Covid-19 Vaccine Research, Development, Ingredients and Reactions

[Shawnster]

Fully vaccinated people can skip Covid quarantines, CDC says

 

(CNN)People who have been fully vaccinated against coronavirus -- right now that means with two doses of either the Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna vaccine -- can skip quarantine if they are exposed to someone infected with the virus, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Wednesday.

 

That doesn't mean they should stop taking precautions, the CDC noted in updated guidance. It's just not necessary for them to quarantine.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/10/health/covid-vaccinated-quarantine-cdc-guidance/index.html

[BLEmom]

Arthritis drug giving results. 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-56024772

 

[SUNRAY]

On 2/11/2021 at 8:48 PM, BLEmom said:

Arthritis drug giving results. 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-56024772

 

Did anyone look up the side effects of the arthritis drug? 

[Loopy]

I don’t know which is worse...corona or  side effects from this drug 😳

 

https://www.drugs.com/mtm/tocilizumab.html

 

Warnings

Tocilizumab affects your immune system. You may get infections more easily, even serious or fatal infections. Call your doctor if you have a fever, chills, aches, tiredness, cough, skin sores, diarrhea, weight loss, or burning when you urinate.

Tocilizumab may also cause a perforation (a hole or tear) in your stomach or intestines. Tell your doctor if you have a fever and stomach pain with a change in your bowel habits.

Tocilizumab may also cause liver problems. Tell your doctor right away if you have right-sided stomach pain, vomiting, loss of appetite, tiredness, dark urine, clay-colored stools, or yellowing of your skin or eyes.

 

[hatcheckgirl]

Are you thinking about getting the flu jab and the coronavirus jab?  It's not recommended to do both at the same time.

 

ATAGI's (Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation) recommendation is to have the vaccines two weeks apart.

Dr Pearce said the 14-day wait time was a precaution and would allow health workers to identify which jab was the cause of any potential side effects.

"This is because we are being careful, not because we think there's a problem," he said.

 

Both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines need two doses to be effective, with the Pfizer option needing to be given 21 days apart and the AstraZeneca jab 4-12 weeks apart.  But the ATAGI says these jabs can be taken either side of the flu vaccine.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-02-16/covid-pfizer-astrazeneca-flu-vaccine-which-jab-first-australia/13156256

 

Further info from ATAGI

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/01/atagi-advice-on-influenza-and-covid-19-vaccines.pdf

First principles considerations
 There are no common active ingredients, including vaccine target antigens, contained within
any 2021 seasonal influenza vaccine and either BNT162b2 or ChAdOx1-S.
 BNT162b2 is not a live vaccine; ChAdOx1-S is a viral vaccine that cannot replicate in the
vaccine recipient.
 Although it is plausible that co-administration of an influenza vaccine with a COVID-19 vaccine
might reduce the immune response to either or both vaccines, there are no specific identified
factors to suggest that this is likely to occur to any clinically significant extent.
 Injection site reactions and general systemic adverse effects (such as fever, fatigue headache
and myalgia) are relatively common within several days of receiving either BNT162b2 or
ChAdOx1-S. Co-administration may make the attribution of potential adverse events following
immunisation more challenging. 

[WilliamChew]

I went for my Pfizer/BioNTech vaccination appointment but was rejected by the doctor due to my allergy to phenyll butazone, ketoprofen and aspirin which causes my face to swell after 6 hours.

 

I was prescribed the anti-inflammatory drugs phenyll butazone and ketoprofen due to a swelling of my foot years ago.

 

The aspirin was the ingredient in a cold remedy.

 

They said maybe later they will review and may vaccinate us.

[Mykyl]

My parents had the Pfizer vaccine a week or so ago. In common with all the ones in my local congregation my mum had no reaction but my dad had a sore arm and a slight headache. It was joked that it either hurts men worse or they complain more.  Ill know when  get mine. 😉

[hatcheckgirl]

4 hours ago, WilliamChew said:

I went for my Pfizer/BioNTech vaccination appointment but was rejected by the doctor due to my allergy to phenyll butazone, ketoprofen and aspirin which causes my face to swell after 6 hours.

 

I was prescribed the anti-inflammatory drugs phenyll butazone and ketoprofen due to a swelling of my foot years ago.

 

The aspirin was the ingredient in a cold remedy.

 

They said maybe later they will review and may vaccinate us.

Are you being offered any other vaccines in Singapore, like AstraZeneca or Johnson & Johnson etc?  I wonder if they are better suited?

[WilliamChew]

7 minutes ago, hatcheckgirl said:

Are you being offered any other vaccines in Singapore, like AstraZeneca or Johnson & Johnson etc?  I wonder if they are better suited?

Singapore only had the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines for the past weeks.

 

We only just received the Moderna vaccine.

 

We are not given a choice of vaccine to be vaccinated with.

[Lee49]

18 hours ago, Mykyl said:

It was joked that it either hurts men worse or they complain more.

My wife and I got the jab today ( Pfizer ) no real issues so far, in and out in 1/2 hour at a nearby hospital with about 40-50 people waiting, all with an appointment time, I could complain with a slight headache but I had it before I went in, the wife has ice on her arm only because she usually swells after any shot, she's just not taking any chances, we go back in 21 days for #2. 

 

[Lee49]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/02/19/covid-news-vaccine-shipments-covax-california-schools-joe-biden/4496634001/

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Pfizer says vaccine can be stored in normal freezer temperatures

Pfizer and its collaborator BioNTech on Friday said they were seeking an update to their emergency use authorization from the Food and Drug Administration that would allow their COVID-19 vaccine to be stored at normal freezer temperatures.

Currently, the vaccine is required to be stored between -112°F to -76°F and is shipped in a special thermal container full of dry ice to keep it at its ultra-cold temperatures. 

[Lee49]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2021/02/19/covid-vaccine-appointments-cvs-pharmacy-coronavirus/6787649002/

 

CVS to help underserved Americans schedule COVID-19 vaccine appointments

 

 CVS Health plans to contact Americans living in underserved communities to help them schedule COVID-19 vaccine appointments amid signs that white people are getting the free vaccine at higher rates than Black Americans.

The drugstore chain said Friday that it will call, email and text-message people living in what the federal government has deemed socially vulnerable areas to provide assistance and education in the vaccine process. 

[Lee49]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/19/israeli-study-finds-pfizer-vaccine-85-effective-after-first-shot

 

Israeli study finds Pfizer vaccine 85% effective after first shot

 A new study on healthcare workers in Israel has found that one shot of a two-dose vaccine produced by Pfizer-BioNTech is 85 percent effective, heightening the debate over the possibility of spacing out doses.

 

I'm not going back to get my 2nd ( just kidding ) 😉

[M.J.]

1 hour ago, Lee49 said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/02/19/covid-news-vaccine-shipments-covax-california-schools-joe-biden/4496634001/

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Pfizer says vaccine can be stored in normal freezer temperatures

Pfizer and its collaborator BioNTech on Friday said they were seeking an update to their emergency use authorization from the Food and Drug Administration that would allow their COVID-19 vaccine to be stored at normal freezer temperatures.

Currently, the vaccine is required to be stored between -112°F to -76°F and is shipped in a special thermal container full of dry ice to keep it at its ultra-cold temperatures. 

I don't get it. They changed the vaccine?

[Qapla]

No, they didn't change the vaccine. The need for the ultracold storage was to lengthen the time the vaccine would stay viable. If it is used in a timely manner it can remain viable at normal freezer temps. It was that way from the beginning but the FDA only certified it for long-term storage.

 

The original info was, "The vaccine is shipped in a special thermal container that can be used as temporary storage for up to 30 days" - but, apparently, in most cases, the vaccine is used in less than 2 weeks once it leaves Pfizer. For the shorter storage time, the extreme cold is not needed.

 

It is like when we go to the store. Frozen food must be kept in a freezer unit at the store and, when we get the frozen food home, we put it in the freezer if we plan to keep it for a while before using it. However, how many of us transport the frozen food from the store to our home in a freezer unit? Also, if we plan on using something the next day we may even put it in the refrigerator so it will thaw.

 

Since the vaccine is not taking that long to go from Pfizer to being injected - the ultracold storage seems superfluous.

 

That is all they are saying - not that the vaccine has changed.

 

[Shawnster]

28 minutes ago, Qapla said:

That is all they are saying - not that the vaccine has changed.

 

Just trying to change the printed regulations.  

[Lance]

Global warming....😉

[vern]

so i did a simple search genericly for why you would store stuff medically at very cold temperatures;  the info came up was that colder temperature is for longer storage times the colder it gets.

 

so why was it so cold in the first place?    .......  fill in the blanks....

 

now that its safer now at warmer temperatures?...... fill in the blanks...

[Lee49]

1 hour ago, vern said:

so why was it so cold in the first place?

To keep those critters from expanding!

 

[Lee49]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/vatican-covid-vaccine-mandatory-employees/

 

Vatican employees could lose their jobs for refusing COVID vaccine

 

  The Vatican has taken a hard line against employees who refuse to be vaccinated for COVID-19, warning they risk losing their jobs. 

According to a decree by Cardinal Giuseppe Bertello, whose role as President of the Pontifical Commission for Vatican City State makes him the territory's top administrator, employees who refuse the vaccine "without proven health reasons" face penalties that can include "the interruption of the work relationship." 

 

 

[hatcheckgirl]

Australia (finally) is rolling out its vaccination program today, starting with the Pfizer vaccine. Then later next month, we will have access to the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is being manufactured near Melbourne.

 

However, the AstraZeneca is not effective with the SA variant of the virus, so maybe it will not be the best outcome for Australia, especially if we want things to return to “normal” and borders opening.

 

“The international evidence is increasingly that the Pfizer vaccine prevents transmission. So that means with hotel workers and border workers being immunised, and hopefully their families too, and that's a really important part of the story, we are creating a ring of confidence around hotel borders. 
We've also got to institute with the Pfizer vaccine, not the Astra vaccine, ring vaccination around outbreaks, so that we are controlling any outbreaks there. And everybody else immunised with the Astra vaccine so that it turns it into the common cold. So we create a very safe situation.
The problem is, when do we open up to international travel and when do we relax on hotel quarantine? And with a country that's largely covered with the Astra vaccine, which is not very effective, some would argue if effective at all against the South African variant, certainly in terms of transmission, then it becomes a very nerve-racking decision to make. So that's why we've got to be planning in 2021 for a booster dose of vaccine resistant COVID-19.”

 

Dr Norman Swan 

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/coronacast/why-vaccination-is-only-the-end-of-the-beginning/13177012

[friendlyone]

I was given the Astra Zeneca vaccination, though now I think I might have preferred the Pfizer one.

 

No choice of course, though there are some trials going on in the UK to see if having one type, then a different one down the line, when deemed necessary, could actually be a good thing.

 

In the UK we are still having the second jab 3 months after the first one. It's supposed to still work ok, hopefully it will. At least over here they are ahead of schedule for the various age groups so are getting people vaccinated ahead of time.

 

 

[Lee49]

I got the Pfizer last Wednesday and scheduled for the 2nd one  3 weeks out, so the UK is spreading them out that far because of lack of availability ?

[Omoyeme]

On 11/20/2020 at 3:28 AM, Omoyeme said:

Mandatory covid vaccines...coming to a state near you.

 

https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2020/11/07/state-bar-passes-mandatory-covid-19-vaccination-recommendation

 

 

Indonesia, with a population of over 275,000,000 is the first country in the world to mandate forced covid-19 vaccinations with penalty for non-compliance. 

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-18/indonesia-to-punish-those-who-refuse-to-take-covid-19-vaccine

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-indonesia-vaccines-idUSL4N2KO1ZD

 

https://www.malaymail.com/news/world/2021/02/18/indonesia-capital-warns-of-big-fines-for-refusing-covid-19-vaccine/1950902

 

Quote

 

Indonesia is requiring those eligible for the Covid-19 vaccine to take the shots as the country seeks ways to quicken its inoculation program to curb Southeast Asia’s largest outbreak.

 

The government can punish those who refuse the vaccine by stopping or delaying social assistance programs and administrative services as well as impose fines, according to a revised presidential rule. The actual form of the sanctions are left to local governments to decide.

 

 

Which countries will soon follow suit?

Edited February 22, 2021 by Omoyeme

[friendlyone]

On 2/22/2021 at 1:51 PM, Lee49 said:

I got the Pfizer last Wednesday and scheduled for the 2nd one  3 weeks out, so the UK is spreading them out that far because of lack of availability ?

It could be down to availability, I don't know.

 

One thing I would say is that out of all the people who I know personally who have received the jab, only ONE has had the Pfizer version. Everyone else has been given the AstraZeneca. Most I know of don't seem to care which they get.

 

On the subject of vaccination certificates, there is going to be a consultation here in the UK about using them for organisations to check whether people should be allowed to fly, use restaurants, attend sports venues etc for the safety of everyone. I doubt many will complain if it is put into practice.