The Mysterious Coronavirus Spreading Worldwide

[Hotteok]

2 minutes ago, BenJepthah said:

Medical opinion based solely upon my observations. It will remain but become like the seasonal flu. We will just get used to loosing people every year to it.

Thanks! Do you think then the way we do things, (Work from home, social distancing, meetings through zoom) will continue too, even after it has become a seasonal flu? 

[Shawnster]

7 hours ago, Tryin'SoHardToBeSpiritual said:

Thanks! Do you think then the way we do things, (Work from home, social distancing, meetings through zoom) will continue too, even after it has become a seasonal flu? 

No doubt some of the recent changes will be permanent. Work from home, for example, is going to become a more common option for the bank my wife works at.  This will save the bank money by no longer needing as much office space to hold all the employees. 

 

 

[ChocoBro]

27 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

No doubt some of the recent changes will be permanent. Work from home, for example, is going to become a more common option for the bank my wife works at.  This will save the bank money by no longer needing as much office space to hold all the employees. 

 

 

Which means bad news for any property owners or developers, transportation business and catering.

Edited June 6, 2020 by ChocoBro

[Dustparticle]

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Sometimes I can pick up things. What I see that we got a while to go back to the halls and going out to the ministry. I talk an elder last night and he see the same thing. Who knows about the next UN meeting in September and about P&S. About 125,O00 people is getting this virus daily and not going to stop over night too. We need to remain faithful.

[ChocoBro]

13 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

About 125,O00 people is getting this virus daily and not going to stop over night too. We need to remain faithful.

The dark figure is estimated at somewhere between factor 4 and factor 20 (groping in the dark, indeed)

 

And at the same time, the 125.000 people you mentioned "getting this virus" are not getting it per se, but tested positive for it. A lot of them did not even feel an itch in their throat.

 

The virus isn't at all that bad, but the media reports on it and people's perception of it is extremely sensitive. That is why we don't go out in service, that is why we continue with zoom meetings, is because we don't want to be in news reports about a supposed "superspreading" incident at a local church of Jehovah's Witnesses.

 

And another reason we are being very careful is that in some countries like in Europe, Japan, a large part of our brotherhood is of old age and therefore at a greater risk of developing more severe symptoms. 

[ChocoBro]

La Stampa: 

 

https://www.lastampa.it/esteri/2020/05/04/news/test-sul-sangue-effettuati-in-giappone-rivela-la-mortalita-da-coronavirus-e-di-gran-lunga-inferiore-all-influenza-1.38801430

 

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Kobe City General Medical Hospital study on a thousand blood samples: only 0,01% died of Covid. The prudence of scientists: do not let your guard down

TOKYO. The mortality of covid19 could be far lower than what scientists had previously believed. Even one in ten thousand. This is what emerges from a study conducted by Kobe City Medical Central General Hospital that collected 1.000 blood samples from patients who visited the hospital in late March and early April.

Patients with coronavirus symptoms were excluded from the sample. Of these thousand 33 people, or 3,3% tested positive for Covid19 antibodies.

If the analyzes were confirmed by further tests in other prefectures of Japan, the mortality of Covid19 would plummet to 0.01%, or even lower than the seasonal flu.

Can't confirm if the translation is correct. La Stampa is a reliable newspaper. Italians are fed up with the EU and with the Corona crisis and there is an explosive atmosphere building up in Europe slowly.

 

 

[Dustparticle]

1 hour ago, ChocoBro said:

The dark figure is estimated at somewhere between factor 4 and factor 20 (groping in the dark, indeed)

 

And at the same time, the 125.000 people you mentioned "getting this virus" are not getting it per se, but tested positive for it. A lot of them did not even feel an itch in their throat.

 

The virus isn't at all that bad, but the media reports on it and people's perception of it is extremely sensitive. That is why we don't go out in service, that is why we continue with zoom meetings, is because we don't want to be in news reports about a supposed "superspreading" incident at a local church of Jehovah's Witnesses.

 

And another reason we are being very careful is that in some countries like in Europe, Japan, a large part of our brotherhood is of old age and therefore at a greater risk of developing more severe symptoms. 

Believe me brother it is bad and now Latin American is getting hit hard. I hope I am wrong on this, I don't see no meetings at halls and house to house witnessing soon.

[ChocoBro]

36 minutes ago, Dustparticle said:

Believe me brother it is bad and now Latin American is getting hit hard. I hope I am wrong on this, I don't see no meetings at halls and house to house witnessing soon.

I saw a video from Sao Paolo where a woman walks through an entire makeshift Corona emergency ward, a huge, empty hall. A lot of conflicting information going around in the media, and this is about a lot of money and a lot of control and power and politics, so I don't know what to believe at the moment. The numbers are cooked here in Europe, so I believe they are cooked elsewhere, too. Time will tell.

 

Here is some interesting information on mRNA vaccines

 

 

 

[ChocoBro]

This one is also insightful

 

 

[AH173]

If your USA branch boe look at their secure log in they will note that there are 4 points that our chairman for today's weekend meeting were read. The branch wrote to boe to have the announcement today (weekend meeting) and at the next midweek meeting.

[BenJepthah]

13 hours ago, Tryin'SoHardToBeSpiritual said:

Thanks! Do you think then the way we do things, (Work from home, social distancing, meetings through zoom) will continue too, even after it has become a seasonal flu? 

Doubt it. We will all go back to normal but with a heavy new slice of poverty and people wearing masks .

[M.J.]

5 hours ago, ChocoBro said:

The dark figure is estimated at somewhere between factor 4 and factor 20 (groping in the dark, indeed)

 

And at the same time, the 125.000 people you mentioned "getting this virus" are not getting it per se, but tested positive for it. A lot of them did not even feel an itch in their throat.

 

The virus isn't at all that bad, but the media reports on it and people's perception of it is extremely sensitive. That is why we don't go out in service, that is why we continue with zoom meetings, is because we don't want to be in news reports about a supposed "superspreading" incident at a local church of Jehovah's Witnesses.

 

And another reason we are being very careful is that in some countries like in Europe, Japan, a large part of our brotherhood is of old age and therefore at a greater risk of developing more severe symptoms. 

None of your reasonings would explain why Bethel branch in US is still on complete lockdown. No one in or out.

[rocket]

I would say that the main reason why the Branch is in lockdown is because the Bible says to quarantine. The only people in or out of Branch facilities are deliveries. Pr 22:3 They do social distancing and wear mask and glasses where social distancing is not possible. Deep cleaning and sanitizing is a high priority. In the county I live in 12 out of 12 people that died from the virus were over 60 years of age. A large number of Bethelites are in this age group so I would say that it is only common sense to remain in quarantine.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/world/coronavirus-cases-rising-faster-intl/index.html

[AH173]

1 hour ago, M.J. said:

None of your reasonings would explain why Bethel branch in US is still on complete lockdown. No one in or out.

The usa branch/whq  have shared their reasoning on the matter through the covid-19 updates on jwb and numerous letters written to the circuit overseers and elders and they transmitted to local boe (especially the usa branch territories.) and the covid-19 guidelines you probably have received from your group overseer.

 

Obviously the branch, fds have higher standards of judging than that of Brother Ruben you quoted.

[BenJepthah]

1 hour ago, M.J. said:

None of your reasonings would explain why Bethel branch in US is still on complete lockdown. No one in or out.

Well I heard ( In my head just now and no place else ) the completely unsubstantiated rumor that all the members of the GB are A+ blood type, the same as Jesus ,  and that means they are susceptible to any virus coming from a Bat.

[M.J.]

18 minutes ago, BenJepthah said:

Well I heard ( In my head just now and no place else ) the completely unsubstantiated rumor that all the members of the GB are A+ blood type, the same as Jesus ,  and that means they are susceptible to any virus coming from a Bat.

I'm sure you didn't mean it this way, but it kind of sounds like you're mocking the GB for being scared of a bat virus.

[ChocoBro]

2 hours ago, M.J. said:

None of your reasonings would explain why Bethel branch in US is still on complete lockdown. No one in or out.

Actually, yes, it does. I even called the Branch concerning a donation and they said it is because of the high risk that the particularly old brothers are at. 

[BenJepthah]

1 hour ago, M.J. said:

I'm sure you didn't mean it this way, but it kind of sounds like you're mocking the GB for being scared of a bat virus.

No I’m mocking people who speculate or spread rumors ( none of whom are here). The real reason for the GB not leaving Bethel is their secret rings will be out of transmitting range due to the recent 5G tower upgrades in the area. You know , the ones that Bill Gates is installing?

Edited June 6, 2020 by BenJepthah

[BenJepthah]

48 minutes ago, ChocoBro said:

Actually, yes, it does. I even called the Branch concerning a donation and they said it is because of the high risk that the particularly old brothers are at. 

That actually would be the most sensible reason. All of the GB are in the target zone and even if it wasn’t lethal for them it IS very painful.

[My little flower]

It would be better not to discuss the GB in that light even if it sounds like a joke whether we heard it somewhere we resist bringing it up.

 

[Friends just call me Ross]

June 6th Pandemic Report:

Should top 7,000,000 sometime tomorrow.  

(See Brother Lynn's link: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/world/coronavirus-cases-rising-faster-intl/index.html)

 

 

 

 

Worldwide: 

101,243 New Cases today.  

(16,502 new cases just in the USA today )

53,590 people in Serious, Critical condition.  

 

[Old]

20 minutes ago, My little flower said:

It would be better not to discuss the GB in that light even if it sounds like a joke whether we heard it somewhere we resist bringing it up.

 

I am not nesessarily disagreeing with you but I would like to know your reasoning for he above statement.

[Loopy]

There have been 120 confirmed positive cases and 16 deaths linked to COVID-19 in the Upper Peninsula since the crisis began in mid-March. A new case was reported in Dickinson County on Saturday.

 

List of cases in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan USA by county:

 

1 Baraga 
2 Chippewa
17 in Delta County with 2 deaths,
6 in Dickinson County with 2 deaths,
5 in Gogebic County with 1 death,  
7 in Houghton
2 in Iron county
3 Luce County
8 in Mackinac County, 
57 in Marquette County with 11 deaths,
8 in Menominee
4 in Schoolcraft County,
 

 

 

https://www.radioresultsnetwork.com/2020/06/06/181654/

 

From article...this is for the whole state of Michigan:   
 

The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services reported Saturday afternoon that the state’s number of coronavirus cases increased by 224 new cases, and there were 36 new deaths since Friday.

 

Michigan now has 58,749 confirmed positive cases and 5,652 COVID-19 deaths.

[Ahuvah]

New Zealand as at today, has only 1 active case of covid19. That person of course is in quarantine.

Sounds like we are headed to level 1 - which is normal life - no social distancing only our borders will be closed to most traffic and those who do come through will be quaratined for two weeks. Still don't think we are headed out witnessing or to the Kingdom Hall ... I think we fall in line with what the society says concernng the worldwide brotherhood. Will be interesting to see what happens there.

[AH173]

15 minutes ago, Stormswift said:

Still don't think we are headed out witnessing or to the Kingdom Hall ... I think we fall in line with what the society says concernng the worldwide brotherhood. Will be interesting to see what happens there.

You all may be the first to meet publicly and have public ministry in the world. 

 

Anticipating any positive news!