Russia invades Ukraine

[Hugh O'D]

8 hours ago, Shawnster said:

Could you imagine how different WWII would have been had we had this type of internet technology and video links then? 

Not much. We have all this technology but the politicians still lie, people join the armies and sickening atrocities take place but are routinely denied. Things are maybe exposed faster but it doesn't make any difference.

[Allabord4Jah]

I was watching another program on YT, and it disappeared and this came across my screen. It was on You Tube, Breaking News (that's what it said on the top of my page).  Here is what the speaker said (this is in reference to Russia invasion of Ukraine) in the U.N. national assembly

September 22, 2022 

 

 

[Sofia]

Interesting reading:

 

https://www.eeas.europa.eu/eeas/ukraine-press-remarks-high-representative-josep-borrell-after-his-address-un-security-council_en?s=51

 

As long as Ukraine War is ongoing there wont be any P&S announcement as obvious.

[Sofia]

13 minutes ago, Allabord4Jah said:

I was watching another program on YT, and it disappeared and this came across my screen. It was on You Tube, Breaking News (that's what it said on the top of my page).  Here is what the speaker said (this is in reference to Russia invasion of Ukraine) in the U.N. national assembly

September 22, 2022 

 

 

Transcript is here: https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/foreign-secretary-statement-to-the-un-security-council-on-ukraine

[hatcheckgirl]

Former Australian diplomat and Ukraine expert Dmitry Grozoubinski says potentially the most significant part of Putin's decree this week was that all current military service contracts would be extended indefinitely.
 

"I think Putin was told his entire professional army was going to quit at the end of their contracts rather than face winter huddling in trenches hunted by Ukrainian SOF and torched by HIMARS," Grozoubinski wrote on social media.

 

Indeed. Forcing soldiers to keep fighting, and forcing reservists to go to the front line, suggests an army in deep trouble.

But armies in deep trouble, and their isolated, deluded political commanders, can still commit war crimes. 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-23/putin-military-mobilisation-russia-army-deep-trouble-war-ukraine/101466066

[Doak]

9 minutes ago, hatcheckgirl said:

But armies in deep trouble, and their isolated, deluded political commanders, can still commit war crimes.

I can't understand the expression "war crimes". Isn't war itself a crime?

[carlos]

8 minutes ago, Doak said:

I can't understand the expression "war crimes". Isn't war itself a crime?

From Jehovah's viewpoint it is.

But war is supposed to be waged according to certain rules. For example, civilians should not be intentionally harmed or killed, prisoners should be treated humanely, and so on. When soldiers kill or rape civilians, or torture prisoners, those are considered war crimes and theoretically, those soldiers should face a military court and be severely punished. Of course, soldiers do that in all wars and they are very rarely punished.

[Tortuga]

12 minutes ago, Doak said:

I can't understand the expression "war crimes". Isn't war itself a crime?

Believe it or not there are rules for war. Google War Crimes or Rules of War.

[Dhanyel]

46 minutes ago, Sofia said:

Leitura interessante:

 

https://www.eeas.europa.eu/eeas/ukraine-press-remarks-high-representative-josep-borrell-after-his-address-un-security-council_en?s=51

 

Enquanto a Guerra da Ucrânia estiver em andamento, não haverá nenhum anúncio de P&S tão óbvio.

We don't know because it's propaganda and the world won't stop everything to have this false peace,the atrocities will continue 

[hatcheckgirl]

Referendums on whether to join Russia have started today in 4 Russian held provinces/areas.

 

“The ballot will run until Tuesday, and the result is expected to go in Moscow's favour.

 

That would give the Kremlin pretext to claim Ukraine's attempts to recapture occupied territories are an attack on Russia.

 

"Encroachment onto Russian territory is a crime which allows you to use all the forces of self defence," said former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev, in a post on Telegram.”

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-23/russian-controlled-regions-in-ukraine-prepare-for-referendum/101469920

[Sheep]

3 hours ago, hatcheckgirl said:

Referendums on whether to join Russia have started today in 4 Russian held provinces/areas.

 

“The ballot will run until Tuesday, and the result is expected to go in Moscow's favour.

 

That would give the Kremlin pretext to claim Ukraine's attempts to recapture occupied territories are an attack on Russia.

 

"Encroachment onto Russian territory is a crime which allows you to use all the forces of self defence," said former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev, in a post on Telegram.”

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-23/russian-controlled-regions-in-ukraine-prepare-for-referendum/101469920

Meanwhile, the west (in general) is saying they are "sham referenda."

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/23/europe/occupied-ukraine-referendum-russia-intl-hnk/index.html

 

https://www.euronews.com/2022/09/23/ukraine-war-occupied-eastern-regions-start-voting-in-sham-referenda

 

https://time.com/6215851/russia-ukraine-sham-referenda/

[Shawnster]

7 hours ago, hatcheckgirl said:

Referendums on whether to join Russia have started today in 4 Russian held provinces/areas.

 

“The ballot will run until Tuesday, and the result is expected to go in Moscow's favour.

 

3 hours ago, Sheep said:

Meanwhile, the west (in general) is saying they are "sham referenda."

What's the over/under on yes results? 

 

 

I'll go on record now with 98% in favor. 

[Sofia]

https://nypost.com/2022/09/23/putins-top-priest-kirill-tells-russians-not-to-fear-death/amp/

 

Edited September 23, 2022 by Sofia

[sully313]

1 hour ago, Sofia said:

https://nypost.com/2022/09/23/putins-top-priest-kirill-tells-russians-not-to-fear-death/amp/

 

Isnt that the same nonsense islamists say,except its for religion and not specifically a country, which putin considers extremism? I literally have no words, this is disgusting. Oh Jehovah

[Hugh O'D]

2 hours ago, Shawnster said:

 

What's the over/under on yes results? 

 

I'll go on record now with 98% in favor. 

I remember a report on an election in Iraq pre Second Gulf War the election officials even invited the foreign journalists at one polling booth to sign.

[Sofia]

2 hours ago, sully313 said:

Isnt that the same nonsense islamists say,except its for religion and not specifically a country, which putin considers extremism? I literally have no words, this is disgusting. Oh Jehovah

Kirill is the Russian Orthodox Church leader in Moscow 

a fake Christian Leader

Yes. Very disgusting 🤮 

Edited September 24, 2022 by Sofia

[felito]

I saw this video and I wonder if there is any brother or sister who can translate and verify if what is being said is what is written?

 

 

[Sheep]

41 minutes ago, felito said:

I saw this video and I wonder if there is any brother or sister who can translate and verify if what is being said is what is written?

 

I can see English subtitles when I play it. Can't you see those?

 

Anyway, it's disgusting!

 

[Dhanyel]

3 minutes ago, Sheep said:

Consigo ver legendas em inglês quando toco. Você não pode ver aqueles?

 

De qualquer forma, é nojento!

 

Maybe he asked if the subtitles are in accordance with Russian speech, I believe he is saying exactly what is in the English subtitles, but he needs someone who speaks Russian to confirm

[Doug]

It's reported that Finland has closed its border with Russia due to the conscripts fleeing .

[Sofia]

28 minutes ago, Doug said:

It's reported that Finland has closed its border with Russia due to the conscripts fleeing .

Now Europe has an issue that questions their democratic thinking

 

these men require political asylum 

will it be given? Democratic countries have that inshrined on its constitution 

or rejected?

finish are saying: “go home and fight Putin instead”

 

Keeping on the watch…🧐

[Tortuga]

2 hours ago, Sofia said:

Now Europe has an issue that questions their democratic thinking

 

these men require political asylum 

will it be given? Democratic countries have that inshrined on its constitution 

or rejected?

finish are saying: “go home and fight Putin instead”

 

Keeping on the watch…🧐

It will be interesting if the religious leaders tell the politicians they have a moral obligation to shelter these men.

[Doug]

On 9/23/2022 at 3:40 PM, sully313 said:

Isnt that the same nonsense islamists say,except its for religion and not specifically a country, 

Islam has upped the ante.  Eternal life in heavenly Paradise and 72 virgins.

[New World Explorer]

2 minutes ago, Doug said:

Islam has upped the ante.  Eternal life in heavenly Paradise and 72 virgins.

King Salomon had more on earth..no need to go to heaven 

They are getting bad deal with 72 LOL 

[Tortuga]

7 minutes ago, Doug said:

Islam has upped the ante.  Eternal life in heavenly Paradise and 72 virgins.

72 Virginians?