The Mysterious Coronavirus Spreading Worldwide

[cme]

31 minutes ago, JennyM said:

I live in Philippines. We received letter from the branch to be careful. Use mask and alcohol so at khall there's once centralized alcohol where its accessible to everyone. hmmm.. maybe this gonna really spread too in my country wherein healthcare system is weak....and.. hmmmm... This year could be our last memorial. 

 

So  maybe hugging and kissing would be prohibite there soon while you're doing the project  to start in 2022 (in the new world) ...  😀

Jenny, I so much pray for Jehovah's Kingdom to come soon.  I'm sure alot of friends feel like I do.  Just because we don't have dire situations like in other parts of the world I really hurt to hear about my friends around the world suffering.  Ex: Russia, the torture and beatings the friends that are incarcerated are receiving.  I couldn't read the whole thing. I broke into tears and needed to go to bed and sleep.  I suffer from panic attacks and acute anxiety.  So, news like this bothers me, gets me angry and I feel hopeless and helpless.  These are our brothers!  There is so much violence out here as well.  I have never seen anything like this before.  Within the last 10 years violence has escalated to a mind numbing degree.  I pray for all my friends around the world.  May Jehovah have mercy on all of us and remember that we are yet here waiting.

[BenJepthah]

On 2/14/2020 at 10:49 AM, Lee49 said:

" The company has called on individuals between the ages of 18 and 60 who have been cured to donate their blood and save the lives of others afflicted by the disease."

  How many will die from this form of treatment or will lead to many other infections, once again we are protected from mans medicine that promises a "temporary healing"!

Although I agree with your conclusion. I disagree with your premise. Now I am not a lab technician so this is an oversimplification but: The blood donations in this incidence will not be for transfusion. They will be to identify a specific immune globulin. ( that is a blood fraction ) used to develope the eventual vaccine. Just as is often done with all vaccines.

[BenJepthah]

On aerosolization of this virus.     

    As it has been determined that this virus can dwell in the intestinal tract of victims and be present even when the patient is not symptomatic. It follows that it can be shed in stool.   Like norovirus .  With flush toilets it is common that stool is aerosolized . This spreadingbthe virus all over surrounding surfaces.  A particular concern in public bathrooms. 

     

[Todd komaniak]

They're really having a hard time with this one so when they do swab a patient's mouth they found the presence of the virus but then they would swab the other end and nothing then they would swab there mouth again nothing there but swab the other end and it's present so they're really got their hands full with this virus

[Lee49]

2 hours ago, BenJepthah said:

Although I agree with your conclusion. I disagree with your premise. Now I am not a lab technician so this is an oversimplification but: The blood donations in this incidence will not be for transfusion. They will be to identify a specific immune globulin. ( that is a blood fraction ) used to develope the eventual vaccine. Just as is often done with all vaccines.

https://www.livescience.com/blood-plasma-cured-patients.html

 

"I am glad to learn that under compassionate circumstances plasma from survivors is being tested," said Carol Shoshkes Reiss, a professor of biology and neural science at New York University who was not a part of the research. However, they will need to control for possible effects of the treatment, Reiss told Live Science in an email.

 

 "Under the Food and Drug Administration's "compassionate use" guidelines, experimental drugs can be given to people outside of clinical trials, typically in emergency situations. Though the FDA doesn't play a role in drug approval in China, a similar principle was likely at play; In this case, the people who were given the plasma were "critically ill," according to the Times."

Not everyone is convinced the rush to use blood plasma in patients makes sense.

[Lee49]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-hospital/chinese-doctors-using-plasma-therapy-on-coronavirus-who-says-very-valid-approach-idUSKBN20B1M6

 

More on plasma research  -   "what hyperimmune globulin does is it concentrates the antibodies in a recovered patient. You are essentially giving the new victim’s immune system a boost of antibodies to hopefully get them through the very difficult phase."

 

“So it must be given at the right time, because it mops up the virus in the system, and it just gives the new patient’s immune system a vital push at the time it needs it. But it has to be carefully timed and it’s not always successful.”

 

 

[Old]

Coronavirus now has a foothold in Northern California.

https://krcrtv.com/north-coast-news/eureka-local-news/first-case-of-novel-coronavirus-confirmed-in-humboldt-county

It is a big county That is where Miss Bea lives. I have many relatives and friends still there. So far there is no announcment on the town involved.

It is only a matter of time before we are all confronted with covid-19.

Edited February 21, 2020 by Old

[Ahuvah]

Confronted though with knowledge and a lot of time to prepare, which those poor people in China didn't really have.

Also many of us don't live in over crowded apartment buildings which like the cruise liner becomes a breeding ground for the Sar-2-Cov aka Covid-19 virus and disease.

 

I've been thinking on this, if in the Western Countries, we have to be quaranteened, many of us have sections we can walk or exercise in and good places to sit in the sun and receive natural Vit D. I don't think most places will be like China. 

 

Oh ... since Thailand and Australia has the presence of the virus in their countries amid their hottest season, not sure the theory about it being killed in heat is a secure one. Their theory on it dying in hot temperatures is that we aren't all huddled together sharing aircons, when in fact, in the full heat of Summer as in NZ/Australia we are in fact, huddled together using aircon because it's too hot outside. 

So maybe there will be a surge of this in our flu season, maybe not, but just because temperatures becomes warmer I don't think it's a guarantee that the virus to slow too much. There are signs it's slowing down in China, but not sure what to believe here. Hope so at least. 

Did hear also there seems to be a second wave of seasonal flu in USA ... you guys certainly don't need the complication of an additional virus especially one that is new on the scene and it's spread/effect is not yet known completely. All the best to everyone.

[Miss Bea]

19 hours ago, BenJepthah said:

On aerosolization of this virus.     

    As it has been determined that this virus can dwell in the intestinal tract of victims and be present even when the patient is not symptomatic. It follows that it can be shed in stool.   Like norovirus .  With flush toilets it is common that stool is aerosolized . This spreadingbthe virus all over surrounding surfaces.  A particular concern in public bathrooms. 

     

This is scary. And,  (OT) why that lis is shut in the bathroom. From what I have read, the tiny spray goes a good ten feet. And we have toothbrushes in there. 
And, don’t get me started on those air hand dryers!

Oh, oops. Sorry. Me and my tangents.

We have a case of that stuff here in Humboldt county, I found out from one of our family members, here. (Thanks, Jerry!) They wont tell us where they live. When they went to China, and how long ago. Just they are being, “self isolated”. I sort of think in the hospital from the news. 
This is upsetting, and, in reality, a surprise. We are rural. And, I just wonder how long they were running around the area, unsystematic.

And, off to town today. 
I have an elderberry concoction I was going to take if I started to get sick. I’m taking some before we leave!.

( I have no idea if it would help, but it’s to strenuous immune system)

Edited February 21, 2020 by Miss Bea
Mentally hysterical😎

[Miss Bea]

This area is not, um, progressive, medically. Apparently, maybe six weeks ago, this was here. So....

Oh, and they are isolated, at home. Whatever that means.

And, if you want to get the grimy details, head for, “Lostcoast Outpost”. It’s a local online news thing. 

Edited February 21, 2020 by Miss Bea
Um, I repeat!

[My little flower]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/21/world/asia/south-korea-coronavirus-shincheonji.html

Shadowy Church Is at Center of Coronavirus Outbreak in South Korea.
 

[Lee49]

There's still a 'fighting chance' to contain coronavirus but time is running out, world health leader says

Doug Stanglin

USA TODAY - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/02/21/coronavirus-who-contain-outbreak-iran-deaths-south-korea-cases/4829278002/

 

"The world community, he said, has a "fighting chance" to contain the spread of the virus, but we "must not look back and regret that we failed to take advantage of the window of opportunity that we have now."

 

[SUNRAY]

3 hours ago, Miss Bea said:

have no idea if it would help,

Hi Bea..the Flu in our area is very contageous this year..Elders went to their school..many got sick shortly after returning. Snowbirds visited and coughed terrible deep coughs at several meetings..NO HANKIE!!!.more got sick! If we can only obey Bible principles, many of our elderly would not have gotten sick!..4 at home now with Pneumonia! Some don't even know you can catch the flu from other's coughs and sneezes..one Elder who has advanced stage cancer asked me at the meeting last night if you can catch pneumonia from visiting someone with it!! We have anti-viral masks, and I keep one in my pocket while shopping..(and at KH)..I put it on if I hear someone coughing..we really need protection, Bea..you might consider it..keep safe..praying for the friends there and in the other countries!

[runner92]

I have to admit I’m very scared. Plus, there’s nothing really we can do other than wash our hands. But I work with the public. I have to exchange money with them and everything. I wonder how this will effect our ministry if this gets really crazy worldwide like they are saying it might. 

[Lee49]

I'm surprised lately at how many answer the door just to tell us " I have the flu", OK, bye!............................

 

[Tia]

1 hour ago, Lee49 said:

I'm surprised lately at how many answer the door just to tell us " I have the flu", OK, bye!............................

 

Yes - I have also notice ones coming to the door - saying they are not feeling well!  

I take a polite two step back up! - " take care " one time a sister said "can I get you anything?"

[JennyM]

5 hours ago, Lee49 said:

I'm surprised lately at how many answer the door just to tell us " I have the flu", OK, bye!............................

 

then cart witnessing is better in these times. 

[Miss Bea]

I try to remember. Keep thy hands away from mucous membranes!!!

[Hope]

This is worth a watch 

 

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=219261912539030&id=5550296508

[SUNRAY]

Wow!

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/italy-coronavirus-outbreak:-14-towns-now-under-lockdown,-infected-cases-now:-22,-dead-1

[Nirex]

8 hours ago, TiaCyre said:

Yes - I have also notice ones coming to the door - saying they are not feeling well!  

I take a polite two step back up! - " take care " one time a sister said "can I get you anything?"

Reminds me of the time when I was with my bible study teacher i service and the lady told us she had lice AFTER the 10 minute conversation. We were panic itching all the way home.

[Dustparticle]

 

 Now I'm hearing that it might be a pandemic.

[runner92]

3 hours ago, Dustparticle said:

 

 Now I'm hearing that it might be a pandemic.

It already was declared one weeks ago since it spread to other countries. 

[BenJepthah]

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Don’t buy China’s story: The coronavirus may have leaked from a lab.

   This from the New York Post sites a directive of the Chinese Government which is pointed directly at lab safety at the only institute handling this virus in China.  Right at the epicenter. 

Xi didn’t actually admit that the coronavirus now devastating large swathes of China had escaped from one of the country’s bioresearch labs. But the very next day, evidence emerged suggesting that this is exactly what happened, as the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology released a new directive entitled: “Instructions on strengthening biosecurity management in microbiology labs that handle advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus.”

Read that again. It sure sounds like China has a problem keeping dangerous pathogens in test tubes where they belong, doesn’t it? And just how many “microbiology labs” are there in China that handle “advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus”?

Edited February 22, 2020 by BenJepthah

[Allabord4Jah]

Today was my field group's hall cleaning.  We did the top to the basement, disinfected every piece of furniture we have, we even had the doors open to air out the hall.  Washed the floors (we have ceramic tiles in hallway and in bathrooms) down with heavy distinctive soap.  And redid the floor to mop up the sticky part of it.  The whole hall smelled fresh and clean!  Afterwards, we all washed our hands and were careful not touch anything we cleaned. When leaving someone held the main door open and we left.  The brother locked the hall up.

 

You know, a few weeks ago, I posted a story in this forum that the city of Wuhan/China, has a biochemical company in it's mist.  Who is to say whether or not someone there accidentally or intentionally let this virus get out.  Makes me wonder when I see pictures of the CCP, and the military just wearing masks, and no other protection.   So does the President of China and his cabinet, along with the military and their family members, perhaps they got a shot of some kind that prevents this virus from eventually killing them down the road.   The people in the city of Wuhan, knew that a chemical company is there, they never paid it much attention, they trust their leaders, who's to say the people of Wuhan, have become the testing ground for this virus.  This virus could have been released earlier, and it started to mutate in December, and now it's worldwide!

 

Maybe from now on, since we are close to the end of Satan's ruler ship, it might not be a bad idea to wear a mask at work, in service, going to the store (food or just other things), wash the hands, have (unscented) hand lotions so your hands do not get overly dried and crack.  Just take precautions. Like our brother's did when the Ebola, hit some of the African country's.  None of them got the Ebola, and survived!  One way or the other, those of us who have Jehovah, will make it into the paradise if this hits any of us.  Whether we survive or we fall asleep in death, we are sure citizens of the Kingdom, paradise.  There will not be any more chemical plants, virus' of any kind, no more weeping, sorrow, despair, death Rev: 21:3, 4.