China experience...WOW

[Shawnster]

The FDS may want to "trim" jw.org for China...Also Chinese leaders have to OK it probably!

 

And the Chinese government can always change their mind. 

[Qapla]

Indeed the best thing is to check from within China. Then again it might depend on location since it takes time for the DNS servers to refresh. Here is an other one which might use different servers http://viewdns.info/

 

 

I tired with this test engine and got these results

 

Chinese firewall test results for jw.org

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Testing if hostname is DNS poisoned

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Expected value of DNS A records:

54.226.225.142

54.242.30.163

Location Lookup Result Status

Beijing 54.251.200.175 ... 54.251.202.199

Shenzen 54.251.200.175 ... 54.251.202.199

Inner Mongolia 54.251.200.175 ... 54.251.202.199

Heilongjiang Province 54.251.200.175 ... 54.251.202.199

Yunnan Province 54.251.200.175 ... 54.251.202.199

All servers were able to reach your site. This means that the hostname itself is accessible from within mainland China.

Testing if URL is blocked over HTTP(s)

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HTTP Response Status HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently

This URL appears to be accessible from mainland China.

 

So, Leslie, yes it would be nice if your son can check to see if he can reach the site.

Edited December 18, 2013 by Qapla

[SUNRAY]

And the Chinese government can always change their mind.

True, but what if the press breaks again?

[jayrtom]

I believe this story can be verified if someone with access to bethel can find out the maker of the press and with that information it's possible to verify if the company has really closed. If they advised the Chinese government to go to the JW's in Japan than probably there's no other client in China and that seems verifiable too...

In general, with such a great development as this press is, the client doesn't receive only the product but also all the knowledge-base necessary to deal with any problem or malfunction. Only on the event of the need to add functionality the company is called again... The experience shows that our brothers had that knowledge...

(but it is the general as my experience with installations on car manufacture tells me)

As much as I want to believe this it seems unlikely in my opinion...

But hey! Jehovah can make the impossible if it fits his purpose, so... ;)

[baby boys]

Don't know if this means anything found on List of websites block in China

 

2387 Jehovah's Witnesses jw.org www.jw.org Bible English Unknown to Unknown (no longer blocked)^[39][40] 2925 Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation nrk.no www.nrk.no News Norwegian 2011, May (or earlier) to 2012^[41] 3876 PBworks pbworks.com pbworks.com Sharing English 2011, January to 2012^[42] 4480 Sony Japan Sony.co.jp Sony.co.jp Corporation Japanese 2012, June 15–17 9551 SBS Radio(Chinese language service) radioaustralia.net.au/chinese http://www.sbs.com.au/chinese Media Chinese Unknown to present, November 2013^[43]

 

[baby boys]

I found that  "List of websites Blocked in China"  on the Wikipedia which shows a long list of sites block or unblocked.

Thank you.

[LeslieDean]

Travis reports from Shenzen, China no access. Reports error page. He is across the river from Hong Kong where we have a branch office. Facebook is always going 'down' or is on restriction in China. Travis has lived all over China (Shanghi, Beijing, Chung Daung) and now Shenzen since 2005. He said many times you will be watching TV and if a sensitive subject comes up on the news the tV signal is scrambled to keep the Chinese citizens from hearing what the world news is. He said he will keep checking.

[Poly Ester]

According to Wikipedia now it's unblocked

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[TJ]

I remember listening to a recording of an old talk by a Bethel member who was explaining the wonders of MEPS (Multilanguage Electronic Publishing System) which was invented by Bethelites and gives us the capability to publish literature in hundreds of languages. He mentioned that the Chinese government had expressed interest in acquiring the technology from us, but instead of payment, the brothers requested that our ministry work in China be legalized. The Chinese government turned down the offer at the time.

 

So I don't doubt the brothers are looking for opportunities to make such requests.

[rocket]

 

Click on to enlarge. Notice last line!!!!!!!!!!

 

However this is only one of four test sites that had this result. Two of the others had "Failed" results for jw.org , the fourth is in Chinese and I have no idea what it said.

Edited December 21, 2013 by lynn
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[ibcharlene]

This is wonderful news! It has to be so uplifting to our brothers there to be able to access "home"!

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[Astrid]

You can test and see if a site is censored in China: http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/

 

 

regards

Mk

 

 

this site still says "fail" ?

[trottigy]

I just heard from someone at the Hong Kong bethel that this story is not true.

Please don't pass it on.

Edited December 21, 2013 by trottigy

[stuagu]

thats dissappointing.

i wonder when i will learn to not get my hopes up... i suppose its because i so wanted it to be true.

:-(

[trottigy]

I wanted it too

[KindMan]

I just got this email from an elder and thought it is so worth sharing!

 

"We had Brother Petit give our talk today. He lives locally, but was a missionary

in Japan for years and one of his sons still serves at Bethel. He told us an interesting

experience/account that he just heard from his son. It was this:  You know our new

printing presses that print our magazines at that astronomical rate (like 200K an hour)

and are at the Japan, Canada and German branches, well the Chinese government has

one too. Theirs broke. They called the German company that made the press and found

out that the company had gone out of business and couldn't provide any technical support.

They suggested that the JWs in Japan had a printer and might be able to help. So, the

Chinese government called the Branch in Japan and 3 brothers went to China to lend a

hand. Of course, they knew what was wrong and fixed it. The Chinese government was

so impressed and grateful they said they wanted to

do

something for the brothers. The

brothers said they could legalize JW to organize freely in China. The Chinese government

said, of course, that it couldn't

do

that because by law the heads of all national organizations

had to be appointed by the communist party. BUT, they said, they would lift the ban on

JW.org

. WHAT?!?! Yes, now 

JW.ORG

 is legal in China. I instantly started crying and

wanted to break out clapping. How fantastic is that? 

  

I wonder who broke that press.. "

 

 

[KindMan]

That is great ... thanks for letting me know. I just thought it was such an inspiring story how Jehovah can cause anything to happen by the most innocuous route!

[Lance]

Please refer to the previous posts that this story is apparently NOT true .... (((

[Dustparticle]

 We all have to wait and see. Who know the preaching work might come through the back door in China and this might be through jw.org.

[Bluebell]

Sorry.....sorry....sorry....

 

The CO in N.Y. who sent us the story about China,

mailed my husband this, after we ask him to call the HQ:

 

 

"I must apologize for the erroneous information on JW.org and China I sent to you. I will be more careful in the future."

 

 

Also Circuit overseers are not immune against listen to hoax.

[trottigy]

No problem. It was fun thinking about the possibility. We are glad you are here

Trottigy

Edited December 22, 2013 by trottigy

[JudyO]

read what the email actually says:

 

"BUT, they said, they would lift the ban on JW.org."

 

 

so hopefully they keep their word!

Samira--it sounded so real, just like something Jehovah would and could do in these last days!!! We ALL wanted it to be true. Thanks for giving us the hope of this happening---even if the hope only lasted a short time. Again--THANK YOU for sharing it. Hey, miracles DO happen every once in a while.

[Bluebell]

on a German JW forum the same email appeared, but 

 

a sister ask the Brothers in Selters, Germany:

 

the brothers replied, that jw.org was never forbidden in China.

They also said that apostate spreading those emails, so that jw.org will be blocked as a result.

This is not what we want.

So please don't send those emails on and warn the person who sent them originally.

 

 

I wish I never had sent it in the first place   

[SUNRAY]

Samira ~ What about the China Firewall site..why does it say "failed"? Is it

just because in the Provinces listed there, there is no communication tower? That would explain

the other site checking out...as someone posted in a previous comment..

Edited December 23, 2013 by SUNRAY

[SUNRAY]

Samira ~ Thank you for keeping us updated...from reading this thread what I can learn is that no human

government can be depended on to help us make Jehovah's name and Kingdom known..only Jehovah and His

Kingdom can be depended on...where our work is banned, Jehovah opens another pathway!

No human government can stand in the way of Jehovah's Heavenly Organization!