October 2019 Study Edition

[Tortuga]

Did anything special happen on March 26th 2019?

That was the 100th anniversary of the brothers being released from prison. 

It appears that date doesn't have any special significance....

[normadenardo]

15 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

Did anything special happen on March 26th 2019?

That was the 100th anniversary of the brothers being released from prison. 

It appears that date doesn't have any special significance....

My sister turned a year older. Does that count? 🤷‍♀️

[Jarred]

Not to hijack the thread but is this a Society instruction? I know ones in my kh listening on Skype aren't counted and it would be great to be able to add them on.

We use Live Kingdom Hall which provides a list with the name and the number of people watching/listening.

It automatically sends an email to MS and Elders with this count a half hour into the meeting.

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[Arumuga Raja]

I like to share one thing from

STUDY ARTICLE 41

Stay Faithful Through the “Great Tribulation”

Paragraph 17

 

 

 

Edited June 29, 2019 by Arumuga Raja

[Tortuga]

1 hour ago, Arumuga Raja said:

I like to share one thing from

STUDY ARTICLE 41

Stay Faithful Through the “Great Tribulation”

Paragraph 17

 

 

 

"Prospect". Not a guarantee but close enough...

[New World Explorer]

26 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

"Prospect". Not a guarantee but close enough...

Do you think that "prospect" here is linked to our faithfulness during GT or external factors

What did you glean from the Watchtower ...?

There is another interesting expression in the Watchtower ..

Edited June 29, 2019 by New World Explorer

[Hinata]

6 hours ago, Hugh O'D said:

Not to hijack the thread but is this a Society instruction? I know ones in my kh listening on Skype aren't counted and it would be great to be able to add them on.

Brother, yes, at least in SK, you are to also count all members who are taking the meetings via phones or live feeds. This is a written instruction that is said in the attendance report paper: If there are individuals who are listening to the meeting via phone or internet, do not forget to include them to the numbers.

[Thesauron]

Brother, yes, at least in SK, you are to also count all members who are taking the meetings via phones or live feeds. This is a written instruction that is said in the attendance report paper: If there are individuals who are listening to the meeting via phone or internet, do not forget to include them to the numbers.

This is correct. Anyone who attends the meeting via phone or over the internet should be counted. When someone who is in hospital or housebound is connected via stream.jw.org to a special live streamed event of ours, they are counted and considered present as well.

 

[On the huh]

It is a prospect.  Similar to Zeph 2:2, 3

"Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth,  Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness.  Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger. "

 

[halfspanishlee]

Am loving the discussions here so up building 😀am making plans to attend my meeting Sunday this has shook me to my core just what I needed will need courage to go there's a park near my hall bout 5 min's walk and there going to be a LGBT picnic thing there my meeting at 1pm so gonna be seeing them I will try not to puke😲

[Thesauron]

Am loving the discussions here so up building am making plans to attend my meeting Sunday this has shook me to my core just what I needed will need courage to go there's a park near my hall bout 5 min's walk and there going to be a LGBT picnic thing there my meeting at 1pm so gonna be seeing them I will try not to puke

I’m sure they won’t hurt you. Just walk past them. Or, give them a meeting invitation, perhaps. They’re your neighbours.

[Shawnster]

6 hours ago, Jonathan77 said:

It is a prospect.  Similar to Zeph 2:2, 3

"Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth,  Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness.  Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger. "

 

The probably means our salvation is dependent on our faithfulness, loyalty, and endurance. There is no guarantee. 

[jjsunray]

3 hours ago, halfspanishlee said:

Am loving the discussions here so up building 😀am making plans to attend my meeting Sunday this has shook me to my core just what I needed will need courage to go there's a park near my hall bout 5 min's walk and there going to be a LGBT picnic thing there my meeting at 1pm so gonna be seeing them I will try not to puke😲

Yes PLEASE go and go and go and never stop from here on out.  I too as well as others here suffer from anxiety some extreme and depression as well but Jehovah will help you please throw it on HIM and He WILL HELP you! He LOVES YOU!!! WE ALL DO!  So hang in there with us brother (bubby)! 

MUCH Christian love to you now and for eternity!

Oh and as to that park thing, SING TO JEHOVAH and look to the heavens! 

[Doug]

10 hours ago, New World Explorer said:

Do you think that "prospect" here is linked to our faithfulness during GT or external factors

 

Our faithfulness, not external factors. Absolutely, yes.

 

The GT is God's judgment against rebellious , incorrigible and unrepentant humans and angels.  There is no way a faithful slave of God will die during the GT as a result of God's judgment.  It has been speculated that some could suffer cardiac arrest and die under the strain. If so, that would come under Ec. 9:11 'time and unexpected events'.

 

Once the GT begins, we are no longer living in a wicked system of things under the CONTROL of the devil. At that point, Jesus will have taken control away from Satan and will fulfill all of Jehovah's promises to deliver us out of the hands of the devil.

 

The GT and Armageddon are one judgment, with Armageddon being the culmination of the GT.

 

To put it another way: When nations go to war, they know they will suffer casualties. They will lose a few , if not many. But, at the end they may come out victorious.

Not so with Jehovah. He won't 'lose a few' in his war. With the caveat that an individual could possibly due from a pre-existing health issue.

 

I believe we will be protected from enemies during the hard-hitting Hailstone Message and onward. But we must remain faithful all the way through.

[trottigy]

This was an interesting paragraph - as I have heard some say the preaching work is fulfilled / done:

 

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What can we say about the progress of the Kingdom-preaching work? Year by year, this work is moving ahead. For example, think about the increase in the number of Kingdom proclaimers worldwide during the last days. In 1914, there were 5,155 publishers in 43 lands. Today, there are some 8.5 million publishers in 240 lands! Even so, our work is not yet over. We must keep proclaiming God’s Kingdom as the only solution to all mankind’s problems.—Ps. 145:11-13.

Nope, our preaching "work is not yet over."

[New World Explorer]

6 hours ago, Doug said:

Our faithfulness, not external factors. Absolutely, yes.

 

The GT is God's judgment against rebellious , incorrigible and unrepentant humans and angels.  There is no way a faithful slave of God will die during the GT as a result of God's judgment.  It has been speculated that some could suffer cardiac arrest and die under the strain. If so, that would come under Ec. 9:11 'time and unexpected events'.

 

Once the GT begins, we are no longer living in a wicked system of things under the CONTROL of the devil. At that point, Jesus will have taken control away from Satan and will fulfill all of Jehovah's promises to deliver us out of the hands of the devil.

 

The GT and Armageddon are one judgment, with Armageddon being the culmination of the GT.

 

To put it another way: When nations go to war, they know they will suffer casualties. They will lose a few , if not many. But, at the end they may come out victorious.

Not so with Jehovah. He won't 'lose a few' in his war. With the caveat that an individual could possibly due from a pre-existing health issue.

 

I believe we will be protected from enemies during the hard-hitting Hailstone Message and onward. But we must remain faithful all the way through.

Yes, that’s the way I see it too. 

When I asked this question I simply wanted to see the view of others. 

This is one of the most encouraging study articles to take to heart. 

Jehovah lovingly “whispered to us... do not be afraid, when I act, just follow lifesaving instructions, take my hand and let’s go through this together” 

[tekmantwo]

6 hours ago, trottigy said:

This was an interesting paragraph - as I have heard some say the preaching work is fulfilled / done:

 

Nope, our preaching "work is not yet over."

I recall that in Brother Loesch talk, in 2008, 'What The Near Future Holds' that he stated that, in the GB view, Matt 24:14 has been fulfilled. He made that statement on 2 different occasions while delivering this talk....

 

Having said that, he did not say to stop. We continue on, as commanded..

 

There is a military phrase, UNODIR, Unless Otherwise Directed, that accurately describes our current position...

 

Keep preaching Gods Kingdom until told to stop...

[Tortuga]

7 minutes ago, tekmantwo said:

I recall that in Brother Loesch talk, in 2008, 'What The Near Future Holds' that he stated that, in the GB view, Matt 24:14 has been fulfilled. He made that statement on 2 different occasions while delivering this talk....

I think it was in an 86 WT that said that Matt 24:14 was fulfilled as far as reaching the entire earth. So that part is done, however, now that we are there, the preaching continues until we are told to stop.

[tekmantwo]

3 minutes ago, Tortuga said:

I think it was in an 86 WT that said that Matt 24:14 was fulfilled as far as reaching the entire earth. So that part is done, however, now that we are there, the preaching continues until we are told to stop.

That is a pretty important distinction... thanks!

[Tortuga]

1 minute ago, tekmantwo said:

That is a pretty important distinction... thanks!

Now I have to find it. 

[ChrisC]

I heard that recording (I assume*) some years ago and shared my excitement with a sister.

She replied something like ‘No! No! My daughter has to come back!’

 

It changed my perspective, especially now we also have family members no longer walking with Jehovah.

 

(*I can’t remember the speaker. I have the mp3 somewhere but haven’t touched it for years.)

[Bluebell]

w95 9/1 pp. 13-18

 

“This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:14; Mark 13:10) Has this prophecy been fulfilled? Indeed, it has................................................ Matthew 24:14 continues to be fulfilled in a large way.

 

 

I hope this helps...... so don't give up...yet...

Edited June 30, 2019 by Bluebell

[halfspanishlee]

Good news people I made the meeting  and I loved it

[Jothob]

2 minutes ago, halfspanishlee said:

Good news people I made the meeting  and I loved it

Big WELL DONE brother! Jehovah must be smiling at the effort you put in to get there....🤗 

[Cushi]

On 6/29/2019 at 10:11 AM, Doug said:

I believe we will be protected from enemies during the hard-hitting Hailstone Message and onward. But we must remain faithful all the way through.

It would makes sense that Jehovah would protect us during the hailstone message since it would be impossible to get it done with so many people viciously attacking us. I hope this ends up being the case.

1 hour ago, Bluebell said:

w95 9/1 pp. 13-18

 

“This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:14; Mark 13:10) Has this prophecy been fulfilled? Indeed, it has................................................ Matthew 24:14 continues to be fulfilled in a large way.

 

 

I hope this helps...... so don't give up...yet...

I’ve always wondered how that could be when there’s still places we haven’t reached yet. I know we won’t “complete the circuit” before the end comes but that has always seemed like a tough one to say.