come back.

 

Edited November 7 by chuck83

[Anthony]

The positive development in this situation is that there is a chance for doors to be open to lead people to the kingdom. In my travels today I came across a lot of people that are visibly disturbed by the fact that the country elected this man in spite of all that has happened. They are disturbed from a moral perspective. Honesthearted ones will take comfort in hope in knowing that Jesus will take over rulership very soon. This may move them to kiss the son! 

[Tortuga]

Our street corners are still littered with campaign signs. There should be a law that the votes are recounted a week later, and 10 votes are deducted for every sign that is still up...

[computerwiz]

1 hour ago, chuck83 said:

To be honest I'm staked in HEX until 2035

 

The big words "THIS IS NOT A SCAM" on their website didn't turn you away from that one? 

 

I heard 3Commas had good bots but I ended up on Pionex. Cheaper deal there. 

 

I got out of FTX 2 weeks before it tanked (I think it was 2 weeks). Posted a warning in my discord to everyone. 

 

 

I was very up-to-date with everything going on in crypto. Was.

 

Now that most of my funds are in Ledger, Trezor, and MetaMask wallets, I don't look at crypto news that much. Never did a YouTube channel or any sponsorships, but I spent a good bit of time in discord communities...enough to make really good calls. But my calls would play out over weeks. The one time I played with leverage I lost my marbles so I closed that door.   Long-term only for me!

 

End of 2025 should be nice for crypto...

 

Anyways, probably should stop hijacking this topic. 

[Ostria]

1 hour ago, Tortuga said:

Our street corners are still littered with campaign signs. 

 

 

There are so many signs everywhere, i accidently voted for a realator 😩

 

(This was a joke i saw a few times on facebook, saw you mention signs, thought it might get a chuckle)

[Dustparticle]

4 hours ago, LeolaRootStew said:

but maybe this is the last President of the USA!

 I have been hearing this since Bush Jr.

[Dages]

2 hours ago, Dustparticle said:

 I have been hearing this since Bush Jr.

One day it will be true

[Ysaias]

The line was lit in 1914 and it's almost reaching its end.

 

Daniel 8:23 “And in the final part of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to a completion,* a fierce-looking king who understands ambiguous sayings* will stand up. 24 His power will become great, but not through his own power. He will bring ruin in an extraordinary way,* and he will be successful and act effectively. He will bring mighty ones to ruin, also the people made up of the holy ones.+ 25 And by his cunning he will use deception to succeed; and in his heart he will exalt himself; and during a time of security* he will bring many to ruin. He will even stand up against the Prince of princes, but he will be broken without human hand.

 

it-2 p. 1103

Another feature associated with “the time of the end” is the standing up of “a king fierce in countenance” that would range himself against “the Prince of princes,” finally to be broken or destroyed. This “king” was to stand up in the final part of the kingdoms that sprang from the four parts into which the Grecian Empire was to be divided. (Da 8:8-25) Since “the king of the north” and “the king of the south” came from the same source, it logically follows that the “king fierce in countenance” corresponds to one of these ‘kings’ in his “time of the end.”

 

dp p. 173

18 By 1763 the British Empire had defeated her powerful rivals, Spain and France. From then on she demonstrated herself to be the mistress of the seas and the seventh world power of Bible prophecy. Even after the 13 American colonies broke away from Britain in 1776 to establish the United States of America, the British Empire grew to embrace a quarter of the earth’s surface and a quarter of its population. The seventh world power gained still greater strength when the United States of America collaborated with Britain to form the Anglo-American dual world power. Economically and militarily, this power had indeed become “a king fierce in countenance.” The small horn that became a fierce political power in the “time of the end,” then, is the Anglo-American World Power.

 

One of these days, the FDS will give more clarity to Daniel 8 prophecy.

[Ysaias]

9 hours ago, feebee said:

The "king of the south" isn't a person. The Anglo-American alliance has been the king of the south throughout the last days. Who's president of one part of that alliance has no bearing on Jehovah's timetable. 

Yes, and No.

 

Daniel 11:3 "a mighty king", Alexander The Great.

Daniel 11:5 the first "king of the south", Ptolemy I; the first "king of the north", Seleucus I Nicator.

Daniel 11:6 Antiochus II (KOTN); Ptolemy II (KOTS), his "daughter", Berenice.

Daniel 11:7-9 Seleucus II (N); Ptolemy III (S)

Daniel 11:10-12 Antiochus III (N); Ptolemy IV (S)

Daniel 11:13-19 Antiochus III (N), the "daughter of women", Cleopatra; Ptolemy V (S).

And so on...

Daniel 11:20 "an exactor", Augustus

Daniel 11:21 "a despised one", Tiberius

 

So, before "the time of the end" the kings are mostly identified as individuals, the rulers of the nation at the time, since the monarch dictated the course of actions.

"At the time appointed" (Da 11:29), or during "the time of the end", the FDS identifies the KOTS and the KOTN as nations or coalitions. But in the end, every coalition does not have a hive mind, but a master mind, a head, a leader.

 

Anyway, no matter who the "lead actors" are, they all will play Jehovah's 'script' and the act will soon come to the proper end.

 

 

[Shawnster]

50 minutes ago, Ysaias said:

Yes, and No.

I think some of this is no longer our current understanding. 

 

I think.  It's hard to tell since you are referencing kings in the BCE era.  I could be mistaken and you correct. 

 

 

*** w20 May p. 3 “The King of the North” in the Time of the End ***
b For the reason stated here, it no longer seems appropriate to list Roman Emperor Aurelian (270-275 C.E.) as a “king of the north” or Queen Zenobia (267-272 C.E.) as a “king of the south.” This updates what was published in chapters 13 and 14 of the book Pay Attention to Daniel’s Prophecy!
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2020400&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=40

Edited November 7 by Shawnster

[Ysaias]

18 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

I think some of this is no longer our current understanding. 

 

I think.  It's hard to tell since you are referencing kings in the BCE era.  I could be mistaken and you correct. 

 

 

*** w20 May p. 3 “The King of the North” in the Time of the End ***
b For the reason stated here, it no longer seems appropriate to list Roman Emperor Aurelian (270-275 C.E.) as a “king of the north” or Queen Zenobia (267-272 C.E.) as a “king of the south.” This updates what was published in chapters 13 and 14 of the book Pay Attention to Daniel’s Prophecy!
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2020400&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=40

As paragraph 3 of the article you cited says, the new understanding is about Daniel 11:25 onwards. Verses 25 and 26 were the ones that were before applied to Aurelian and Zenobia.

 

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2020400&par=8&srcid=share

3 With those points in mind, we will now examine Daniel 11:25-39. We will see who the king of the north and the king of the south were from 1870 to 1991, and we will see why it is reasonable for us to clarify our understanding of a portion of this prophecy.

[ChrisW]

Today I had a thought...It's just a thought so don't beat me up...LOL 

It seems like every regime has it's source of information that is setup by it's administration. Could Musk be so interested in being a part of Mr. T's administration his way of getting his foot in the door to be the regulated means of news that we will receive?  Filtered and produced by the government. You know how Mr. T hates the media.  

[Dages]

35 minutes ago, ChrisW said:

Filtered and produced by the government. You know how Mr. T hates the media.  

His whole point is exactly to avoid that. That was the point of buying Twitter.

[Pjdriver]

1 hour ago, ChrisW said:

Today I had a thought...It's just a thought so don't beat me up...LOL 

It seems like every regime has it's source of information that is setup by it's administration. Could Musk be so interested in being a part of Mr. T's administration his way of getting his foot in the door to be the regulated means of news that we will receive?  Filtered and produced by the government. You know how Mr. T hates the media.  

If you research it.....you’ll find it’s just the opposite. You can’t trust most of the media. This was in a recent Wt. Mag. They will lie with a smile on their face. 

 

The Most of the large Media companies are run by Trump’s enemies.  You can easily tell by listening to them. For example Disney (which owns ABC), Comcast (NBC), and Paramount Global (CBS). They all despise Trump....because he points out repeatedly what we already know,.....you cannot trust the Media.

 

Many of these corporation promote progressive agendas in their news coverage and entertainment content............ LBGQT and other immorality they want to normalize. 

Many of these very wealthy and powerful corporations are pushing all that garbage.....Trump cannot control them. There's this annoying little thing called the first amendment....freedom of speech and press.

 

Nevertheless, before Musk bought Twitter....the White House officials were pressuring their sympathetic followers working at twitter to take down certain post that could have a negative affect on their campaign. In effect, interfering in an election by suppressing freedom of speech. The loophole was that they are a private corporation and have the right to control it how they see fit, albeit considered unethical.