DISCUSS COURT CASE HERE JW.org - Jehovah’s Witnesses Mobilize Global Response to Threat of Ban in Russia

[Daniela]

1 minute ago, Gregexplore said:

I don't think his is referring to our campaign letters 

Agree.  That's why I corrected my previous post. I was too excited

[Dages]

"Females" in the text is a mistranslation by Google, it's the lawyer name  Zhenkov

[UpstateKate]

16:10

Zhenkov asks whether the Ministry of Justice knows that materials that are considered extremist constitute 0.1% of the entire literature of Jehovah's Witnesses. The Ministry of Justice does not know this.

 

Our lawyer is on fire! Holy Spirit at work. 

[Araujo JW]

Just now, Daniela said:

Agree.  That's why I corrected my previous post. I was too excited

Refers to the letters that were sent from the branch to the congregations not to distribute publications considered extremists.

[Raven]

4:30 pm

The representative of the defendant Yuri Toporov is trying to find out what the Ministry of Justice puts into the concept of "the structural subdivision of the world organization of Jehovah's Witnesses". What is a "world organization"? Is this some sort of legal entity? The Ministry of Justice believes that no, it is a question of a certain canonical concept. What is a "structural unit"? Is this a legal concept? No, rather a canonical connection. The next question is: in what sense then does the Ministry of Justice use this term in relation to the LRO, saying that they are "structural subdivisions of the Management Center"? In canonical or legal? The representative of the Ministry of Justice believes that this is the same.

[Patinage]

I don't think Bro Carlos meant Bro Gury... I think he meant other posts that would duplicate Bro Guri's posts..

[hatcheckgirl]

Can we ask you Guri to be our scribe, officially for this great event?

(62 on here need it!)

[New World Explorer]

2 minutes ago, molnarj said:

Maybe it is best that one Person will copy the Information. Volunteers?

Guri please... 

[Guri]

16:10	Zhenkov asks whether the Ministry of Justice knows that materials that are considered extremist constitute 0.1% of the entire literature of Jehovah's Witnesses. The Ministry of Justice does not know this. Is it known to the Ministry of Justice that the Rostov Regional Court, which recognized 34 publications of Jehovah's Witnesses as extremist, at the same time refused to recognize the extremist dozens of others.
16:19	Zhenkov clarifies whether it is known to the Ministry of Justice that literature has not been imported to Russia for two years. The Ministry of Justice knows this. Then there is a natural question, why in 2017 the Ministry of Justice raised the issue of liquidation. The Ministry of Justice can not provide facts confirming that during the last 12 months the Management Center distributed "extremist" literature.
16:13	The Ministry of Justice informs that the date of entering materials into this list is not specified in the FEMC.
16:24	The judge asks the representative of the Ministry whether it is possible to file claims of the religious organization, as well as customs, for the fact that materials imported into the country that in the future will be considered extremist? How to know in advance what material will be included in the FEMC. The representative of the Ministry of Justice: no way, just contact the FSEM.
4:30 pm	The representative of the defendant Yuri Toporov is trying to find out what the Ministry of Justice puts into the concept of "the structural subdivision of the world organization of Jehovah's Witnesses". What is a "world organization"? Is this some sort of legal entity? The Ministry of Justice believes that no, it is about a certain canonical concept. What is a "structural unit"? Is this a legal concept? No, rather a canonical link. The next question is: in what sense then does the Ministry of Justice use this term in relation to the LRO, saying that they are "structural subdivisions of the Management Center"? In canonical or legal? The representative of the Ministry of Justice believes that this is the same.

any questions please ask.

[Tbs77]

Yes please resume posting ...  
o.. Carlos ... Carlos .. you shot our soldier in the foot ! LOL

[BibleSteve]

Pretty please Guri? you were so on the ball with it please continue

 

[mserskine]

https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/by-region/russia/vasiliy-kalin-statement-on-ban-of-jehovahs-witnesses/

[Superdonk]

Can brother Guri count his time - like giving a public talk?!? 

[Guri]

Just now, BibleSteve said:

Pretty please Guri? you were so on the ball with it please continue

 

I will try to continue although my computer is playing up little bit.

I did stop previously as I thought I should have stopped but brother Carlos made clear the misunderstanding. So I am back brothers.

[hatcheckgirl]

1 minute ago, Zacchaeus The Short said:

any questions please ask.

 

2 minutes ago, Zacchaeus The Short said:

Zhenkov

this is translating on Chrome browser as "little wife"!  Heehee, he is our lawyer, isn't he?

[sunshine]

I love our Lawyer, Jehovah is making him ask all the right questions.... still confused as to why he said  the case rests on the HQ [?] quote "financing  MPOs [congregations]" see 15"57

[Guri]

Just now, hatcheckgirl said:

 

this is translating on Chrome browser as "little wife"!  Heehee, he is our lawyer, isn't he?

Its a name (Surname).

[mserskine]

https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/russia/supreme-court-begins-case-against-jehovahs-witnesses/

[Friends just call me Ross]

4 minutes ago, Zacchaeus The Short said:

I will try to continue although my computer is playing up little bit.

I did stop previously as I thought I should have stopped but brother Carlos made clear the misunderstanding. So I am back brothers.

Woohoo!

[Old]

22 minutes ago, Zacchaeus The Short said:

I will stop copying the report using the Google translator.

 

Although here are the both links in case anyone like to use it:

 

https://jw-russia.org/pages/17040614-132.html#0406

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fjw-russia.org%2Fpages%2F17040614-132.html%230406&edit-text=&act=url

I would rather you keep it up. I understand Carlos point, but if many take your position to stop we will be left in a void. I agree with Carlos that posters read the thread to see if they are doubling up. I would rather too many posts than too few. 

[analynandmichael]

Please someone clarify in a simple language. Do we have the outcome yet?

Thanks friends

[Tortuga]

Just now, analynandmichael said:

Please someone clarify in a simple language. Do we have the outcome yet?

Thanks friends

No

[New World Explorer]

Guri .. you're the chairman here!

[hatcheckgirl]

Not yet Michael

[Cool Cat]

Our brothers are slowly dismantling the ministry of justices case. MakIng their lawyers acknowledge that they know no literature has been transported into the country in 2 years and there is no evidence that the centre of administration has distributed anything in the past 12 months. Brilliant! Soon there will be no case left.

 

The world can see the evidence is not there, let's just hope the judges do as well.