jw broadcast JW Broadcasting—December 2024

[futurepromise]

17 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

The tribulation started on 11/1/24? 

Wrong. Begins at 1:12:52

[futurepromise]

49 minutes ago, futurepromise said:

Sorry, the subject begins at 1:12:52

[Sofia]

17 hours ago, jwhess said:

wonder how much of our 'related' statements will need subtle (or not so subtle) changes, modifications, adjustments or clarification.  How about our pictures?  The scenes of UN troops destroying churches might survive but the chapters and the titles of the pictures might have to change.

That’s why this year Gog s attack shifted from one picture to the other which depicts Gog like United Nations security council or similar 

 

3 hours ago, Mike047 said:

We thought we saw Anthony Morris in the audience, during the AGM part I presentation. What do you think?

 

 

Forget it

its not brother Morris 

[TheKid23]

1 hour ago, Sofia said:

That’s why this year Gog s attack shifted from one picture to the other which depicts Gog like United Nations security council or similar 

 

Forget it

its not brother Morris 

Where’s that second image from? I can’t seem to find it in any of our publications….

[futurepromise]

How do we harmonize the cry for peace and security? In our publications the UN is known for wanting peace and security. At the time the nations turn over power to the UN, will people saying it is by the UN, peace will come? Only we are aware that 'one thought" starts the tribulation. We can preach what the reality is. Just a thought.

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2 hours ago, Tortuga said:

The tribulation started on 11/1/24? 

Or was it 1/11/24 (DownUnder speak)...?

[cheesychat]

5 minutes ago, futurepromise said:

How do we harmonize the cry for peace and security? In our publications the UN is known for wanting peace and security. At the time the nations turn over power to the UN, will people saying it is by the UN, peace will come? Only we are aware that 'one thought" starts the tribulation. We can preach what the reality is. Just a thought.

That was my exact thought. I'm sure we will have more information to come. As it all draws nearer, we get food at the proper time. I've always struggled a bit with the timing of peace and security. Hopefully we will get more clarity soon.

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7 hours ago, Abigail said:

Has the talk outline been updated already!!

No. The outline has not been updated since the AM. However, after I heard Bro Jackson explain the clarification in October, I made changes to my presentation.

Although I also added in comments about the '8th King' - which it appears I imagined - as is not present in the Dec Broadcast.

[Andrey]

16 minutes ago, TheKid23 said:

Where’s that second image from? I can’t seem to find it in any of our publications….

 

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=1102024196&par=20&srcid=share

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3 minutes ago, Andrey said:

 

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=1102024196&par=20&srcid=share

This link takes me to the 2024 RC program. No illustration matches UN depiction.

[Abigail]

3 minutes ago, ➕👇 ꓤꓱꓷꓠꓵ🎵Tone said:

This link takes me to the 2024 RC program. No illustration matches UN depiction.

 

It's in the release on that talk. 13:50.

Edited December 5 by Abigail

[Andrey]

14 minutes ago, Andrey said:

 

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=1102024196&par=20&srcid=share

 

Edited December 5 by Andrey

[Sofia]

30 minutes ago, TheKid23 said:

Where’s that second image from? I can’t seem to find it in any of our publications….

Second image is a print screen from the dramatic Bible reading Rev. 18 from this years convention 

3 minutes ago, Andrey said:

 

You are a treasure 😊

[Sofia]

18 minutes ago, ➕👇 ꓤꓱꓷꓠꓵ🎵Tone said:

also added in comments about the '8th King' - which it appears I imagined - as is not present in the Dec Broadcast.

Yep

one of things that I thought it was left to say.

looking forward for more! 😊🥰

don’t you all? 😁

[Sofia]

7 minutes ago, Andrey said:

 

It’s not called Gog

but we know that a coalition will attack God s people

and this year the picture of the planning of that attack was this one

it makes me wonder if soon Gog s identity will eventually be associated with UN

[Doug]

5 hours ago, Tortuga said:

I really enjoyed the final part of Brother Jacksons talk. 
So, what have we learned in our discussion?   Let’s remember the two things as a reminder. 
First of all, the remaining anointed ones will suddenly be taken to heaven while they are still very active. Matt 24:31
The second one, Jehovah will suddenly move the nations to give their political power to the United Nations.  Rev 17:12,13,17
So, what’s the takeaway? 

 

I'm glad you posted this excerpt from his talk.   I think it could result in some confusion  . .  

 

Jackson wasn't saying these two things will happen in that order.  He was just summarizing two things that we expect and can happen suddenly.

[LeolaRootStew]

2 minutes ago, Doug said:

 

I'm glad you posted this excerpt from his talk.   I think it could result in some confusion  . .  

 

Jackson wasn't saying these two things will happen in that order.  He was just summarizing two things that we expect and can happen suddenly.

 

Yeah, I wish they had put it in chronological order because it did give me pause.

[Tortuga]

I wish we had more information about how it affects our understanding of Jehovah's Day and the declaration of P&S.

[Dolce vita]

5 hours ago, futurepromise said:

How do we harmonize the cry for peace and security? In our publications the UN is known for wanting peace and security. At the time the nations turn over power to the UN, will people saying it is by the UN, peace will come? Only we are aware that 'one thought" starts the tribulation. We can preach what the reality is. Just a thought.

Clever!

[LeolaRootStew]

3 hours ago, Tortuga said:

I wish we had more information about how it affects our understanding of Jehovah's Day and the declaration of P&S.

Agree. P&S has to come before BtG is destroyed and that won't happen until the UN has power, so it seems logically:

UN empowered -> P&S -> BtG destroyed

 

What do you mean by "Jehovah's Day" specifically? When it starts?

[jwhess]

The discussion about the UN getting all power mentioned some possible global reason that shows it is the only way to establish some goal.  Maybe it is 'Peace & Security'.

 

It would seem, though, that getting rid of all religion would be a step in that direction.

Edited December 6 by jwhess

[ChrisC]

Re 17:12 “The ten horns that you saw mean ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings for one hour with the wild beast.

 

It what sense do the ten kings have authority as kings for one hour “with the wild beast” if they have given authority to the wild beast? Will the kings still be holding the reins/leash?

 

Do the ten horns specifically apply to this future “one hour”, ie. the wild beast is currently horn-less?

 

#confused

[jwhess]

1 hour ago, ChrisC said:

Re 17:12 “The ten horns that you saw mean ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings for one hour with the wild beast.

 

It what sense do the ten kings have authority as kings for one hour “with the wild beast” if they have given authority to the wild beast? Will the kings still be holding the reins/leash?

 

Do the ten horns specifically apply to this future “one hour”, ie. the wild beast is currently horn-less?

 

#confused

That is why we wait with great anticipation for more details in a coming Watchtower or book.

 

Remember the "ten kings" is a symbolic description of those people in parts of the world who never had a chance to be one of "seven world powers". But by supporting and empowering the UN, they get a measure of equality in power because they wear the "same uniform" as the world government.  It only lasts 'an hour'.

[Miss Bea]

The wonderful thing is is the fact we are being prepared for what is coming, right now.Jehovah will see to it that we have the information we need, when we need it. 
Soak up what you can, as our dear Father is paving the way for survival of his people. 
I’m tired. (Age) and excited at the same time. We have gotten so many blessings, (changes?) that if I think hard, I tend to be overwhelmed. 
And this is not the time to get overwhelmed. “Buckle up, Buttercup”. I tell mysełf. 

[Sofia]

6 hours ago, jwhess said:

possible global reason

There are 17 sustainable goals to be achieved before 2030 and it seems impossible for them to do so. 
that’s the reason the pact for a governance was settled last September 

Those 17 reasons may justify the need to hand over power to UN