Covid-19 Vaccine Research, Development, Ingredients and Reactions

[Mykyl]

Had the astrazenica vaccine on Friday. Felt a bit under the weather yesterday but mostly fine today. Sore arm where I was injected. Noone I know who has had this particular vaccine has had anything untoward happen.

A few have felt that they had flu like symptoms and stay in bed for a couple of days then it settles to normal.

Only change now is if you have a headache for 4 or more days immediately after the vaccine then you should seek medical attention. My head is woolly on day 2. Thats it.

[Shawnster]

9 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

Even though they are rare and isolated cases...Somewhat, I am concerned and cannot shake off that feeling. 

Is this any different than the number of people killed in an auto accident or plane crash? 

 

Or the number of people killed by coronavirus? 

 

I'd be concerned if there were large percentages of people dying from the vaccine.  But the results show that percentage is really minute.  People die in car accidents too, but that percentage is so small that we feel safe behind the wheel. 

[New World Explorer]

53 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Is this any different than the number of people killed in an auto accident or plane crash? 

 

Or the number of people killed by coronavirus? 

 

I'd be concerned if there were large percentages of people dying from the vaccine.  But the results show that percentage is really minute.  People die in car accidents too, but that percentage is so small that we feel safe behind the wheel. 

Yes I understand, still feel uneasy about it. (I am not against vaccines btw) 

Car accident happens unplanned, unforeseen....here is a choice that a person needs to make. 
Let’s say I have convinced my wife to take it, and she develops blood clot and dies as a result.... hmmm. Like I said I am not against vaccines but simply have uneasy feeling especially when it comes to Oxford vaccine. Perhaps my tension will pass, or perhaps I will simply refuse this particular vaccine ...don’t know yet ...still too early to say. (Come back on this in 6 months, will know better then) 
 

[Wren]

I was off work for a few weeks after catching an upper respiratory tract virus( It was so bad I called it a Clayton's COVID, the COVID you have when you're not having COVID) . When I returned to work I was given a document to sign either giving consent or refusing to have the vaccine. Because the memory of being really ill was so fresh, I didn't think twice about accepting the offer of getting the vaccine. It's easy to forget that feeling of an acute illness, when it's been a while since being ill. I'm kind of glad that I was reminded of my own mortality.

[califlorican]

I was looking at the VAERS data, because I’ve heard many people around me mention it. While I think a lot of symptoms listed in VAERS are common and likely to occur after a vaccination, like fever or chills, things like this are why there’s a disclaimer that the data is unverified. Below are some symptoms reported:

 

9 allergy to plants

1 amputation stump pain

16 animal bites/scratches

157 arthropod bites/stings

1 bed bug infestation

8 second degree burns 

1 circumcision

13 cochlear implants

2 Gulf War syndrome

7 gun shot wounds

Obviously these aren’t things that could be caused by a vaccine. A lot of things are reported after vaccination, but it doesn’t mean they are all side effects caused by the vaccine. And I actually feel bad for the poor guy that got circumcised 🤭

[Golfguy74]

3 hours ago, califlorican said:

I was looking at the VAERS data, because I’ve heard many people around me mention it. While I think a lot of symptoms listed in VAERS are common and likely to occur after a vaccination, like fever or chills, things like this are why there’s a disclaimer that the data is unverified. Below are some symptoms reported:

 

9 allergy to plants

1 amputation stump pain

16 animal bites/scratches

157 arthropod bites/stings

1 bed bug infestation

8 second degree burns 

1 circumcision

13 cochlear implants

2 Gulf War syndrome

7 gun shot wounds

Obviously these aren’t things that could be caused by a vaccine. A lot of things are reported after vaccination, but it doesn’t mean they are all side effects caused by the vaccine. And I actually feel bad for the poor guy that got circumcised 🤭

you forgot one, one individual had a frontal lobotamy.

[Golfguy74]

After my vaccine, I had a choice a frontal lobotamy or a bottle in front of me. Which do you think I choose?

[rocket]

2nd Moderna jab today.  Bill Gates mico-chip firmly implanted so now as dementia sets in my wife will be able to track me.😂

No adverse reactions so far, not even a sore arm.

******

Edit

Four hours after the jab I developed a sore arm that lasted 24 hours. Now only a very slight brain fog remains. 

Edited March 27, 2021 by rocket

[Sequoia]

I had the Johnson and Johnson One Dose a little over an hour ago.  No reaction yet, we'll see.

1 minute ago, JW2017 said:

I had the Johnson and Johnson One Dose a little over an hour ago.  No reaction yet, we'll see.

It did hurt.

[Sequoia]

I don't know if I've mentioned it.  But my mom got the second dose of pfizer on Tuesday and did not get sick.

[califlorican]

Our second doses went well! I had a higher temp of 99.8 for a couple of hours the following day, as did my husband. We both felt quite tired and had a sore arm, which was expected. Otherwise we feel great and since both my parents are also vaccinated as of the end of March, I may soon be able to hug them for the first time in more than a year 🤗

[Mykyl]

Strange side effect I have had regarding my heart. My heart is back to a normal rate for me again. (56/58 resting whereas its been near 90 resting for months) First time its been normal for about 10 months.  Not complaining at all.

[Sequoia]

Update.  Again I had the one dose Johnson and Johnson Friday morning.  By late afternoon I was aching but the aching was gone as of this morning.  I'm glad for the Memorial.

 

My arm is still sore.

Edited March 27, 2021 by JW2017

[Sequoia]

My aunt and uncle had their second dose of pfizer Thursday and they feel fine.  

[pnutts]

Never heard any widely spread reports of other vaccines having blood clots but apparently the rate is higher for Pfizer than Astra.

Some have ( in the news ) have speculated that it is more about politics than medical.

Trying to force Astra UK to send/keep more shots for EU.

 

The joys of vaccine nationalism. 🤢

[The Outcast]

7 minutes ago, pnutts said:

Never heard any widely spread reports of other vaccines having blood clots but apparently the rate is higher for Pfizer than Astra.

Some have ( in the news ) have speculated that it is more about politics than medical.

Trying to force Astra UK to send/keep more shots for EU.

 

The joys of vaccine nationalism. 🤢

Here in the EU everyone in charge wants Astra, because Asra is extremely inexpensive.
Astra's bad reputation makes it a little harder for them, but the lack of vaccines means that every achievable dose is vaccinated. No bad intentions apparent.

[The Outcast]

Very nice newspaper article from Germany
"We can also get vaccinated"

 

Google translation:

Many half-truths - and also prejudices - are circulating about the attitude of Jehovah's Witnesses to medicine: For example, that the religious community rejects blood transfusions.

But what about vaccinations? In view of the discussion about compulsory vaccination, we asked a believing Jehovah's Witness and met with Alina Kanzler from the Freilassing community for a walk.

Hello Mrs. Kanzler, are Jehovah's Witnesses vaccinated?
Kanzler: Everyone can and may decide for themselves.

 

Indeed? You always hear that Jehovah's Witnesses have strict regulations regarding medical interventions - and that, for example, blood transfusions are not possible.
Kanzler: Decisions about medical therapy procedures are always a personal matter for Jehovah's Witnesses. Like every other citizen in Germany, everyone should deal personally and in advance with possible advantages and disadvantages of medical treatment and then make their own choice of therapy. And we are lucky here in Germany that there are trained medical staff who are on hand with well-founded specialist knowledge. Speaking of medical staff, I would like to take this opportunity to say thank you to the hospital and nursing home staff. You are doing really great things in this difficult time. Relieving them is also the reason why we continue to refrain from religious meetings.

 

What do you mean?
Kanzler: We have been holding church services since March 2020 and, despite the state easing in the meantime, only via video conference. Even our big congresses, which are usually always a highlight of the year, could take place this way. From our point of view, this is a contribution to avoiding sources of infection and to protecting our own and the lives of our fellow human beings as much as possible and ultimately relieving hospitals.

 

Usually Jehovah's Witnesses go door to door to proselytize people. You have not done this since the beginning of the pandemic.
Kanzler: Yes, but instead of just seeing restrictions, we are concentrating on the many possibilities that are offered to us thanks to the latest technology and a little creativity. On the one hand, we refer to our website www.jw.org, where we introduce ourselves. At the same time, we also want to reach people in an analog way. The members of the community, for example, wrote more letters and looked for creative ways to make the elderly particularly affected by the pandemic happy with loving gifts and self-painted pictures.

 

How Easter is celebrated is already being discussed. For you too, the so-called "Divine Service on the Death of Jesus" is the most important event of the year. How do you celebrate that in Freilassing under the given conditions?

Kanzler: We will also hold this in the form of a video conference on Saturday, March 27th at 7 p.m. via video conference. Anyone interested can take part by contacting us on 08654/67932.

[lovjahupepl]

I debated whether to share this.  Please look up "rare blood disorder after covid vaccine"

I looked it up after one of the friends we know was taken to hospital and found to have a low blood count.  Transfusion was suggested.  Now diagnosis with a rare blood disorder shortly after getting s h o t.  Not sure how long they will live. 😟 They look fine, acting normal.

Edited March 29, 2021 by lovjahupepl

[hatcheckgirl]

Here’s a link to this case

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/health/covid-vaccine-death.html

 

If this is directly connected to vaccinations, it is still incredibly rare. And as sad and as serious as this is, did you know that Covid actually has this same side effect in some rare cases? I didn’t. 
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7501509/)

 

From the NY Times article:

“The condition Dr. Michael developed, acute immune thrombocytopenia, occurs when the immune system attacks a patient’s own platelets, or attacks the cells in the bone marrow that makes platelets. Covid itself can cause the condition in some patients.

 

A long list of medicines, including quinine and certain antibiotics, can also cause the disorder in some people. Dr. Spivak described the reactions as “idiosyncratic,” meaning they strike certain individuals without rhyme or reason, possibly based on unknown genetic traits, and there is no way to predict if someone is susceptible.

 

“If you vaccinate enough people, things will happen,” he said.

Vaccines stimulate the immune system, and in theory could, in rare cases, cause it to mistakenly identify some of a patient’s own cells as enemy invaders that should be destroyed.”

 

Which is why we are rightly told to choose for ourselves our medical treatment, because of risks involved. As long as there is no blood in the product, scripturally we are free to make our own choices. It’s sad the friend was affected by this, I hope for their recovery.

[rocket]

https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/rare-blood-disorder-covid-vaccine-thrombocytopenia
 

Quote

 

A Small Number of People Developed This Rare Blood Disorder After Getting a COVID Vaccine

 

In early February, the New York Times broke news about problems a few patients experienced after vaccination. At the time, 36 reports of ITP had been submitted to the federal government's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), the Times reported. ITP is also the same condition that led to the death from brain hemorrhage of a Florida physician in January, according to news reports.

 

 

[lovjahupepl]

11 hours ago, hatcheckgirl said:

It’s sad the friend was affected by this, I hope for their recovery.

Prognosis given by dr is they may have a limited time (like weeks).  I'm praying they are wrong.

[Qapla]

Interesting article

 

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7013e3.htm?s_cid=mm7013e3_w&fbclid=IwAR0iUP2lwt28vrsk-CYZF9_qcSKrWMLWZuiEMHOTCrKeGXa9iT9AevFkZrs

Edited March 30, 2021 by Qapla

[New World Explorer]

AZ vaccine worries me a lot, Berlin hospital suspended vaccine due to cases developing blood clots and even death (young woman) 

Canada also suspended program of vaccinations with AZ. 
This is no longer dismissive discussion, AZ looks like risky vaccine, and nobody can give you assurance if you are not in minority category facing potential problems. (I am not anti vaccines, just worried) 

[New World Explorer]

German vaccine regulator records 31 cases of rare brain blood clot after people had AstraZeneca jab

Germany’s vaccine regulator has said it has recorded 31 cases of a rare blood clot in the brain, nine of which resulted in deaths, after people received a Covid vaccine from AstraZeneca.

The Paul Ehrlich Institute said it has now registered 31 cases of clots in the cerebral veins - known as sinus vein thrombosis, or CSVT - and that in 19 of these there was a deficiency of blood platelets or thrombocytepenia, Reuters reports.

In nine cases, the affected people died. With the exception of two cases, all reports concerned women between the ages of 20 and 63. The two men were 36 and 57 years old.

[New World Explorer]

She said most of the patients in Europe who developed a rare blood clot after vaccination with AstraZeneca were women under age 55, and the fatality rate among those who develop clots is as high as 40 per cent.

Dr Joss Reimer of Manitoba’s Vaccine Implementation Task Force said despite the finding that there was no increase risk of blood clots overall related to AstraZeneca in Europe, a rare but very serious side effect has been seen primarily in young women in Europe.

Reimer said the rare type of blood clot typically happens between four and 20 days after getting the shot and the symptoms can mirror a stroke or a heart attack.

“While we still believe the benefits for all ages outweigh the risks I’m not comfortable with probably,” Reimer said.

“This vaccine has had all the ups and downs,” said Dr Caroline Quach-Thanh, the chair of the National Advisory Committee on Immunisation, when asked if the latest news will lead to further vaccine hesitancy.

“It looks like a roller coaster.”

“I want to see more data coming out of Europe so I know exactly what this risk benefit analysis is.”https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/canada-suspends-use-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-for-people-under-the-age-of-55-after-concerns-it-may-be-linked-to-rare-blood-clots-c-2472922

Edited March 30, 2021 by New World Explorer