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I have found Claude Sonnet 3.5/2.7 excellent, most helpful.  The Project Knowledge Feature is not talked about very much, but is truly incredible.
Gemini 2.5 is excellent right out of the box.  
Local versions (running on MSTY) Microsoft Phi 3.5 / 4 is very good as a small model, Gemini 3 works well.  
With the local models, you do need a fairly good Nvidia CUDA enabled video card.  
What is everyone using?  What do you like to use it for?

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I’ve been using ChatGPT-4 (not locally hosted—just the regular version through OpenAI’s platform) and it’s been extremely helpful. I mainly use it for writing support—blog articles, spiritual reflections, and organizing Bible research. I also use it for public talk outlines, shepherding call notes, field service letters, and preparing ministry study materials.

 

One of the things I really appreciate is how programmable GPT is. I’ve set clear rules—like limiting all research to jw.org and wol.jw.org—and it consistently respects those limits. Everything it pulls up includes a direct link to the article, paragraph, or scripture reference, which saves a ton of time and ensures accuracy.

 

I’ve also used it for genealogy work, and sometimes just to help word things properly when I want to express humility or be more thoughtful in tone. It’s been especially helpful in learning my writing and teaching style over time—so when it presents ideas or phrasing, it often matches how I would naturally express things. Even my sense of humor shows through, which is a nice touch.

 

I’m not using local models or a CUDA setup—just the cloud-based version—but I enjoy hearing how others are using different tools. What models or approaches have you found most useful for ongoing research or writing?

 

That said, the key thing is to remember—it’s just a tool. It can assist you, but you still have to do the work. The thinking, the research, the prayerful effort—that’s still on us.

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Oh friends - there are so many good applications of AI.

This is the one that made our family laugh thr most.  (Chat GPT).

"Turn us into Muppets!" (Wouldn't make my wife and I into Kermit and Miss Piggy to her disappointment however.. (Big fans of Muppets Most Wanted)

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Bobby, I had an AMAZING time with AI and Trek.  I basically asked it to start me at the Academy, and then see me assigned to either DS9 or Voyager as a crew member.  Attended Academy and then joined Janeway on Voyager, got pulled into the Delta Quadrant and started the Caretaker episode.  Was amazing!  Biggest problems are context - that is - firstly, you need to (1) teach it what happens during that episode, (2) teach it / add to it's knowledge about Trek (if it doesn't know - but most models have that 'innately' without requiring too much context) then (3) give it the rules to roleplay the experience.  Gemini does that best - but even so has limits.  Flash is terrible at RP - you need Gemini Pro 2 or 2.5 for that.  
THAT led to me working on my own sci-fi (It's my own universe called "The Concordium") because of the potential, which lets me write it from scratch and I can do what I wish with it.  It is a lot of work to do though - and expensive to produce.

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Recently I discovered a useful feature of AI. I usually work with ChatGPT but I think any of them would do it.

 

You are thinking of a scripture but cannot find it because you don't remember the exact words. Or maybe it has changed in the new translation. You can ask ChatGPT explaining the gist of that scripture and it will find it for you.  For example, if you ask "Which scripture in the Bible says that Christians must not greet apostates" it will immediately identify you refer to 2 John 1:10-11. 

 

I find myself using it like that all the time.

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I've used ChatGPT before and am currently into CoPilot. I work for Microsoft AND the AI team, so I sorta have to. 😉

 

I've just started poking around with it in earnest this week. It's sort of amazing, the answers you get to questions you put in. I now have an entire document of good, kindly advice regarding the question I posed in our "Comfort" section.

 

Counsel by computer - FTW! :D    But I still appreciate human comments much more ❤️ 

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AI has been phenomenal with putting together talks & finding certain scriptures or literature, etc.  I'm hoping we will eventually have a branch-sponsored AI that bases everything only on our literature.  Doubt it will ever happen....but would be super cool.

 

I mean...there are JW Talk development GPTs right now.  So you can do this:

 

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Create a 10 minute talk based on this info:

 

What Can We Learn From the Ant? (10 min.)

We can learn valuable lessons from observing ants (Pr 6:6)

Despite having no ruler, ants instinctively work hard, cooperate, and prepare for the future (Pr 6:7, 8; it-1 115 ¶1-2)

Benefit from imitating the ant (Pr 6:9-11; w00 9/15 26 ¶3-4)

 

Results?

 

 

Spoiler

Here's a 10-minute (1,500-word) public talk titled “What Can We Learn From the Ant?” based on Proverbs 6:6-11 and accompanying insights from the publications of Jehovah’s Witnesses:


WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM THE ANT?
(10 minutes / 1,500 words)

Introduction: (Approx. 150 words)

Have you ever stopped to watch ants at work? These tiny creatures can teach us big lessons. Proverbs 6:6 invites us: “Go to the ant, you lazy one; Observe its ways and become wise.” What could possibly make an insect a source of wisdom for humans? The qualities ants exhibit—diligence, cooperation, foresight—are ones Jehovah wants us to imitate.

Today, we will look at three points:

  1. How ants provide a valuable example despite lacking oversight.

  2. The dangers of ignoring their example.

  3. The blessings of applying these lessons in our lives.

1. Ants Are Diligent and Farsighted Without Supervision (Proverbs 6:6-8) – 450 words

Let’s read Proverbs 6:7, 8: “Although it has no commander, officer, or ruler, it prepares its food in the summer, and it gathers its food supplies in the harvest.”

What is remarkable about this? Ants don’t wait for direction. They don’t need a boss hovering over them. Each ant instinctively plays its part to ensure the colony’s success. They work tirelessly during times of abundance to prepare for seasons of scarcity. Isn’t that a lesson we can take to heart?

Jehovah’s Witnesses have long emphasized the value of self-discipline and personal initiative, especially in spiritual matters. Like the ant, we do not need someone constantly reminding us to study, attend meetings, or participate in the ministry. We are encouraged to take ownership of our spiritual well-being.

Insight on the Scriptures notes that ants also work together in perfect coordination, which speaks to the value of cooperation and unity among Jehovah’s people. Each one has a role, just as we all have unique responsibilities in the congregation and our family life. Imagine how strong our congregations would be if every one of us acted like the ant—cooperating, preparing spiritually, and taking initiative.

Ants also prepare in advance. Spiritually, we too must prepare for challenges ahead. Watchtower articles have encouraged us to deepen our knowledge and faith now, before times of test come. Just as ants store food, we store up spiritual treasures by regularly reading God’s Word and applying it in our lives.

So, observing the ant should stir us to reflect: Are we spiritually proactive? Do we contribute diligently and unselfishly like the ant?

2. The Danger of Laziness and Delay (Proverbs 6:9-11) – 600 words

Let’s read Proverbs 6:9-11: “How long, you lazy one, will you lie there? When will you rise from your sleep? A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and your poverty will come like a bandit, and your neediness like an armed man.”

Here, Solomon shifts the focus to what happens when we ignore the example of the ant. Laziness is not just about physical inactivity—it can also apply to spiritual neglect. We might be physically active but spiritually asleep. What are some signs?

  • Skipping spiritual routines like Bible reading or meetings.

  • Postponing personal study.

  • Losing urgency in our ministry.

This is dangerous. Just as physical poverty results from neglecting work, spiritual poverty results from neglecting Jehovah. A spiritual “bandit,” such as negative influences, doubts, or discouragement, can overtake us when we are unprepared.

The Watchtower of September 15, 2000, pages 26-27, illustrates this. It compares the “little sleep” and “little slumber” to small compromises—like missing just one meeting, skipping a day of study, or reducing service time. Alone, these may not seem serious, but repeated often, they can lead to spiritual apathy.

Think of the consequences. If we don't “gather in the harvest,” as the ant does, when adversity strikes—whether trials, persecution, or personal crisis—we may not have the spiritual reserves to endure.

Ephesians 5:15-16 reminds us: “So keep strict watch that how you walk is not as unwise but as wise persons, making the best use of your time.” Jehovah’s timetable is moving forward. We don’t want to be found spiritually asleep.

Let’s ask ourselves honestly: Am I putting off spiritual goals? Have I become too relaxed in my routine? The good news is, it's never too late to wake up and act. Jehovah is patient and eager to help us re-engage.

3. The Blessings of Ant-Like Qualities in Our Lives (Proverbs 6:6; Philippians 4:9) – 450 words

Let’s revisit Proverbs 6:6: “Go to the ant, you lazy one; observe its ways and become wise.” That’s not just a call to work—it’s a call to gain wisdom. How does applying the ant’s example bless us?

First, it builds our relationship with Jehovah. When we work hard spiritually, we show Jehovah that we value his direction. He, in turn, strengthens us. Philippians 4:9 says: “The things you learned and accepted and heard and saw in connection with me, practice these, and the God of peace will be with you.”

Second, it brings joy. Hard work in Jehovah’s service yields joy like no other. Those who work diligently in the ministry or support others in the congregation often experience deep satisfaction. Proverbs 10:4 assures us that “the hand of the diligent one makes rich”—spiritually rich.

Third, it strengthens the congregation. Just as ants working together create a thriving colony, brothers and sisters who are active, positive, and united help the congregation thrive. Your spiritual activity can encourage others—your example might be the spark that re-ignites someone else’s zeal.

Finally, it prepares us for the future. Whether it’s surviving the Great Tribulation, supporting loved ones during trials, or facing our own personal tests of faith, our diligence today is our preparation for tomorrow.

Conclusion: (Approx. 150 words)

So, what can we learn from the ant? We’ve seen how this tiny creature teaches us:

  • Diligence and self-starting initiative,

  • The dangers of laziness and spiritual complacency,

  • And the blessings that come from spiritual preparedness.

Jehovah created the ant with such qualities, not just for nature’s balance, but to teach us valuable spiritual lessons. Will we observe and become wise?

Let us leave here resolved to be more like the ant—industrious, prepared, cooperative, and faithful. And as Galatians 6:9 encourages us, “Let us not give up in doing what is fine, for in due time we will reap if we do not tire out.”

 

 

I mean...WOW!!  :perplexed:

 

Of course....we need to develop talk-writing skills and not just rely on AI.  HOWEVER...if someone doesn't show for a part, look what you can do literally at the last minute!  👀  Or if you're overwhelmed with a lot of assignments and just need some help or inspiration.  :shrugs:

 

I know quite a few brothers whom I wish would get some help with developing their talks....  :whistling:

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31 minutes ago, computerwiz said:

I'm hoping we will eventually have a branch-sponsored AI that bases everything only on our literature.  Doubt it will ever happen....but would be super cool.

 

It's interesting to look at the list of computer Skills in your JWHub Profile the brothers are looking for :whistling:

 

Artificial Intelligence
 AI Libraries and frameworks
 AI/ML Algorithms
 Computer Vision
 Fine Tuning
 Foundation Models
 Generative AI
 Large Language Models (LLM)
 LM Orchestration
 Prompt Engineering
 Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG)
 Other


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CAUTION: The comments above may contain personal opinion, speculation, inaccurate information, sarcasm, wit, satire or humor, let the reader use discernment...:D

 

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35 minutes ago, computerwiz said:

Of course....we need to develop talk-writing skills and not just rely on AI.  HOWEVER...if someone doesn't show for a part, look what you can do literally at the last minute!  👀  Or if you're overwhelmed with a lot of assignments and just need some help or inspiration.  :shrugs:

(Lukish 12:11, 12) "When you have a meeting part or public talk, do not become anxious about how or what you will speak about or what you will say, for the ChatBot will teach you in that very hour the things you should say.”
 

CAUTION: The comments above may contain personal opinion, speculation, inaccurate information, sarcasm, wit, satire or humor, let the reader use discernment...:D

 

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I think there are cautions (as in - REAL CAUTIONS, as in, 'DON'T DO IT!') in using AI for any sort of spiritual application - though fun and work is a different matter.  For one thing, AI is the result of a 'makeup', plus training to keep it simple.  AI's have different 'personalities' to start with.  Chat GPT is a bit cold I feel, Claude is interested and engaged, curious.  Gemini can argue back, and can challenge you (but may or may not back down). 

Content pickup and recall is different from what we do.  It kind of works by "reading" a passage, but then dropping out some letters to save space. It can 'reconstruct' it - you hope, but it might not get it right.  The lower down (the more the model is quantized (compressed) the worse it becomes.  So a poor model will "recall" verses, but leave bits out, invent new verses, and because it can't say "I have no idea" be pushed into "hallucinating" data and standing by it's rubbish.  Even with 'RAG' and 'MCP' (special technical data retrieval methods where you force it to source data from specific sources or places) your still trusting the 'AI' to get it right in the interpretation and presentation phase.  

Training on scriptural matters varies greatly.  E.g., what does Psalm 83:18 say?  Gemma 3, Hermes 3/ Llama failed to recall the verse correctly.  Mistral Small on the other hand is an exceptional model, which stated "(KJV) It says: "That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." The Hebrew word Yĕhovah can be translated as LORD or Jehovah and occurs more than seven thousand times in the Old Testament."  
Despite that, models are notorious for getting it wrong spiritually - why?  Well, they are trained on what?  Material from JW.org? Of course not - and even when it is, you need to think what it took in alongside (compare 1 Cor 10:21).  An AI model synthesises material and tries to create a 'whole' out of competing and contending sources, with it's conclusions again 'modified' by it's output parameters which 'override' other matters.  So using it for any spiritual matter is inherently dangerous.  You might go, "Hey, prepare me a talk on the resurrection I've got this week, I want you to use three scriptures, and illustration and I want you to get everything from jw.org".  You've introduced several problems to yourself and the congregation.  First, the purpose of being on the school is to be trained to better serve Jehovah in the ministry.  With the AI doing the 'work' are you really allowing Jehovah's spirit to have a role in it's preparation?  Might be be asking Jehovah to bless the AI as it produces our talk for us instead? Second, it can 'colour' the way the talk is presented or prepared to in a way talk with a spiritual 'accent' - it may subtly fuse in odd distinctions that do not harmonise with truth.  Here's an example (albeit, just an observation) - FDS almost always uses the expression "passed away" to describe death.  Simply put, the expression brings to mind passed off the scene.  Worldly people use the expression "passed".  Why?  Because to them it means "passed on".  So what I am saying is that when we render a talk through AI, we are allowing it to shape how we present talks.  There is also no point 'preaching' or 'training' an AI by talking to it - even if using an online AI where your usage is being monitored and 'used for training' it is likely to simply be drowned out by the sea.  Don't try it.  More likely, you will just be exposing yourself to philosophical or apostate drivel it picked up along with our publications off some dodgy website.  Your much better off just calling up a bro and saying "Hey, got any ideas for my talk next week?" :D

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I will add one other note - ai can freely invent source material with REAL REFERENCES that are simply not what it says at all!  I have had it quote correctly referenced, supporting something I knew the organisation would NEVER say.  I check it - sure enough, it was WRONG.  It's not malicious - it comes back to the content retrieval method and it's innate structure.  It just can't recall things verbatim.
To illustrate, let's take that talk that we might have thought was wonderful and encouraging.  Is it really?

The Watchtower of September 15, 2000, pages 26-27, illustrates this. It compares the “little sleep” and “little slumber” to small compromises—like missing just one meeting, skipping a day of study, or reducing service time. 

Does it really say that?  No. "meeting" is not mentioned, nor is "reducing service time", nor is 'study'.  Ow.

It actually says (for the application of that verse) "While the lazy one is supine, poverty overtakes him with the speed of a bandit, and scarcity attacks him like an armed man. The fields of a sluggard quickly become full of weeds and nettles. (Proverbs 24:30, 31) His business enterprise suffers losses in no time. For how long would an employer tolerate an idler? And can a student who is too lazy to study expect to do well in school?"  

So - sounds nice, but a spiritual disaster - we will have spoken an untruth.  Ironically, the article (the real one) discusses honesty in the very next paragraph - "When he is exposed, the liar’s reputation is ruined instantly. Who will trust him again?"  I'm not denigrating AI - I love it - but for spiritual things?  Forget it. 

AI freely quotes all sorts of things - shepherd book references, watchtower articles, with the content 'sounding right' but being very wrong.  

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16 minutes ago, Jethro_E7 said:

I will add one other note - ai can freely invent source material with REAL REFERENCES that are simply not what it says at all!  I have had it quote correctly referenced, supporting something I knew the organisation would NEVER say.  I check it - sure enough, it was WRONG.  It's not malicious - it comes back to the content retrieval method and it's innate structure.  It just can't recall things verbatim.
To illustrate, let's take that talk that we might have thought was wonderful and encouraging.  Is it really?

The Watchtower of September 15, 2000, pages 26-27, illustrates this. It compares the “little sleep” and “little slumber” to small compromises—like missing just one meeting, skipping a day of study, or reducing service time. 

Does it really say that?  No. "meeting" is not mentioned, nor is "reducing service time", nor is 'study'.  Ow.

It actually says (for the application of that verse) "While the lazy one is supine, poverty overtakes him with the speed of a bandit, and scarcity attacks him like an armed man. The fields of a sluggard quickly become full of weeds and nettles. (Proverbs 24:30, 31) His business enterprise suffers losses in no time. For how long would an employer tolerate an idler? And can a student who is too lazy to study expect to do well in school?"  

So - sounds nice, but a spiritual disaster - we will have spoken an untruth.  Ironically, the article (the real one) discusses honesty in the very next paragraph - "When he is exposed, the liar’s reputation is ruined instantly. Who will trust him again?"  I'm not denigrating AI - I love it - but for spiritual things?  Forget it. 

AI freely quotes all sorts of things - shepherd book references, watchtower articles, with the content 'sounding right' but being very wrong.  

 

That's why you always have to check it for accuracy. I make it a point to do that if I actually use it. But this was just generated & posted. I didn't check anything here. 😬

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I have tested some, and I noticed that Gemini has many filters. Compared to Copilot and Deepseek, Gemini does not clearly conclude biblical teachings. It makes a point of emphasizing that we can believe in other things as well. I find this very strange, as if it were trained to be politically correct.

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