The Mysterious Coronavirus Spreading Worldwide

[Allabord4Jah]

1 hour ago, Friends just call me Ross said:

Ahhh...Dr. John Campbell remains a voice of reason in a wilderness of chaotic pandemic reporting:

 

 

Loved the Vitamin D3/D  Take it every single day.  Even when Sun is out.

[ChocoBro]

8 hours ago, Allabord4Jah said:

Loved the Vitamin D3/D  Take it every single day.  Even when Sun is out.

It's creepy that at the height of this pandemic, the German government is creating laws to essentially abolish the sale of all vitamin supplements. It's all about pushing big pharma agenda nowadays.

 

Bow down and worship the Staff of Asclepios, do not look at that silly old bronze snake on a staff... you know

[ChocoBro]

9 hours ago, Friends just call me Ross said:

 

 

Corona Movie

 

 

 

There are at least two documentaries being made about the many discrepancies found in Covid19 reporting, and the entire history of failure of all the politicians and scientists and their decisions along with the mistakes made in many hospitals in Italy and New York, including all the financial connections between these corrupt actors and big pharma and manufacturers of PPE, for example. I can only imagine this thing going one of two ways, an entire paradigm shift happening this year exposing a great deal of corruption in our system or that this continues to develop into a system of total control over the individual. We are already seeing some very frightening legal developments here in Germany when it comes to privacy, patient rights and many other freedoms. 

[ChocoBro]

13 hours ago, BenJepthah said:

COVID testing is really unrealizable. Everyone in healthcare knows it. If you test positive that’s accurate into the high 90’s but if negative it’s only about 50%. I personally had a patient who tested negative on admission. Who subsequently tested positive. To complicate this issue that patient was anemic and received a transfusion. From what I have found out the blood supply remains I tested. He may have received contaminated blood. He went from afebrile doing fine on room air to needing 5L if O2 and running a fever within just 4 hours. Either he came in with it or he received a huge viral load from the blood. 
    As to the video , fortunately most hospitals like my own quickly adopted single patient room standards with a high degree of sanitation measures. In some cases mistakes are made. Early on my unit was “ THE COVID UNIT” in my facility. Management ( well intended) made an error in adjusting how the floor was ventilated. The Nurses on my floor are frequently outspoken former military and from EMS backgrounds so we had no fear to speak up to the management and forced ( yes forced) a correction which may have made a big difference and prevented cross contamination. 
     Other hospitals , the nurses may fear for their jobs and be less vocal. The nurse in the video will probably be sewed or fired for her efforts although that was very brave.

    What else: the political gripe against the president about ventilators . NYC had more than enough ventilators on paper, although for some reason they claimed otherwise. What is more, it was soon discovered that the nature of the illness made ventilators of little value. Certain local laws which made it illegal to refuse infected patients into nursing homes contributed to the greatest loss of life. I suspect from now on no hospital in the US will have multiple patient rooms if at all possible. 

It makes you wonder with so much money at stake, and the fact that there are greedy people that put money ahead of lives, if it is so far-fetched to believe that Elmhurst tried to put as many people on intubation as they could to cash in on the extra money. 

 

It is weird because for many patients, there's gotta be simpler, less invasive ways of supplying the blood with oxygen, such as nasal cannula or some kind of simple extracorporeal oxygenator unit or oxygen saturated IV solution or something. It seems very obvious that the intubations are killing people wherever they are the preferred method of treatment and I'm not surprised, if it is true that the immune system is triggered to overreact to Covid19 pathogens, it isn't unlikely that shoving a cannula down someones throat is going to worsen that reaction. Not to mention the effect that all the associated medication may cause, sedatives etc.

Edited June 13, 2020 by ChocoBro

[hatcheckgirl]

I read about this regarding Japan, and now we here in Australia are also seeing the one benefit of the covid19 pandemic - lower flu cases.

 

In the first five months of 2019 — a particularly severe flu season — the national total of laboratory-confirmed influenza cases reached 74,176.

 

But Immunisation Coalition data shows the number of cases in 2020 had plummeted since coronavirus lockdowns were introduced — from 20,032 cases in the first three months, to 504 in April and May.

 

I hope flu numbers stay low so there can be at least one silver lining.  Low numbers are due to lockdowns, social distancing measures and increased hygiene practices, as well as higher flu immunisations this year.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-13/coronavirus-update-covid19-beijing-food-market-closed/12351336

[BenJepthah]

15 minutes ago, hatcheckgirl said:

I read about this regarding Japan, and now we here in Australia are also seeing the one benefit of the covid19 pandemic - lower flu cases.

 

In the first five months of 2019 — a particularly severe flu season — the national total of laboratory-confirmed influenza cases reached 74,176.

 

But Immunisation Coalition data shows the number of cases in 2020 had plummeted since coronavirus lockdowns were introduced — from 20,032 cases in the first three months, to 504 in April and May.

 

I hope flu numbers stay low so there can be at least one silver lining.  Low numbers are due to lockdowns, social distancing measures and increased hygiene practices, as well as higher flu immunisations this year.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-13/coronavirus-update-covid19-beijing-food-market-closed/12351336

The mask effect. There will be other effects discovered. Some positive some negative.

[hatcheckgirl]

20 minutes ago, BenJepthah said:

The mask effect.

Not here.  Hardly anyone wears them.  Its very optional and not really a factor in the lower flu cases.  Japan always had masks way before covid19, so masks were not a factor for them either.  They had a drop in the flu numbers because of extra hygiene and social distancing.  So, like I said, it's a silver lining.

[CHecker]

Just watched a PBS documentary on the 1918 pandemic,  had so very much in common with this one. Reported people wore cotton masks but it had little effect, just as now, IMO.

Hope you folks watch that show, I'm going to watch it again. 

[Shawnster]

I overheard a conversation between a group of clients at OfficeMax today.

 

Apparently Coronavirus is a hoax being perpetuated by the fascists in order to take over the country.  Most people think it's the socialists but it's really the fascists.  Everyone is getting sick because the 5G cell towers deplete your body of vitamin C and make you susceptible to getting sick.  If you just increase your intake of vitamin C you'll be fine.  Most people don't now anyone who has died from this anyway.  All the elderly in the nursing homes are being murdered and that's why the death rate is so high in nursing homes. 

[Tortuga]

6 minutes ago, Shawnster said:

I overheard a conversation between a group of clients at OfficeMax today.

 

Apparently Coronavirus is a hoax being perpetuated by the fascists in order to take over the country.  Most people think it's the socialists but it's really the fascists.  Everyone is getting sick because the 5G cell towers deplete your body of vitamin C and make you susceptible to getting sick.  If you just increase your intake of vitamin C you'll be fine.  Most people don't now anyone who has died from this anyway.  All the elderly in the nursing homes are being murdered and that's why the death rate is so high in nursing homes. 

I'm telling you, the coalition of bandana manufacturers are behind it all. That's why there was a "shortage" of masks...

[BenJepthah]

The mastermind behind this is ..

                   Pinky!! Bart!!

so Brain what shall we do tonight! 
           The same thing we do every night Pinky’ 

        TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!

[BenJepthah]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-beijing/beijing-district-in-wartime-emergency-after-virus-cluster-at-major-food-market-idUSKBN23K03V

 

at a food market again??? Stop eating bats and pangolins!!!

[hatcheckgirl]

2 hours ago, BenJepthah said:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-beijing/beijing-district-in-wartime-emergency-after-virus-cluster-at-major-food-market-idUSKBN23K03V

 

at a food market again??? Stop eating bats and pangolins!!!

Article says:

 

“The entire Xinfadi market was shut down at 3 a.m. on Saturday (1900 GMT on Friday), after two men working at a meat research centre who had recently visited the market were reported to have the virus. It was not immediately clear how they had been infected.”

 

So, they brought it to the market. The market was then the source of the other infections. 
 

Takeaway should be: stay away from crowded areas. Virus spreads easily in close contact. When shopping, don’t linger. Take precautions, wear a mask if that’s appropriate and wash hands etc. you know the drill. 

[BenJepthah]

47 minutes ago, hatcheckgirl said:

Article says:

 

“The entire Xinfadi market was shut down at 3 a.m. on Saturday (1900 GMT on Friday), after two men working at a meat research centre who had recently visited the market were reported to have the virus. It was not immediately clear how they had been infected.”

 

So, they brought it to the market. The market was then the source of the other infections. 
 

Takeaway should be: stay away from crowded areas. Virus spreads easily in close contact. When shopping, don’t linger. Take precautions, wear a mask if that’s appropriate and wash hands etc. you know the drill. 

Your last paragraph sounds very much like the direction we as Jehovah’s People have received.coincidence ? I think not.👍

[hatcheckgirl]

Just to reiterate the drop in flu numbers in Australia:

 

 

“It just tells us the value of physically distancing, good hand hygiene, avoiding mass gatherings [when sick], cough etiquette and being aware of all those other strategies to avoid the transmission of infectious diseases.
 
‘Maybe it’s not the way we want to spend our lives – not being able to attend concerts and the movies and gather in crowds – but it certainly shows that we can make a difference by at least implementing some of these strategies [in the longer term].“

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/physical-distancing-and-good-hand-hygiene-australi

 

If this is the case here, would be interesting to see in other countries too. Admittedly, Australia had the benefit of watching it unfold in the northern hemisphere and then aggressively putting into place pandemic solutions and we were not yet into winter flu season. This certainly is true:

Prov 22:3 The shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself, but the inexperienced keep right on going and suffer the consequences. 

 

Edited June 14, 2020 by hatcheckgirl

[GodlyDevotion]

Well, I don't know about anywhere else, but I don't know what's happening in Nigeria with regards to the coronavirus.

I would say the "statistics' lies are d**n lies," lol. The statistics tell about 15k cases and 407 deaths, with most of it in Lagos. Lagos? Lagos is more like a cramped Tokyo. A city with an estimated population of 21 million in a little over 1,000 sq km land mass.

 

The residents here in Lagos are not following government rules, sadly. People don't even wear masks anymore, public transport are being filled to the brim, and the usual nasty traffic continues as cars honk in the distance. 

 

What I am troubled with is the statistics: 82 deaths in Lagos. Wow, that's hard to believe for everybody. And besides, I have not heard or known, neither have I seen - be it social media or the news - anyone that has died. What's happening? 🤨

Edited June 15, 2020 by Bro Richard

[GodlyDevotion]

On 6/10/2020 at 11:21 PM, blacc said:

Oh well, I wish I could have said the same for my situation. Nada! No government grants, no compensation for all the months I've been off work, no nothing. I work in a private school and until school opens up, nothing. For all the months we've been closed, no salary. I mean, if I could have gotten even half of that grant the government gave you guys, it would have been a big help.

Have you spoken with your elders? They may be in the best position to help. 

[Hugh O'D]

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@Friends just call me Ross posted

I had to run some essential errands yesterday and, in the three stores I visited, 

none of the store clerks were wearing masks or practicing safe distancing.

 

Only one other customer I encountered was wearing a face mask.

On 6/11/2020 at 4:57 PM, Hugh O'D said:

re face masks, they're only beneficial if worn correctly. I tried for a while and I realized I was just too ... well ...dumb and clumsy to do it right. So I use frequent hand washing instead. There's a number of dangers with the face masks but frequent hand washing (and not coughing into the air) works.

Plus I've already had Covid19 anyway.

On 6/11/2020 at 5:16 PM, Bro Richard said:

The intent of the mask is to prevent you from spreading the virus. Washing your hands is to protect you from the people that don't wear masks.

 But I've already...

On 6/11/2020 at 7:11 PM, BenJepthah said:

People being selfish or ignorant.

 But I

 

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Faithful and Discreet Slave Announcements

...if you must leave your home, please continue applying the basic principles of health and safety, such as frequent handwashing, physical distancing, wearing a face covering,...(highlight mine)

 Ever get the feeling Jehovah is trying to tell you something? Ever get the feeling that even he's wondering does he need to rearrange the stars to spell out the message before you'll get it. Talked to a customer from the HSE (Health And Safety Executive), the bottom line is "Nobody Knows", but because of the different strains "Nobody Knows" if you could get infected again, and "Nobody Knows" if you could be an Asymatric Asymat Asymmmm a carrier with no symptoms and infect others so I've been wearing a mask at work since Friday (That's Friday 12-10, Saturday 1-10 and today Monday 9-6). My respect for those who keep those masks on all day has gone through the roof.

 

So Sister Ross and Brothers Richard and David, if you've ever wondered does anyone act on what you say, the answer is yes.

[Hugh O'D]

On 6/12/2020 at 2:56 AM, Bro Richard said:

Its interesting that the authorities are now broadcasting that anyone that doesn't listen to the warning is on their own, the rescue teams will not risk their lives to save them. I wonder if the authorities will or have reached that same point about masks. It seems that at some point the authorities will let them be victims of their own stupidity.  That's sad...

Two parts to that.

 

Firstly during the floods in Kerala, India in 2018 just before the flood waters hit the Society sent a message to all Brothers and Sisters in the areas about to be affected that they'd an hour to get to evacuation points (Kingdom Halls etc) where there were buses to get them out of the danger zone. Within about an hour after that the water level had gone from about the ankles to about the neck. One (couple, family, I forget which) delayed, another brother came to rescue them, he had to climb along a rope to get to them and help them out of their homes. If the rope had broken or he had slipped he'd have been dead, simple as. The Society afterwards referred to this case saying that Brothers and Sister simply must follow direction when told to evacuate because not only could they lose their own lives but they could also cause others to lose their lives. I can understand worldly authorities having to say, "If we send anyone in to get you the odds are they won't make it back out again, we're not throwing away their lives like that".

 

Secondly, re Covid19, the authorites won't be able to refuse to treat people who weren't' wearing masks because its simply impossible to tell who was or wasn't wearing a mask. But you could still reach a point of triage where decisions have to be made over who's allowed to die and who's treated. Hopefully it won't reach that point but you never know, that's why the Society is still urging caution.

[BenJepthah]

27 minutes ago, Hugh O'D said:

But you could still reach a point of triage where decisions have to be made over who's allowed to die and who's treated. Hopefully it won't reach that point but you never know, that's why the Society is still urging caution.

This in fact has happened in some lands already. There just comes a time in a mass causality situation in which someone is asked to make very hard decisions based upon available resources. 

[Hope]

Just stop testing! The 'rona will disappear!  😃

 

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/trump-if-covid-19-testing-stops-the-us-wont-have-coronavirus-cases-anymore/

[Hugh O'D]

21 minutes ago, Hope said:

Just stop testing! The 'rona will disappear!  😃

 

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/trump-if-covid-19-testing-stops-the-us-wont-have-coronavirus-cases-anymore/

Watched clip, I actually understand him for once, he's not saying Stop Testing, but I'm inclined to get political so 🤐🤐

[BenJepthah]

arlier in the day, Trump tweeted that testing made the United States “look bad.”

“Our testing is so much bigger and more advanced than any other country (we have done a great job on this!) that it shows more cases. Without testing, or weak testing, we would be showing almost no cases. Testing is a double-edged sword – Makes us look bad, but good to have!!!” he said.
 

            The thing speaks for itself.  It is also why some countries have very low reported cases and make themselves look like their healthcare systems work better.  It’s all an illusion.

Edited June 15, 2020 by BenJepthah

[Guri]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53061281?fbclid=IwAR1_E8-K96l4LumNxrYbApLGa1eIFXW29TwIlac9piwSbKb17wFe1EGkavA

 

Coronavirus: Dexamethasone proves first life-saving drug

A cheap and widely available drug can help save the lives of patients seriously ill with coronavirus.

The low-dose steroid treatment dexamethasone is a major breakthrough in the fight against the deadly virus, UK experts say.

[BenJepthah]

1 hour ago, Guri said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53061281?fbclid=IwAR1_E8-K96l4LumNxrYbApLGa1eIFXW29TwIlac9piwSbKb17wFe1EGkavA

 

Coronavirus: Dexamethasone proves first life-saving drug

A cheap and widely available drug can help save the lives of patients seriously ill with coronavirus.

The low-dose steroid treatment dexamethasone is a major breakthrough in the fight against the deadly virus, UK experts say.

That Makes perfect sense. Dex is typically administered IVP as an anti inflammatory in respiratory disease. .