October 2019 Study Edition

[Frogslegs]

22 hours ago, Bek said:

When I saw this I immediately thought of my boy and do not really know what will happen to him.

My son also is not a lover of Jehovah. I have not speak to him for 2 years and it is so difficult. How do we cope without seeing our children. So hard. So much pain. 

[Shawnster]

19 hours ago, Mike said:

I appreciate his comment about the focus on teaching, but I’m pretty sure we must still be preaching. Otherwise we wouldn’t have articles like this: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/402018404


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10 hours ago, jwhess said:

There is s significant emphasis on Teaching.  Our video training for initial calls is teaching  ...intro...scripture....explanation...link to next scripture on next visit.

 

"Religion is a Snare and a Racket" is a preaching mode ...an announcement or proclamation.

Mike, sounds like you understand completely. Like John here and others have said, since the time left is reduced, it is more important thsn ever to teach the kingdom.  Don't waste time on unproductive studies.  Don't waste time on return visits that just like to talk but do not progress. Our time is better spent looking for those who are spiritually hungry. 

 

We need to focus on our ministry because time is rapidly running out.  We need to make our time count, not simply count our time. Stop hoping that maybe someday our return visit or Bible will "wake up" 

Edited July 2, 2019 by Shawnster

[Bek]

7 minutes ago, Frogslegs said:

My son also is not a lover of Jehovah. I have not speak to him for 2 years and it is so difficult. How do we cope without seeing our children. So hard. So much pain. 

Sorry to hear about your son. I hope he will come back 🙁

The situation with my son is different. He is still a small child. 

[Mykyl]

1 hour ago, Frogslegs said:

My son also is not a lover of Jehovah. I have not speak to him for 2 years and it is so difficult. How do we cope without seeing our children. So hard. So much pain. 

Im the same. My three oldest boys dont want to know. 

It sometimes makes me think of Adam. Who was more important to him. Jehovah or his wife.

I sometimes wondered if his thoughts about Eve, although he was perfect and of course the choice he made was totally inexcusable for him, were similar to my thoughts of my boys.

 

I have no idea but it is hard.

[GrumpysWife]

I have a son and his entire family, 4 children and their spouses and 2 great grandchildren, that left the truth and have chosen to go with apostates. My heart aches for them to return to Jehovah, but so far, nearly 4 yrs, there has been no change in their thinking. I haven't seen them or my grandchildren in that time. It was a blow to me and Grumpy but we choose the Truth over family. Where else could we go? So stand firm my dear friends. Soon...

[Dages]

2 hours ago, Jako said:

Interesting two pics. In one you see the friends looking forward with smiles and as if they are holding their hands out. The little girl is even clapping or excited.

 

 

On the Cover page, when Jesus and the 140000 come riding in, the same group of people is facing an army. 

 

Maybe it shows that while we are preparing for the GT, we are still inviting others, but then how Jehovah will protect during GT & Armageddon?

 

First time I notice the survivors are the same in both pictures.

[JennyM]

3 hours ago, Jako said:

Interesting two pics. In one you see the friends looking forward with smiles and as if they are holding their hands out. The little girl is even clapping or excited.

 

 

On the Cover page, when Jesus and the 140000 come riding in, the same group of people is facing an army. 

 

Maybe it shows that while we are preparing for the GT, we are still inviting others, but then how Jehovah will protect during GT & Armageddon?

 

The first picture is an assurance that a great crowd will survive the great tribulation. 

 

 

[Shawnster]

46 minutes ago, JennyM said:

The first picture is an assurance that a great crowd will survive the great tribulation. 

 

Or the first picture is in the new world and the second picture is a prequel.  

[JennyM]

11 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

Or the first picture is in the new world and the second picture is a prequel.  

No, it says there prepare now to survive the great tribulation.. its not  yet in the new world. 

[LindaViktoria]

If you press the footnote under the picture it says that they survived the great tribulation.

[Bluebell]

23 minutes ago, LindaViktoria said:

If you press the footnote under the picture it says that they survived the great tribulation.

PICTURE DESCRIPTION: A great crowd of Jehovah’s faithful worshippers will come out of the great tribulation, alive and happy!

 

That's why they are so happy!!!

[Thesauron]

Interesting two pics. In one you see the friends looking forward with smiles and as if they are holding their hands out. The little girl is even clapping or excited.
 

 
On the Cover page, when Jesus and the 140000 come riding in, the same group of people is facing an army. 
 
Maybe it shows that while we are preparing for the GT, we are still inviting others, but then how Jehovah will protect during GT & Armageddon?
 

Nice catch. It’s a great little detail.

[richietj77]

19 hours ago, Jf800 said:

Still no Spanish Edition

Enviado desde mi ZUK Z2131 mediante Tapatalk
 

It is.. curious, 🤔🤔🤔 since it is available in other languages... 🤔

[carlos]

13 hours ago, Mykyl said:

This message is to remind us that those on the outside need us to preach now as at that point it will be too late. The work is urgent because of this.

Once the GT starts they will not be able to change their minds at that point. That point is very clear.

Thanks, Mike. That's a good summary.

 

I think we might be looking at this from different viewpoints.  Nurzat was concerned for his son, who is still too young and who lives with his non-Christian mother.  What Nurzat can do to help him is quite limited. Reading that statement in The Watchtower, he was afraid his child doesn't have any chances to survive Armageddon since he's not baptized. I was explaining that the statement in that paragraph doesn't apply to young children, since the Bible says they are sanctified together with their believing parent. I'm not questioning the validity of that statement as a general rule. 

 

 

[carlos]

11 hours ago, Bek said:

The situation with my son is different. He is still a small child. 

Nurzat, I was thinking about your child today. We have already seen that a child (who is too young for dedication and baptism) of a Christian is considered holy by Jehovah and saved with his parent. 

 

But there's another reason not to lose hope. At 1 King 14:1-18 we learn of Jeroboam, one of the worst kings of Israel who promoted idolatry. Apparently his family was not much better than him, since Jehovah foretold that his whole family would be killed and none of them would be buried. Not being buried in those times suggested that such person would not have a resurrection. It happened as Jehovah had foretold, they all were killed and their corpses eaten by dogs. But Jeroboam had a young child named Abijah. Abijah was gravely sick and died as Jehovah had announced. But Jehovah said Abijah "alone of Jeroboam’s family will be laid in a grave, because he is the only one of the house of Jeroboam in whom Jehovah the God of Israel has found something good". Do you understand the point? All of Jeroboam's family died and probably won't resurrected. But Jehovah said Abijah will be resurrected because he "found something good" in that boy.

 

So besides a child of a Christian parent being holy, Jehovah will evaluate the hearts of the little ones too in case there's something in them that allows him to give them a chance.

[Bek]

Thanks, Carlos, for thinking of my boy. The example is an interesting one. 

 

If I understand it correctly, Jeroboam and his family became wicked and eventually turned apostate. Only Abijah had something good in his heart towards Jehovah.

 

We also need to bear in mind that Abijah was part of a dedicated and "baptised" nation. 

 

But our discussion still helped me to see things from a different angle. I am more hopeful now that I was a few days ago. 

[Omoyeme]

17 hours ago, GrumpysWife said:

So stand firm my dear friends. Soon...

 

Very soon Sister Vernalee, thank you for this.  Knowing too that I have relatives who have chosen to abandon the truth years ago and by their lifestyle, it's really difficult to know that they may not survive this system of things. Yet, they are of age and they know what Jehovah requires of them.  But love for Jehovah and Jesus is greater than my love for them, so it is my prayer that I remain faithful, endure under trial and "stand firm and see the salvation of Jehovah."

 

[Frogslegs]

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14 During the great tribulation, a change will take place regarding the brothers who take the lead on earth. At some point, all anointed ones who are still on earth will be gathered to heaven to share in the war of Armageddon. (Matt. 24:31; Rev. 2:26, 27) This means that the Governing Body will no longer  be with us on earth. However, the great crowd will remain organized. Capable brothers from among the other sheep will take the lead. We will need to show our loyalty by supporting these brothers and by following their God-given direction. Our survival will depend on it!

This paragraph excite me. To think our brothers, the one we see in the broadcasting and the conventions and many of us have meet before will be up there fighting for us. Will we know when they are take up? Are we allowed to know. Perhaps not. It perhaps tell us when the tribulation start. 

[Frogslegs]

And just a quickly. Why do Jesus have a cape. Does it mean something new?

[Jako]

The one thing the Bible doesn't mention is that Jesus is also THE superhero.

Proof: Think back a couple of Cong Bible Studies (Chapter 69). They wanted to throw Jesus with rocks in the temple. He moved so fast, the illustration shows them looking in a direction when he was already behind a pillar on the other side.

 

[DavidMc]

4 hours ago, Frogslegs said:

Why do Jesus have a cape.

Take a look at illustrations of roman centurions. They often wear capes as part of their uniform.

[JennyM]

Jesus is the real superman..

[Thesauron]

Jesus is the real superman..

He wasn’t a superman, though. He was just a man, fully and completely a perfect man. That was the whole point. But God made him perform some miracles to highlight his own intents to heal mankind through Christ.

[Dages]

Doesn't Kal'El mean Voice/Word of God in Hebrew?  

[jwhess]

Can any tell / see if the group of brothers in the one picture are the same group that are in the middle-background of the picture with Jesus and the angels?